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Post by PantherU on Mar 28, 2013 9:11:20 GMT -6
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Post by gman2 on Mar 28, 2013 11:12:27 GMT -6
Nice article. We have a new obstacle in our way, Sue Black. With her running the Wave, it makes it that much more difficult to take control of the Arena.
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Post by uwmplanner on Mar 28, 2013 12:31:18 GMT -6
From the article "The timing, surprisingly, is perfect. Instead of spending upwards of $60 million building an arena that will only bring us to our peers in the Horizon League, why don't we spend $5 million and buy 14 years of naming rights to rename the U.S. Cellular Arena the Milwaukee Arena? "
First off 5 * 14 is $70 mil not $60 mi, not sure if you were comparing the alternatives. Secondly, what happens at the end of 14 years and we still don't have a permanent home? Did we just piss away 70 Mil when we could've just bought a home to begin with?
Personally I don't see the Cell as the long term solution unless Wisconsin Center District wants to sell it for next to nothing. And considering how willing they have been to work with us in the past I wouldn't hold my breath on that.
I do like watching games at the Cell but I sense that is not where our future is and if that is the case stop messing around and stay at the KC. However I would like to see plans announced within a year for on campus or east side arena. Honestly when we became D1 in 1990 finding a permanent home for the basketball program should've been the top priority, but that never happened.
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Post by uwmplanner on Mar 28, 2013 13:22:12 GMT -6
I just re-read that and my reading comprehension sucks. 5 million for a 14 year naming rights, my bad. Does paying for the naming rights actually get us to a point where we aren't treated like dog crap?
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Post by gman2 on Mar 28, 2013 14:10:14 GMT -6
The WCD badly wants to and desperately needs to expand convention space, but they do not have the funds to do so. There may be an opportunity to buy the Cell. The City of Milwaukee for years has wanted the State to give up the land between 6th street and 7th street for development. How about a swap. Give WCD the land containing the state office building and in exchange give UWM the Arena. May not be a zero sum exchange, but it is a start.
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Post by Super King on Mar 28, 2013 15:39:43 GMT -6
What happens when the city gets grifted into giving the Bucks a new arena and decides to tear down the Cell?
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Post by PantherU on Mar 28, 2013 18:10:03 GMT -6
What happens when the city gets grifted into giving the Bucks a new arena and decides to tear down the Cell? Whenever the "new Bradley Center" is built, it is going to be built north of the current Bradley Center space. if you build it on the current Cell footprint or even on the current BC footprint, you leave a wide berth of space north of the Bradley Center that hasn't been taken up by anything because no one wants to build on the land. If you build the "new BC" on that land, the space in between the Arena and the "new BC" is prime real estate that will be developed a lot quicker than waiting for the land north of the current BC to be developed. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2013 8:23:55 GMT -6
What happens when the city gets grifted into giving the Bucks a new arena and decides to tear down the Cell? Whenever the "new Bradley Center" is built, it is going to be built north of the current Bradley Center space. if you build it on the current Cell footprint or even on the current BC footprint, you leave a wide berth of space north of the Bradley Center that hasn't been taken up by anything because no one wants to build on the land. If you build the "new BC" on that land, the space in between the Arena and the "new BC" is prime real estate that will be developed a lot quicker than waiting for the land north of the current BC to be developed. Don't be so sure about a new NBA arena being built in the Park East corridor. Rocky Marcoux will have a significant say in what does and does not get built in that location. That is prime real estate and I get the feeling that the city wants that location zoned more for commercial real estate (office buildings) and continue to grow the central business district. Ultimately, you may be right with regard to the placement of a new arena. However, I find it just as plausible that "the Cell" gets torn down and is the new locale for the Bucks. |
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Post by mwu on Mar 29, 2013 9:23:52 GMT -6
I would venture to say that a renovated BC is more likely than a new building. Don't believe the hype that there's nothing that can be done to update the facility. Currently, AIA Milwaukee is having a Mini-design competition looking at the entire BC parcel (bounded by Juneau, 4th, 6th, and State Streets) developing a more attractive and functional district. I would've entered but I've got enough on my plate for now.
Anyways, yes the team needs to move back to the Arena. If I were still living in Milwaukee I wouldn't have renewed my season tickets anyways, mainly because I felt it was completely out of bounds for the University to charge the same price for seats in the Klotsche.
$100 to sit on an ill-proportioned bench seat? No thank you.
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Post by gman2 on Mar 29, 2013 11:26:45 GMT -6
Whenever the "new Bradley Center" is built, it is going to be built north of the current Bradley Center space. if you build it on the current Cell footprint or even on the current BC footprint, you leave a wide berth of space north of the Bradley Center that hasn't been taken up by anything because no one wants to build on the land. If you build the "new BC" on that land, the space in between the Arena and the "new BC" is prime real estate that will be developed a lot quicker than waiting for the land north of the current BC to be developed. Don't be so sure about a new NBA arena being built in the Park East corridor. Personally, I don't see a new NBA arena being built. The franchise stinks, it cost an arm and a leg to attend a game (tickets and concessions) and does anyone in Milwaukee care about the NBA? I can't see tearing down the Cell. The Cell allows the city to host events that cannot be justified in the BC or a new NBA Arena. Plus, I don't think a new NBA arena would fit in the Cell's footprint: maps.google.com/?ll=43.043041,-87.917597&spn=0.006234,0.009645&t=h&z=17 |
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Post by uwmfutbol on Mar 29, 2013 17:55:56 GMT -6
I guess I'm a little too negative, but I'd be shocked if we ever return to the Cell, and I'd be even more shocked if a new arena was built for the Bucks. People just don't care enough to "justify" either of these moves. We'll have to wait and see what our new AD's vision is.
With renovations, the Cell really could be a special home for UWM. I wish the University owned the Cell (and was the sole tenant) and had the cash to renovate it. That way a piece of basketball history remains in the city and a part of UWM.
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Post by Hack on Mar 29, 2013 18:09:33 GMT -6
Not saying this would happen or is even on anyone's mind besides mine ...
I wonder if there is thought among the Potawatomi to building an arena in the Valley corridor, perhaps even as part of the casino complex? ... much like the Mohican Sun Arena, MGM Grand, Mandalay Bay, Orleans, etc.
Some were speculating years ago they wanted to put some of the casino downtown (as far-fetched as that seems), but putting an arena there makes more sense to me if it's their goal to build off a partnership.
They are already building a hotel down there and could be another piece to building up that area into an entertainment district and be a nice bridge to connect with Miller Park.
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Post by PantherU on Mar 29, 2013 23:19:04 GMT -6
Not saying this would happen or is even on anyone's mind besides mine ... I wonder if there is thought among the Potawatomi to building an arena in the Valley corridor, perhaps even as part of the casino complex? ... much like the Mohican Sun Arena, MGM Grand, Mandalay Bay, Orleans, etc. Some were speculating years ago they wanted to put some of the casino downtown (as far-fetched as that seems), but putting an arena there makes more sense to me if it's their goal to build off a partnership. They are already building a hotel down there and could be another piece to building up that area into an entertainment district and be a nice bridge to connect with Miller Park. Do you not remember Nighthawk's proposal? I guess it was 7 years ago, so I'm not surprised. The only reason I remembered it was because he and I were talking about it yesterday, no joke. |
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Post by uwmfansince1997 on Mar 30, 2013 1:11:26 GMT -6
Never happen. Compact states that no other non tribal revenue producing entity outside of Indian affairs will operate in the governed area set forth by the bia. Or as the avid gambler would call it 'Menomomee valley'. Unless the undesirable flood land in the valley pays its fair share of taxes, the uni will be recuperating the cost.
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Post by Hack on Mar 30, 2013 7:55:18 GMT -6
Never happen. Compact states that no other non tribal revenue producing entity outside of Indian affairs will operate in the governed area set forth by the bia. Or as the avid gambler would call it 'Menomomee valley'. Unless the undesirable flood land in the valley pays its fair share of taxes, the uni will be recuperating the cost. I'm not talking about UWM or the Bucks or city/county building an arena down there. I said I wonder if the Forest County Potowatomi had any thoughts of building an arena there. |
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