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Post by kingsteve on May 18, 2012 12:19:10 GMT -6
Right on Paul....at the risk of piling on....we have a perennial conference champion track team with no frickin TRACK!! A tennis team with no tennis courts.....have to piggyback on the baseball team playing on a high school field AT BEST!!!! sometimes I am amazed of what these kids accomplish and how we can recruit in these sports under these circumstances...got a call at home from a nice young lady in the AD asking me to renew and possibly increase annual Panther Fund contribution which I did increase..this is assuming Andy Geiger and and will do the following:
<Help restore Mens Soccer to something resembling its former status.
<Get MLB like Koonce was working on to build a field that would solve dual purposes of use for inner city kids and UWM
<Get a track and tennis facility also (hope they keep Engelmann for soccer but add a few more seats)
<Get on campus Convocation center planned and fund raising started including seg fees...
<keep close eye on our flagship mens basketball program...Rob must get to the NCAA tourney ONCE under his own recruits before his contract expires in 2016 or is that 2116??? jeesh... one and done in CBI does not get it done even with on paper 20 wins... so what??? great he says he supports Rob.. that is fine for now..but hold him accountable to get us back to the Big DAnce by the time his contract finally is up whatever year that is...
Go Panthers!!!!!!!!
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Post by kingsteve on May 18, 2012 12:23:14 GMT -6
Not saying to build a new pool for the swim team on top of all this but if I am not mistake when the geniuses designed the Klotsche they put in a pool that was NOT Olympic size ...after Baker Field House I guess anything was an improvement...last question.. Was Golda Meir a cheerlead for the Green Gulls back in the day?? LOL
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Post by kingsteve on May 18, 2012 12:28:22 GMT -6
SO...lets concentrate on football... heck with money, Title 9 or 19 or whatever it is and all this other stuff... football will drive the bus...give me a break...yeah I am a baby boomer and I love football but this is UWM...it ain't gonna happen... club football at best...sucks but that is the only practical approach.. fun to dream though...If UWM though would make that commitment AND have the financial wherewithal to get it done no reason we could not be another Northern Illinois and a fill a great football niche here in Wiscconsin in the MAC... seriously I would support that while not at the expense of the much more critically and expedient other needs mentioned above... problem is the money ain't there and ain't gonna be there... would be nice but that is the stone cold reality.
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Post by mcdadenets50 on May 18, 2012 14:59:59 GMT -6
Agree.
Football never a practical thought in my mind.
Let's get soccer back. Now.
Let's get a baseball stadium. Yesterday.
Amazing what track, tennis, and swimming and diving accomplish with next to nothing. In the case of tennis, absolutely no facilities.
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Post by uwmfutbol on May 18, 2012 17:26:32 GMT -6
Soccer, baseball and basketball have to be the priorities. Find a good coach for soccer, build a respectable field for baseball, and find a way to make the on-campus arena happen. From there, address the remaining athletics at UWM.
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Post by PantherU on May 18, 2012 19:34:39 GMT -6
Basketball is the priority.
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Post by The Green Gull on May 18, 2012 20:30:35 GMT -6
Agreed, basketball is currently the first priority.
Although there are other needs in the athletic department, basketball is the only revenue sport currently within the department.
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Post by The Green Gull on May 18, 2012 20:53:23 GMT -6
Agreed, basketball is currently the first priority. Although there are other needs in the athletic department, basketball is the only revenue sport currently within the department. This could change if football or men's ice hockey is added to the athletic department. But how it currently stands, basketball is the only sport that would be classified as a "revenue sport" and as a result would be considered the priority at this time. Once basketball is taken care of (i.e. an on campus basketball arena and a practice facility) then the non-revenue sports will be further developed. For example, the baseball program's facility needs a major upgrade as well as the track and field program needs its own outdoor complex as well. When basketball and the non revenue sports are addressed then Milwaukee Athletics can thoroughly plan to add more revenue sports in order to raise revenue, attract more donors, and increase the profile of the athletic department and the university. |
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Post by davedome on May 19, 2012 22:43:14 GMT -6
I agree with those points, you're all correct. But a mediocre basketball program (just based on post-season success as of late) is not going to be able to fund the needed improvements and upgrades in the other non-revenue producing sports. As far as the big donors, wouldn't they have contributed to those sports by now IF THEY WANTED TO? The areas of needs in those sports have not changed. Do we really think they will open up the pockets that much with a different pitch from another A.D.?
The new basketball arena should be project 1# but football should be 2A and 2B. It would work and along with taking care of the deficiencies in the other sports. Football isn't more important than those other sports but let's be honest, fans/alumni would pay/donate for a football program before a new swimming pool or track. Saturday Gamedays on the eastside would be profitable for everyone.....in the long run.
In regards to baseball, all I can say is the Brewers should be embarrassed.....gotta be more they can do.
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Post by PantherU on May 19, 2012 23:38:28 GMT -6
As I've said before, football will happen if alumni and students mandate it. Unless that happens, you're going to have to wait for the program to sort itself out financially and physically (facilities).
If you don't want to wait, do something about it. E-mail jimmy@pantheru.com and I'll get you in touch with those people who are planning to make a move.
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on May 20, 2012 7:01:50 GMT -6
Don't e-mail or call, unless you have your checkbook out.
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Post by uwmfutbol on May 20, 2012 7:47:58 GMT -6
The vast majority of programs with football are losing money on it. When you couple that with UWM's horrible track record when it comes to private endowment, I'm worried.
If football is to be in UWM's future, I'd hypothesize that this future is at least a few decades away.
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Post by JG Panthers on May 20, 2012 9:42:49 GMT -6
What we really need to start planning for is a collegiate world that involves the compensation of its players. There is a real possibility, in my opinion, that once that begins, the NCAA will be split between those who can afford to pay its players, and those who can not. Right now, we're on the losing end of that and unfortunately it wouldn't change with a football program. It might only get worse. Market your program correctly to expand your fan base and achieve success or else... who knows?
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Post by The Green Gull on May 20, 2012 13:00:56 GMT -6
The vast majority of programs with football are losing money on it. When you couple that with UWM's horrible track record when it comes to private endowment, I'm worried. If football is to be in UWM's future, I'd hypothesize that this future is at least a few decades away. Yikes! “At least a few decades away.” If this is the case, this would be devastating for the growth and development of the athletic department and the university. A football program will attract more donors, raise the profile of the university, and will connect the university with students and alumni. Private endowment would be another reason to start football. A football program will connect with alumni and students and as a result will create stronger loyalty to the university. |
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Post by uwmfutbol on May 20, 2012 13:32:02 GMT -6
The vast majority of programs with football are losing money on it. When you couple that with UWM's horrible track record when it comes to private endowment, I'm worried. If football is to be in UWM's future, I'd hypothesize that this future is at least a few decades away. Yikes! “At least a few decades away.” If this is the case, this would be devastating for the growth and development of the athletic department and the university. A football program will attract more donors, raise the profile of the university, and will connect the university with students and alumni. Private endowment would be another reason to start football. A football program will connect with alumni and students and as a result will create stronger loyalty to the university. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. I don't have enough faith in the UWM faithful (pun intended). |
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