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Post by thetruth on Feb 20, 2022 15:59:59 GMT -6
We need to get a Black & Gold Club back up and running. We need to unite as a fan base and help turn this program around.
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Post by thetruth on Feb 20, 2022 16:23:35 GMT -6
Since Senior says PBJ isn't going to play the rest of the year, wouldn't it be smart to fire Coach now? No sense it delaying the inevitable.
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Post by reginaldkdwight on Feb 20, 2022 16:47:36 GMT -6
The only good that has come from this, I can now use general soreness to get out of work. Just got a new job working from home, going to send a teams message tmw about 45 minutes before im supposed to start and tell my boss I have some general soreness and im not going to be able to work. Will report back from unemployment. |
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Post by reginaldkdwight on Feb 20, 2022 16:53:44 GMT -6
A paper bag night is probably the only actual play for the tourney game
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Post by Spirit of Bruce on Feb 20, 2022 21:26:06 GMT -6
We need to get a Black & Gold Club back up and running. We need to unite as a fan base and help turn this program around. There is a slight problem: Mone and Braun don't give a damn what we think now any more than they did 6 years ago. Nor have they gotten any smarter. |
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Post by ghostofdylan on Feb 20, 2022 21:29:04 GMT -6
We need to get a Black & Gold Club back up and running. We need to unite as a fan base and help turn this program around. There is a slight problem: Mone and Braun don't give a damn what we think now any more than they did 6 years ago. Nor have they gotten any smarter. This should be this message board's masthead! |
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Post by panther9193 on Feb 21, 2022 1:22:00 GMT -6
We need to get a Black & Gold Club back up and running. We need to unite as a fan base and help turn this program around. There is a slight problem: Mone and Braun don't give a damn what we think now any more than they did 6 years ago. Nor have they gotten any smarter. I think that's been the case for every chancellor/athletic director after Nancy and Bud. |
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Post by Cactus Panther on Feb 21, 2022 6:07:23 GMT -6
I don't think general soreness is the threshold for staying home from work anymore. A mere inability to perform at an elite level is all that is necessary.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Feb 21, 2022 6:19:32 GMT -6
There is a slight problem: Mone and Braun don't give a damn what we think now any more than they did 6 years ago. Nor have they gotten any smarter. I think that's been the case for every chancellor/athletic director after Nancy and Bud. I agree. I think the difference is that their predecessors were merely incompetent. These two seem to be actively plotting against the men's basketball program. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2022 13:01:08 GMT -6
Ok, here we go fireamandabraun.com (SSL is now setup) Lots of things we could use this digital billboard for. Maybe an animated infographic/dataviz that, chronologically, paints the simple but damning picture of how absurdly off course Milwaukee Athletics has gotten since 2013. More people in positions of power have to fathom what is going on and the only language they seem to understand is money.Well. We here, are very well prepared to make that case. Change is inevitable. I'm confident in a better future if enough money can talk to the powers that be. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2022 13:04:42 GMT -6
Open call to all to send content- DM me.
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Post by PantherU on Feb 21, 2022 13:27:27 GMT -6
Good job. You gotta get a website and then work on a press pass, so this Coach is actually asked a challenging or in-depth question. What a waste of f***ing time that would be. |
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Post by PantherU on Feb 21, 2022 13:30:54 GMT -6
Yeah, fire Amanda Braun and then have her sue the university for wrongful termination. That'll be smart. /s
Best thing to do with AB is reassign her to somewhere else in the university to run out the clock on her contract, then don't renew it. That's a club right out of her bag.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2022 13:37:03 GMT -6
Yeah, fire Amanda Braun and then have her sue the university for wrongful termination. That'll be smart. /s Best thing to do with AB is reassign her to somewhere else in the university to run out the clock on her contract, then don't renew it. That's a club right out of her bag. I would argue there is a case for "termination for cause". Mismanagement may be par for the course at Milwaukee, but it isn't at other institutions/organizations. Her termination (won't happen, I know) would be 100% performance related. If nothing else, AD Braun should know that the clock is running out. Demoting her like Sandy Botham would be just as effective. I created the website merely to get this topic (our craptastic AD and MBB Program) front and center. We can turn this around. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2022 13:46:42 GMT -6
I sent this earlier as well FWIW. I do think enough noise/attention could get people like Mone and maybe even the UW Board of Regents to listen.
I took some friends to the game yesterday. We hardly watched the game but had a good time. It's a shame they couldn't have seen some actual fun Panther basketball like back in the day.
That's all we seek is a department that can consistently win- that has been false 5 years counting. In any business you get fired for results like this.
Just my 2 pence. I'm all about working together to do whatever we can (and should) do.
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2022 11:30 AM
To: carolina@uwm.edu <carolina@uwm.edu>; sweslow@uwm.edu <sweslow@uwm.edu>; adamsmat@uwm.edu <adamsmat@uwm.edu>; gonda@uwm.edu <gonda@uwm.edu>
Subject: To Chancellor Mone: Milwaukee Panther Athletics and the future of UWM
Dear Chancellor Mone,
I write to you today concerning a topic dear to my heart and one that I hope you have at least some concern for as it falls under the realm of your administrative domain. The University of Wisconsin Milwaukee gave me a great education and while I enjoyed my time on the East Side of Milwaukee as a student, the real enjoyment for me was getting to go back to the "Cell" as it was first called when I graduated in '05, and seeing old classmates, business colleagues and even meeting new Panther fan friends. Paying, active cheerful crowds of 3,500-4,500 were not that hard to come by.
This includes the time period long after Bruce Pearl was gone. Rob Jeter had some bad seasons. However, what is happening right now with Milwaukee Panther Men's Basketball is anybody's guess and so everyone is filling an information void. The only apparent "facts" are quite alarming for any fan who wants to see the Panthers become consistently successful and not merely become a Sports Illustrated "cautionary tale" article as is probably going to be the case after this no good, horrible season.
The reason "getting to go back" was so so much fun, was that the Milwaukee Panther Men's Basketball program (the single most public-facing arm of the university)- was good. They were competitive. Even in losses we fans were given a good (and HONEST) product for the money we paid. Some seasons, as you know- we were really good. And I'll bet if you were a Panther fan then, deep down, you'd have felt the same kind of invaluable pride and connection that keeps alumni not only "coming back" to campus and to see the basketball team downtown, but to donate, and to encourage their kids, and their kids friends, and their kids' kids - to attend Milwaukee.
I don't have to paint a complex financial picture of why you need a successful basketball program to have a successful state university (we are not competing with Harvard contrary to some interesting opinions). Enrollment tracks good experiences. Enrollment tracks a successful school not only in academics but in the things that make in-person, on-location college the kind of unifying, memorable culmination of talents and opinions from people of all walks of Life- that it is.
It is no breaking news to inform you that Milwaukee Panther Basketball (again, UWM's most public marketing whether acknowledged or not), is not on a "path to prominence" despite the ill-conceived plans of the current athletic director and other "leaders" in the Milwaukee AD. The drop-off in enthusiasm and accountability has been more than slightly pronounced in the preceding 8+ years that Mrs. Braun has been running the department.
Please take this outreach in earnest. Hear these concerns. Myself and other long-time, dyed-in-the-wool alum and Panther fans are not small in number, and this is not about some kind of anarchistic revolt or anything.
We just want the best for our university. And just as Rob Jeter was dismissed for failing to meet Braun's standards, it is not at all a stretch to ask why she will be renewed beyond next year when her contract (presumably, according to published news thus far) expires in June 2023.
I hope you put forth considerable effort into the selection of a competent, experienced winner for the next person to lead Milwaukee Athletics.
Respectfully,
<<victor e. panther>>
PS: I have some attached figures that indicate things aren't as equitable as the average Panther would expect nor as rosy as any Path to Prominence empty phrase would attempt to have you believe:
<<photo of disparity in UW Regents of Madison vs. Everyone Else>>
Just 1 representative from UWM? That doesn't seem right.
<<photo of enrollment drop>>
This is a very telling small multiples of sorts. Milwaukee's enrollment drop is not a myth or correlated with other Wisconsin universities as large as ours.
<<photo of enrollment drop>>
A snapshot summary of the glaring discrepency that has taken place since 2010- that is, since people actually recognized "Milwaukee Panthers" from the Milwaukee Milkmen. And students loved going to games making connections and memories. 2010 appears as though it was decades ago... it was but 12 years ago.
Summary
You need to replace the current Athletics Director to see any change in the accelerating downward trajectory. You know the reasons behind it (mismanagement and poor coach hiring decisions and unwarranted extensions). You are the leader of this still-great university. Please do the right thing and lead Milwaukee Athletics back into a place of actual prominence- the buzzwords and self-congratulatory culture has to change into one where hard work and success are rewarded. And where hiding information or telling outright lies is never, ever, tolerated.
Please do what you know is right Chancellor Mone. I have the day off today and took some time out to write you this. Please at least take the time to consider what is happening and make sure you plan for the future. Or if you do wish to retain Braun in perpetuity, please drop our athletics to D-II because what is happening now is not worth the emotional (nor financial) investment. But it can be done and has been done here before- you need a lights-out sports management leader for the Milwaukee AD. He or she is most definitely out there. Please listen to myself and others. I know my voice is not the only.
Sincerely wish you the best in health and in success. Your success is the Uni's success is everyone's success.
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