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Post by nickpanther on Feb 23, 2022 13:11:39 GMT -6
Next year, he;s a lame duck, period. His record speaks for itself. What kid with any ambition of going pro, or at the least having a good D1 career is going to come here, when the coach couldnt even get his own son, an extremely highly ranked player( and as it turns out, extremely OVERranked player) to improve this program? The coach has won just 38% of his games, and lost at least 17 games in every full season he's coached (if not for the pandemic we likely lose at least 17 in 2020 as well). thats not a record that recommends itself to players, in truth they want nothing to do with a guy with that bad a record. We will see how the season ends. If we make the NCAA tournament (I can feel the eye rolls as certain posters read this) I wouldn’t mind having PBS coach his lame duck year. Any other result, the cost of having another season of sub par Panther basketball will be higher than paying PBS a 1 season buy out. If a coach like Lamont Paris is willing to come here, we can’t afford to miss out on something like that. The opportunity cost is too high to spiral further down. We could literally have an IUPUI season next year, where we are scouring the pick up games on campus for talent. The rebuild is already daunting enough. buppie lets looks at the standings right now. Cleveland state has clinched the 1 seed, meaning it will play the lowest seeded team that makes it out of the first round. Were currently 9th, but will host, since UIC wont be allowed to host. We're probably playing UIC in the 8-9 anyway. We win that. Unless one of Robert Morris , Green Bay or IUPUI pulls a msssive upset, we'd face CSU in round 2. Cleveland State has beaten us by double digits both times, and would heavily favored at home . Lets say we pull the upset and advance to the semis. there we would face the highest remaining seed, based on the current standings that would be Fort Wayne, who like CSU has beaten us by double digits both times. Lets say again, we pull another upset to reach the final. There will probably face the 3 seed northern Kentucky. We did beat them on Jan 1st by 6, but our last meeting they beat the pants off us and held us under 40. How likely is it that in the finakl we play more like Jan 1st than Feb 9th? |
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Post by Spirit of Bruce on Feb 23, 2022 13:40:11 GMT -6
Next year, he;s a lame duck, period. His record speaks for itself. What kid with any ambition of going pro, or at the least having a good D1 career is going to come here, when the coach couldnt even get his own son, an extremely highly ranked player( and as it turns out, extremely OVERranked player) to improve this program? The coach has won just 38% of his games, and lost at least 17 games in every full season he's coached (if not for the pandemic we likely lose at least 17 in 2020 as well). thats not a record that recommends itself to players, in truth they want nothing to do with a guy with that bad a record. We will see how the season ends. If we make the NCAA tournament (I can feel the eye rolls as certain posters read this) I wouldn’t mind having PBS coach his lame duck year. ENOUGH OF THE STUPID TALK, BUPPIE. If you want to blow smoke up your own ass, that's your business. No one else wants to hear about "If we make the NCAA tournament..." It ain't happening. Quit trying to put lipstick on the rotting corpse of a pig. It's not optimism, but rather insulting people's intelligence at this point. |
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Post by JG Panthers on Feb 23, 2022 13:58:10 GMT -6
Best Case Scenario- Mark Mone beats cancer, retires and is replaced by a Chancellor who values the positive impact a flourishing Athletic Department can have on a university
- Amanda Braun is relieved of her duties
- Pat Baldwin, Sr. is relieved of his duties and is replaced by a head coach with national success coaching at a lower level of competition
Worst Case Scenario- Mark Mone stays on as Chancellor
- Jimmy finds that Amanda Braun was extended through 2025. She wins another BS award padding her resume enough to stick around
- Pat Baldwin, Sr. completes his final year under contract near the bottom of all of Division 1 (again) and further embarrasses the university and inhibits its chances of recovery with future APR bans.
Likeliest Scenario- Mark Mone stays on as Chancellor
- Amanda Braun is extended through 2025.
- Pat Baldwin, Sr. completes his final year under contract near the..............
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Post by buppie05 on Feb 23, 2022 15:11:05 GMT -6
We will see how the season ends. If we make the NCAA tournament (I can feel the eye rolls as certain posters read this) I wouldn’t mind having PBS coach his lame duck year. ENOUGH OF THE STUPID TALK, BUPPIE. If you want to blow smoke up your own ass, that's your business. No one else wants to hear about "If we make the NCAA tournament..." It ain't happening. Quit trying to put lipstick on the rotting corpse of a pig. It's not optimism, but rather insulting people's intelligence at this point. Stranger things have happened. I’ll bet at least 2-3 other posters think it’s possible. I appreciate your take on it though SOB. |
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Post by Spirit of Bruce on Feb 23, 2022 15:15:47 GMT -6
ENOUGH OF THE STUPID TALK, BUPPIE. If you want to blow smoke up your own ass, that's your business. No one else wants to hear about "If we make the NCAA tournament..." It ain't happening. Quit trying to put lipstick on the rotting corpse of a pig. It's not optimism, but rather insulting people's intelligence at this point. Stranger things have happened. Oh, really? Such as? I would LOVE an example that would apply.... |
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Post by BBFran on Feb 23, 2022 17:01:31 GMT -6
C'mon SOB, if Grant Basile, Tanner Holden, Torrey Patton, Tre Gomillion, D'Moi Hodge, Jamal Cain, Jalen Moore, Antoine Davis, Marques Warrick, Sam Vinson, Jarred Godfrey, Damian Chong Qui and Jalon Pipkins all decide to drop out and join the Hare Krishnas before the tournament, we have a real chance at this thing! After all, as buppie will tell anyone who asks, we're loaded with talent!
Hare hare, krishna krishna...
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Post by Cactus Panther on Feb 23, 2022 17:02:07 GMT -6
Stranger things have happened. Oh, really? Such as? I would LOVE an example that would apply.... Here is one... Cinderella. |
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Post by Cactus Panther on Feb 23, 2022 17:15:56 GMT -6
The best aspect of college basketball tournaments are the upsets. Just look at the Panthers last year as the #8 cede. They won their first game, rallied late to upset the #1 cede in the quarterfinal and lost a close game to the eventual tournament champion in the semifinals. My theory is that PBS and his staff are not capable of motivating the team sufficiently to succeed, but sometime the players who do not want the season to end self-motivate. Also, top players from individual teams may underperform with the pressure of the season being on the line, or get injured which happened during the Jordan season.
Buppie is correct. A Panther win is possible. Highly improbable, but possible. Having stated that, if Bol would be healthy, I would feel a lot better about the very slight possibility.
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Post by reginaldkdwight on Feb 23, 2022 17:19:47 GMT -6
If Bol would be healthy and playing id say there is a very unlikely chance, but without him CSU beats the doors off us again. They didnt even play great the last time we played them. This team has too many holes and too little coaching to make a run.
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Post by BBFran on Feb 23, 2022 17:21:06 GMT -6
By the way, for all the negative nancies out there, we're not even out of it to have a winning season. We're sitting pretty at 9-20, folks. Beat IUPUI and UIC, that's 11-20. Sweep the HLT, 15-20! Then it's the First Four game (you just know the Committee will send us there because of their obvious bias against mid-majors). Win that game, 16-20. Then if we win the round of 64 and 32 games to advance to the Sweet Sixteen, 18-20. Win the next two to advance to the Final Four? 20-20! At that point all we have to do for a winning record is win the next two games. I mean think of it, people, it really just comes down to two games! Woo-hoo!
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Post by nickpanther on Feb 23, 2022 17:29:21 GMT -6
By the way, for all the negative nancies out there, we're not even out of it to have a winning season. We're sitting pretty at 9-20, folks. Beat IUPUI and UIC, that's 11-20. Sweep the HLT, 15-20! Then it's the First Four game (you just know the Committee will send us there because of their obvious bias against mid-majors). Win that game, 16-20. Then if we win the round of 64 and 32 games to advance to the Sweet Sixteen, 18-20. Win the next two to advance to the Final Four? 20-20! At that point all we have to do for a winning record is win the next two games. I mean think of it, people, it really just comes down to two games! Woo-hoo! So the only way to have a winning record at this point.. is to win the national championship? I have better odds of suddenly seeing out of my bad eye than the Panthers have of running off 13 straight wins to do that, and for the record i have NEVER seen out of that eye. . |
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Post by Duct_Tape_Pounce on Feb 23, 2022 17:37:10 GMT -6
The best aspect of college basketball tournaments are the upsets. Just look at the Panthers last year as the #8 cede. They won their first game, rallied late to upset the #1 cede in the quarterfinal and lost a close game to the eventual tournament champion in the semifinals. My theory is that PBS and his staff are not capable of motivating the team sufficiently to succeed, but sometime the players who do not want the season to end self-motivate. Also, top players from individual teams may underperform with the pressure of the season being on the line, or get injured which happened during the Jordan season. Buppie is correct. A Panther win is possible. Highly improbable, but possible. Having stated that, if Bol would be healthy, I would feel a lot better about the very slight possibility. Yup, as horrible as this Panther team has been this year, they have beaten Oakland, Wright State, and Northern Kentucky. I think their chance is less than 1%, but it’s not impossible. If the Panthers catch all their opponents on a bad night and the players ignore PBS as much as possible, they could win a few games, however unlikely that may be. |
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Post by buppie05 on Feb 23, 2022 17:46:29 GMT -6
The best aspect of college basketball tournaments are the upsets. Just look at the Panthers last year as the #8 cede. They won their first game, rallied late to upset the #1 cede in the quarterfinal and lost a close game to the eventual tournament champion in the semifinals. My theory is that PBS and his staff are not capable of motivating the team sufficiently to succeed, but sometime the players who do not want the season to end self-motivate. Also, top players from individual teams may underperform with the pressure of the season being on the line, or get injured which happened during the Jordan season. Buppie is correct. A Panther win is possible. Highly improbable, but possible. Having stated that, if Bol would be healthy, I would feel a lot better about the very slight possibility. Yup, as horrible as this Panther team has been this year, they have beaten Oakland, Wright State, and Northern Kentucky. I think their chance is less than 1%, but it’s not impossible. If the Panthers catch all their opponents on a bad night and the players ignore PBS as much as possible, they could win a few games, however unlikely that may be. The optimism on this board appears to be contagious. |
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Post by buppie05 on Feb 23, 2022 17:48:03 GMT -6
Stranger things have happened. Oh, really? Such as? I would LOVE an example that would apply.... How about the 2018 UMBC squad beating the clear league favorite Vermont to go to the NCAA tournament. Then, as a 16 seed, beating the overall #1 seed Virginia by 20 (ish) points ? |
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Post by Duct_Tape_Pounce on Feb 23, 2022 17:52:50 GMT -6
Yup, as horrible as this Panther team has been this year, they have beaten Oakland, Wright State, and Northern Kentucky. I think their chance is less than 1%, but it’s not impossible. If the Panthers catch all their opponents on a bad night and the players ignore PBS as much as possible, they could win a few games, however unlikely that may be. The optimism on this board appears to be contagious. Haha I wouldn’t quite say I’m optimistic about their chances… I’m just saying it’s possible. I think I’d pick at least 9 of the remaining teams in the conference over Milwaukee… I think only Green Bay and IUPUI are clearly worse. |
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