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Post by uwmfutbol on Apr 14, 2011 20:07:22 GMT -6
I'd rather have a coach with D2 or D3 experience than an assistant; UWM can't build forever.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Apr 14, 2011 20:08:49 GMT -6
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Post by ghostofdylan on Apr 14, 2011 20:11:04 GMT -6
I'd rather have a coach with D2 or D3 experience than an assistant. like Mike Krzyzewski, Roy Williams, Shaka Smart or Brad Stevens |
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Post by uwm97 on Apr 14, 2011 20:18:35 GMT -6
Here's why I believe Stevens when he says he's staying at Butler: he's not bothering to interview with anybody. Jeter has been contacted by three schools since '06 and he'll have interviewed with all three. If Miami gives him the same offer as they gave Amaker, my guess is he's gone.
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Post by mcdadenets50 on Apr 14, 2011 20:18:44 GMT -6
Damn Badgers are going to screw us again...
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Post by BBFran on Apr 14, 2011 20:19:17 GMT -6
Or Matt Painter or Tom Izzo or Tony Bennett.
The point is, hire the best guy for the job. Don't worry so much about their pedigree.
As I said, we'll have plenty of good candidates, from assistants to D3 head coaches to D1 head coaches.
But I suspect we don't really need to have this discussion. As the story dylan posted points out, it's not just a question of "is the opportunity at a high major?" You have to ask yourself whether you're going to a job that is destined to be the runt of the league that it's in. That might well describe Miami. If you go to a place like Miami and are still getting kicked around four years later -- which is not improbable given the competition -- your next job will be in sales somewhere or scouting for the NBA.
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Post by Rawls on Apr 14, 2011 20:41:17 GMT -6
Or Matt Painter or Tom Izzo or Tony Bennett. The point is, hire the best guy for the job. Don't worry so much about their pedigree. As I said, we'll have plenty of good candidates, from assistants to D3 head coaches to D1 head coaches. But I suspect we don't really need to have this discussion. As the story dylan posted points out, it's not just a question of "is the opportunity at a high major?" You have to ask yourself whether you're going to a job that is destined to be the runt of the league that it's in. That might well describe Miami. If you go to a place like Miami and are still getting kicked around four years later -- which is not improbable given the competition -- your next job will be in sales somewhere or scouting for the NBA. We said the same for Tennessee. |
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Post by PantherU on Apr 14, 2011 21:03:56 GMT -6
Or Matt Painter or Tom Izzo or Tony Bennett. The point is, hire the best guy for the job. Don't worry so much about their pedigree. As I said, we'll have plenty of good candidates, from assistants to D3 head coaches to D1 head coaches. But I suspect we don't really need to have this discussion. As the story dylan posted points out, it's not just a question of "is the opportunity at a high major?" You have to ask yourself whether you're going to a job that is destined to be the runt of the league that it's in. That might well describe Miami. If you go to a place like Miami and are still getting kicked around four years later -- which is not improbable given the competition -- your next job will be in sales somewhere or scouting for the NBA. We said the same for Tennessee. Things are much, much different for mid-majors since Bruce left. |
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Post by PantherU on Apr 14, 2011 21:05:08 GMT -6
We're also forgetting the immense pressure Miami's boosters have to be putting on Eichorst - the U fan base almost unanimously wants Frank Martin.
That's another reason in our favor - who wants to be the guy who follows Haith and ISN'T Frank Martin?
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Post by PantherU on Apr 14, 2011 21:06:38 GMT -6
If we were going to hire from within I'd rather have Duffy, although he's even more introverted than Jeter. Really? Have you ever talked to Duffy? |
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Post by buppie05 on Apr 15, 2011 6:59:17 GMT -6
Matt Graves and Greg Gard people? Maybe the Golden Warriors and GB have assistants whose name we can throw into the hat as well.
Do most teams suffer from threat of losing their coach? Yes, but programs like Butler and Xavier who have gotten sick of losing their coach have positioned themselves for stability by hiring someone with strong ties to the university. That's the reason those 2 coaches aren't interviewing for other jobs.
If we hire a proven head coach that wins for a few years and then moves on, that's fine, we can use the run of success. If we go the hire an assistant route, hire Pancratz. At least when hes done banging out losses and learns how to win, he may want to stick around a while and build at his alma. I don't think Rob is leaving this year, and I hope Rob stays for a long time and this is all moot.
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Post by JG Panthers on Apr 15, 2011 7:21:04 GMT -6
If we go the hire an assistant route, hire Pancratz. ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!! LOVE Pancratz, but to suggest he's ready for a Head Coaching job would be like suggesting I'm ready to be the CEO of Harley Davidson. He just doesn't have enough experience yet...Too green |
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Post by buppie05 on Apr 15, 2011 7:44:03 GMT -6
If we go the hire an assistant route, hire Pancratz. ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!! LOVE Pancratz, but to suggest he's ready for a Head Coaching job would be like suggesting I'm ready to be the CEO of Harley Davidson. He just doesn't have enough experience yet...Too green He's not ready for a head coaching job. Most assistants aren't. I was saying if we hire a "green ish" assistant with a learning curve, hire Pancratz. Simply because at least when he figures out how to win he will likely want to stick around and build here long time because of his ties to the university. Plus hes a 100% effort guy. As far as you being the CEO of Harley, maybe your ready maybe you aren't, but they could sure use a UWM guy in that post ;D |
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Post by JG Panthers on Apr 15, 2011 8:00:39 GMT -6
He's not ready for a head coaching job. Most assistants aren't. I was saying if we hire a "green ish" assistant with a learning curve, hire Pancratz. Simply because at least when he figures out how to win he will likely want to stick around and build here long time because of his ties to the university. Plus hes a 100% effort guy. As far as you being the CEO of Harley, maybe your ready maybe you aren't, but they could sure use a UWM guy in that post ;D Haha. Mark Pancratz will one day become a head coach at some level. I just don't believe he's ready to be one at one of the best programs in the Horizon League. Someday perhaps, but not today, or tomorrow. |
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Post by pnthr97 on Apr 15, 2011 8:05:06 GMT -6
From ESPN Insider:
UPDATE: According to this tweet by Jeff Goodman of FOXSports.com, sources indicate that Milwaukee coach Rob Jeter met with new Miami athletic director Shawn Eichorst Thursday night in Wisconsin.
If this meeting did in fact occur, Jeter could be the leading candidate for the job. Last month, Jeter turned down the Bradley job after meeting with officials from the school. The thought at the time was that Jeter would stay at Milwaukee for at least the near future, but a job offer from an ACC school -- even one routinely dogged for its low fan support like Miami -- could change Jeter's mind.
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