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Post by Pantherholic on Mar 4, 2008 11:37:57 GMT -6
Maybe holic can chime in here ... With Griese going to the Bucs, is he slated to be the backup or will he challenge Garcia for the starting job? Garcia could be a solid backup plan for Rodgers. Garcia is the starter and Griese's the back-up. I'd love to trade you guys either Simms or Gradkowski to you. If its Simms, I'd love for Lou to introduce him at the presser. ;D |
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Post by Hack on Mar 4, 2008 11:40:41 GMT -6
Justin Harrell is a fat, first-round bust. ... just like Mario Williams. Oh wait. ... Mario Williams was a consensus top two pick before the draft that year and regarded as one of the best DE's to come out of college in years. Justin Harrell was an injury plagued DT and an extreme reach when the Packers drafted him. Not even a remotely analagous comparison. Sure it is because you had the same, couch potato experts screaming "BUST!" at the top of their lungs halfway through Mario's rookie season. Much too early to label Harrell a bust ... especially when he showed some signs of promise once he got into game action. |
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Post by gopanthers011 on Mar 4, 2008 11:44:00 GMT -6
Amazing how this thread was started for Favre's retirement and now we're making references to the Redskins, Texans, Bucs and Free Agency. Ha.
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Post by milwsport on Mar 4, 2008 11:44:11 GMT -6
Actually from what I heard and read, the Packers were going after Crumpler. Maybe he didn't want to play in the cold weather.
Also I don't understand how Thompson's statement on Brett's retirement showed he was happy that Brett left. Perhaps someone can explain that one.
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Post by uwm97 on Mar 4, 2008 11:45:28 GMT -6
Holic:
Free agency is for fools? The only two high-priced free agents Thompson has signed - Pickett and Woodson - have turned out quite nicely, haven't they? Will you argue otherwise?
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Post by brewtownbrian on Mar 4, 2008 11:46:32 GMT -6
And Ted Thompson knew Favre wasn't coming when the Titans signed him? Maybe. Maybe he was taking the fact that Favre could retire into consideration...that would've been a smart way to approach free agency. Fact is nobody will ever know. But arguing the point is moot...b/c Favre won't be throwing him, or anyone else for that matter, the ball. |
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Post by bball30 on Mar 4, 2008 11:49:00 GMT -6
Why don't you try explaining to me the fact Ted Thompson didn't even bother picking up the phone to call Asante Samuel. And if you can explain to me how an unspent $35 million helps this football team, I'm all ears. Players and Agents come up with a list of teams THEY are interested in. TT doesn't sit on the phone soliciting players, he looks for guys who are a fit to the organization, and want to be part of the Packers. $35 million helps on days just like today. Now that you've lost a "big piece" you have plenty of cap room to make the necessary adjustments. Now you may sign the veteran to back up, or spend the money on a higher talent draft pick. You can't just simply blow money because you are sitting on it. Personally, I don't get why the Packers don't just trade a few guys for LT and Tom Brady  |
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Post by uwm97 on Mar 4, 2008 11:50:09 GMT -6
This is just depressing. There are posts about Gradkowski and Jeff Garcia as backups, a position no Packers fan really worried about for 15 years. Now it's a matter of when, not if, the current Packers QB is going to go down.
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Post by Hack on Mar 4, 2008 11:52:14 GMT -6
Personally, I don't get why the Packers don't just trade a few guys for LT and Tom Brady YOU'RE HIRED! Get Slingblade outta there!! |
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Post by brewtownbrian on Mar 4, 2008 11:55:15 GMT -6
Why don't you try explaining to me the fact Ted Thompson didn't even bother picking up the phone to call Asante Samuel. And if you can explain to me how an unspent $35 million helps this football team, I'm all ears. And the $35 million (or whatever it is) doesn't need to be spent this year. It can also be used years down the road to lock up guys who have been drafted and have turned into good-to-great players. They seem high on young guys like Aaron Rouse, James Jones, Ryan Grant, Greg Jennings, etc. This is what happened when they locked up guys like Nick Barnett. They had the freedom and flexibility to do it before he hit free agency b/c they had cap room. |
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Post by uwm97 on Mar 4, 2008 11:55:34 GMT -6
Misrepresenting and exagerrating somebody else's position isn't a great way to win an argument, bball. Let's have a little honesty in this debate, alright?
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Post by uwm97 on Mar 4, 2008 11:57:20 GMT -6
It's also a good thing that Thompson ran Andrew Brandt out of town as well. He's only one of the best salary cap managers and contract negotiators in the NFL. Boy, Teddy Football is compiling quite a casualty list here in the past couple of weeks.
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Post by Pantherholic on Mar 4, 2008 11:57:57 GMT -6
Asante Samuel would have been a good addition as Harris and Woodson don't have many years left and he's one of the best corners in the league. They've needed a guard since Wahle left, and Fanacea was available. They haven't had a good TE since Chmura retired, and Crumpler was available. Need I continue? Please don't continue until you start making sense. |
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Post by bball30 on Mar 4, 2008 12:13:03 GMT -6
Misrepresenting and exagerrating somebody else's position isn't a great way to win an argument, bball. Let's have a little honesty in this debate, alright? The last line was strictly an attempt at sarcasm, as well as a joke. If you read the first two paragraphs I pointed out, with respect, that it's not as sipmle as signing players. Unfortunately they have the final say. For all we know, the Packers weren't even on the interest list for the guys you mentioned. |
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Post by Pantherholic on Mar 4, 2008 12:14:34 GMT -6
Holic: Free agency is for fools? The only two high-priced free agents Thompson has signed - Pickett and Woodson - have turned out quite nicely, haven't they? Will you argue otherwise? good lord. Perhaps had you been paying attention, I was talking about Nighthawk's delusional thought that the Packers should've been after half of the big name talent out there and the fact he constantly complains about the Packers not going top end guys year in and year out. FA is an even bigger risk than the draft b/c most of the top tier guys go where the money is and care about everything else second. If you look to see when the Packers signed both Woodson and Pickett, it wasn't within the first week of FA. I gave the example of Snyder b/c he's always a big player right out of the gate and look where its gotten him? Moss would not have gotten the Pack to the SB last year b/c it was McCarthy's coaching mistakes that didn't get them there and many of those mistakes involved abandoning the running game. So unless you think Moss should've lined up at behind Favre it wouldn't have made a difference and Nighthawk and others would then be b****ing about how TT doesn't have a running game instead of b****ing not signing Moss. |
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