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Post by reginaldkdwight on Mar 7, 2024 0:59:41 GMT -6
Lol. If anything I'd be a Coach Lundy burner account, since he's the one that chooses to play at the K. 2-0 in the Horizon League Tournament on campus! Hopefully we can all agree that's a good thing. Last thing I'll say is it's very cool having a coach that actually acknowledges that he wants to improve crowds and is trying to make them better. I can live with being the evil guy on here that sides with the team. Correct beating the worst team in the league by 4 at home. Might as well hang a banner. I wonder if this is the clipboard coach
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Mar 7, 2024 8:11:30 GMT -6
A little less than 12 years ago, we had an AD who had 35 years of experience in the same position at some of the biggest/ most successful programs in the COUNTRY. He saw the same thing that you do and moved all of our games back to the K. Maybe someone here can tell you how that turned out for us. Lastly, I know you said I should ask someone about the 2012 move to campus sarcastically, but I'd actually like to hear more about that. I wasn't following the program back then. I'm open to hearing new perspectives about this, but I feel that having more students and being in a cozier environment was a good idea for last night's game. The move back to campus in 2012 or whatever year that was resulted in season tickets holders to drop by 50%. That number came from my guy who was the ticket guy at UWM at the time Brian Morgan. 50%!!!!!!!
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Post by Cactus Panther on Mar 7, 2024 8:49:11 GMT -6
So it wasn't Bart's ultimate decision? Now I'm confused.
EDIT: This was a reply to a post joetix since deleted.
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Post by joetix on Mar 7, 2024 9:02:12 GMT -6
It was Bart's ultimate decision. Just giving my two cents on why our current situation with the two venues isn't necessarily a bad thing and Detroit is a good example. Don't read into it too much.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Mar 7, 2024 9:13:30 GMT -6
The plot thickens ...
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Post by Cactus Panther on Mar 7, 2024 9:15:54 GMT -6
After a battle from Detroit Mercy, UWM faces a quick turnaround for UWGB in the Horizon League basketball tournament Dave Kallmann Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
If a rematch with rival UW-Green Bay on Thursday is the main course for the UW-Milwaukee men’s basketball team, then Tuesday was a heck of an appetizer.
Two days after running all over Green Bay in their Horizon League regular-season finale, the sixth-seeded Panthers got all they could handle from Detroit Mercy in the tournament opener, squeaking out an 83-79 victory over a team that left the Klotsche Center 1-31.
But handle the task they did. And maybe the experience will help as UWM – which finished the regular season 17-14 and 12-8 in conference play – tries to extend its season against a team with which it split its season series.
“Them hitting us early really helps us,” Panthers coach Bart Lundy said of the Titans, “because we know, hey, if we do this again, it’s probably the end.”
Milwaukee and Green Bay are scheduled to meet in a quarterfinal at 8 p.m. Thursday at the on-campus Kress Center, where the Phoenix has lost just twice this season.
“All I’m going to say about that is just wait for Milwaukee basketball on Thursday,” said guard BJ Freeman, who led UWM with 30 points. “We’re going to be ready to play and be ready for a war and be ready to battle.”
Tuesday was more of a battle than maybe it might have been.
The Panthers won the two regular-season matchups with the Titans in January more convincingly, 84-61 in Detroit and 87-71 at the UW-Milwaukee Panther Arena. Only once this season had Detroit Mercy scored more points in a game, that in its lone win, 81-66, over IUPUI. But then the Titans did give league champion Oakland all it could handle in the regular-season finale.
“This team had just every reason to shut it down, and these last few games they were really fighting, and they’ve got two elite scorers and then those other guys playing their roles,” Lundy said. “They just figured it out too late.”
Jayden Stone led Detroit Mercy with 30 points, and Marcus Tankersley had 21, playing more than 39 minutes apiece.
That’s not to say the Panthers’ struggles were all Titan-induced. More than a few times, missed defensive assignments by UWM led to easy points for Detroit Mercy.
“I didn’t think we prepared the right way,” Lundy said. “We came off a high with Green Bay, we weren’t very good in practice yesterday and came out sluggish in the first half, gave them a lead. I don’t know if we were looking ahead a bit, but we did enough to come back and tie it up at halftime and then battle in the second half. And it was definitely a battle.”
Detroit Mercy put Milwaukee in a hole midway through the first half with a run of 14 straight points to take a 17-8 lead. Two fast-break baskets by Elijah Jamison brought the Panthers within a possession at 26-23, the teams were tied, 35-35, at the half and they stayed close most of the rest of the way.
After hitting just one of 14 three-point shots in the first half, Milwaukee put up just five in the second half and made only one of those.
“We talked a lot at halftime about let’s drive this ball to the rim, and we were 1 for 5, but when you go to the rim you can buffer a 2 for 19 from three game when you’re getting layups and you’re getting free throws,” Lundy said.
Freeman scored 19 of his points in the second half. He also made all nine of his free throws.
Freeman became the first Panthers player since Shannon Smith, a mentor of Freeman’s, 29 years ago to score 20 more points in eight consecutive games.
UWM took the lead for good on Faizon Fields’ turnaround that made it 75-73 with 2:19 remaining. Erik Pratt’s free throw with 38.2 seconds left gave the Panthers their biggest lead at 80-73.
But three-pointers by Stone and Tobin Schwannecke pulled Detroit Mercy within 81-79 with 7.6 seconds left on the clock.
Enter Freeman.
Fouled on the inbounds with 6.7 left, he hit his first free throw, waited through a Panthers time out and then deposited the second.
“I don’t really feel it much,” Freeman said when asked about the pressure. “I just like playing basketball and just doing whatever I can so we can get the win and advance.”
Milwaukee split its two meetings with Green Bay, losing on the road, 70-58, in early December with Freeman out and then romping in the second half Saturday for a 90-69 victory in the regular-season finale at the Arena. Now the third meeting means the most.
“It’ll be really tough,” Lundy said. “I told the team, when you get to this point there’s adjustments that need to be made.
“They’re going to adjust to what happened the last game, and we need to make our own adjustments. What worked on Saturday probably won’t work as well on Thursday, so we’ve got to … try to figure out how to hit a team that’s really good on their home court.”
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Post by reginaldkdwight on Mar 7, 2024 9:22:32 GMT -6
It was Bart's ultimate decision. Just giving my two cents on why our current situation with the two venues isn't necessarily a bad thing and Detroit is a good example. Don't read into it too much. Does coach understand the last time they moved back to the k center half the season ticket holders dropped their tickets? Really disappointing to hear that he doesn’t quite understand why playing at the Mecca is important. All d1 games at the arena should be the standard for this program outside of maybe a holiday tournament. Can’t get any answers on why we play games at the k center but like I surmised it’s probably pretty nice for the ad to just walk across the hall and work the game. Not like we’ve played good there this year of anything it seems playing there makes the team sleepwalk. Maybe time to dig up the old ticket data and show coach why playing there is so bad for the program.
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Post by Cactus Panther on Mar 7, 2024 9:28:37 GMT -6
It was Bart's ultimate decision. Just giving my two cents on why our current situation with the two venues isn't necessarily a bad thing and Detroit is a good example. Don't read into it too much. Got it. It was probably a good decision for you to delete your post that prompted my "now I'm confused" reply. Your personal justification for playing Tuesday's game at the KC for "fiscal" and "logistic" reasons simply did not not match Bart's postgame narrative.
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Post by reginaldkdwight on Mar 7, 2024 9:33:38 GMT -6
It was Bart's ultimate decision. Just giving my two cents on why our current situation with the two venues isn't necessarily a bad thing and Detroit is a good example. Don't read into it too much. Got it. It was probably a good decision for you to delete your post. Justification for playing Tuesday's game for fiscal and logistic reasons simply does not match the postgame narrative. I mean didn’t need Joe to tell you that I already told you it’s cause the ad is cheap and likes being able to roll into the kcenter from their office across the hall. The it’s a better atmosphere or we play better there narrative is an obvious falsehood. Guess I wonder what the actuall number difference would be playing that game at the arena. You’d think you’d try to parley a nice win Saturday into getting people back in the arena Tuesday.
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Post by joetix on Mar 7, 2024 9:33:41 GMT -6
It was Bart's ultimate decision. Just giving my two cents on why our current situation with the two venues isn't necessarily a bad thing and Detroit is a good example. Don't read into it too much. Got it. It was probably a good decision for you to delete your post. Justification for playing Tuesday's game for fiscal and logistic reasons simply does not match the postgame narrative. Haha I don't want people to read too much into it. I wasn't disappointed when the decision was made to play Tuesday's game at the 'K for the reasons I mentioned, but my opinion isn't the one that counts when it's win or go home. I LOVE the arena but having an on-campus venue is important.
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Post by reginaldkdwight on Mar 7, 2024 10:11:29 GMT -6
Got it. It was probably a good decision for you to delete your post. Justification for playing Tuesday's game for fiscal and logistic reasons simply does not match the postgame narrative. Haha I don't want people to read too much into it. I wasn't disappointed when the decision was made to play Tuesday's game at the 'K for the reasons I mentioned, but my opinion isn't the one that counts when it's win or go home. I LOVE the arena but having an on-campus venue is important. considering they won by 4 and gave up nearly 80 to a team that has one win and a 15 point negative point differential over the year I’d say playing at the campus helped the team to roll out with scrimmage intensity while Detroit brought the type of energy you’d expect in the playoffs. I’d hope going forward you’d relay the feedback I know you get from season ticket holders on the importance of playing downtown. It’s like a 5 to 10 minute drive not really going across town. As jimmy has stated before we need to grow the university footprint across the entire city. UW shorewood feels so apt when the university makes choices like this. Probably no one in the department that was even there during the shameful choice to go back to the kcenter full time.
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Mar 7, 2024 10:21:03 GMT -6
I understand the KC over Thansgiving for a MTE. You get charge twice the rent for two games in one day at UWMPA. Which is not smart spending for a crowd that will have 700 people show up and no band.
It's just weird to say that our most important game of the year in the HL Tourney is played at the KC, when 12/15 of your games are played at UWMPA. Heck, I never even heard Pat Baldwin say we need to play the KC.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Mar 7, 2024 10:25:24 GMT -6
Haha I don't want people to read too much into it. I wasn't disappointed when the decision was made to play Tuesday's game at the 'K for the reasons I mentioned, but my opinion isn't the one that counts when it's win or go home. I LOVE the arena but having an on-campus venue is important. considering they won by 4 and gave up nearly 80 to a team that has one win and a 15 point negative point differential over the year I’d say playing at the campus helped the team to roll out with scrimmage intensity while Detroit brought the type of energy you’d expect in the playoffs. I’d hope going forward you’d relay the feedback I know you get from season ticket holders on the importance of playing downtown. It’s like a 5 to 10 minute drive not really going across town. As jimmy has stated before we need to grow the university footprint across the entire city. UW shorewood feels so apt when the university makes choices like this. Probably no one in the department that was even there during the shameful choice to go back to the kcenter full time. Mic drop! HELL NO!!! WE WON'T GO!!!!!
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Post by ghostofdylan on Mar 7, 2024 10:31:06 GMT -6
The Klotsche Center is a lead weight around our ankles!!!
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Post by extrabasedhit on Mar 7, 2024 12:26:10 GMT -6
Haha I don't want people to read too much into it. I wasn't disappointed when the decision was made to play Tuesday's game at the 'K for the reasons I mentioned, but my opinion isn't the one that counts when it's win or go home. I LOVE the arena but having an on-campus venue is important. considering they won by 4 and gave up nearly 80 to a team that has one win and a 15 point negative point differential over the year I’d say playing at the campus helped the team to roll out with scrimmage intensity while Detroit brought the type of energy you’d expect in the playoffs. I’d hope going forward you’d relay the feedback I know you get from season ticket holders on the importance of playing downtown. It’s like a 5 to 10 minute drive not really going across town. As jimmy has stated before we need to grow the university footprint across the entire city. UW shorewood feels so apt when the university makes choices like this. Probably no one in the department that was even there during the shameful choice to go back to the kcenter full time. It's good entertainment that you think the whole athletic department, coaches and team are just idiots that don't know anything. Like seriously dude chill out, it's okay for people who actually make the decisions to have different opinions than a guy on a message board.
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