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Post by GB BB is Back! on Mar 25, 2012 20:35:02 GMT -6
True, if you ignore the fact the Miles built both programs from the ground up, while Jeter took over a Sweet 16 team and brought them backwards. Sometimes I wonder if you watch basketball. It's funny that in so many posts, you'll bash the hell out of Bruce Pearl, until now when his success conveniently supports your argument. Kind of. Jeter didn't "take over a Sweet 16 team." He took over a Sweet 16 senior class. That's it. So are really saying it isn't easier to lure recruits to a team that has been dancing than it is to a bad program? And I'm the one who doesn't know basketball?
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Post by parkerj on Mar 25, 2012 20:42:41 GMT -6
beside the trolling comment, i do agree that Miles' resume isn't as simple as the initial comment suggests...
he took a team in its first year in D1 and recruited arguably their 2 best players of all time in his first class
CSU was in the trash when he took them over...coming off a single-digit win season with 2 scholarship players that stuck around for his first year
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Post by PantherU on Mar 25, 2012 22:13:03 GMT -6
beside the trolling comment, i do agree that Miles' resume isn't as simple as the initial comment suggests... he took a team in its first year in D1 and recruited arguably their 2 best players of all time in his first class CSU was in the trash when he took them over...coming off a single-digit win season with 2 scholarship players that stuck around for his first year How hard is it to recruit the "best players of all time" when they JUST got to D-I? And they've only been full D-I for about 3 years now, right? CSU has football money. The Rams spent $3.6 million in men's basketball this year. That seems like not that much more than most Horizon League programs, but then you have to remember that a lot of the support staff expenses that I-AAA schools claim as men's basketball expenses are not tallied into CSU's expenses, instead being claimed in their football expenses. I suppose it's a moot point to bring up that we beat CSU for JJ Panoske in recruiting, since a big reason JJ picked Milwaukee was because of the proximity to his dad.
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Post by gman2 on Mar 25, 2012 22:23:30 GMT -6
You have to like how this was handled by Stevens and Butler, swift and decisive. Unlike our situation in which rumors spread, Jeter talks to whoever has interest in him, and through either his own decision or that of the institution he is back in Milwaukee, than makes pretty much the same statement on how fortunate he is to have the situation he has in Milwaukee.
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Post by parkerj on Mar 25, 2012 22:25:03 GMT -6
pretty difficult...they were playing harder competition than their predecessors, and yet wound up #s 1 and 2 on the all time scoring list while leading the team to an NCAA tournament in their first year of eligibility (and while sharing the ball amongst each other and the #8 scorer in school history)
they beat UW at the Kohl Center and MU at the MU at the Bradley Center in their third and fourth years in D-1...do you see SIU-Edwardsville getting to that level next year or the year after? Nebraska-Omaha in 2 or 3 years? i'm gonna say probably not
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Post by PantherU on Mar 25, 2012 22:27:59 GMT -6
I'm not saying they aren't the best players in NDSU's history. I'm saying that Miles recruited players to D-II for years, and then all of a sudden he was recruiting players for D-I. Big difference for recruits.
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Post by parkerj on Mar 25, 2012 23:16:15 GMT -6
his first group of D-1 recruits finished their careers with a 26 win season, a conference championship, and an NCAA tournament appearance...other teams to come up recently haven't come near that level of success, particularly in their first years of eligibility
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Post by loveyouso on Mar 26, 2012 20:18:19 GMT -6
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Post by nohopspanther on Mar 26, 2012 20:26:23 GMT -6
You must have failed to read the part about Northwestern is busy raising $250 million dollars as part of their arms race for athletics. Carmody has helped their basketball team reach a level that was never sustainable before. Carmody's presence is not hurting their fund raising cause or their attendance and ability to win. It's like you don't understand how there are ZERO similarities to Jeter and his situation here.
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Post by mujivitz06 on Mar 26, 2012 21:04:55 GMT -6
Looks like the next rumor is Jeter is headed to Starkville. Mark Miller tweeted that it will happen. Miss. St.
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Post by gman2 on Mar 26, 2012 21:24:09 GMT -6
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Post by blackcatinorange on Mar 26, 2012 21:34:03 GMT -6
Jeter is gone. What next??
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2012 21:36:37 GMT -6
Jeter is gone. What next?? Start a new chapter. Frankly, it's long overdue.
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Post by parkerj on Mar 26, 2012 21:36:39 GMT -6
might be jumping the gun
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Post by PantherU on Mar 26, 2012 21:39:13 GMT -6
Right. Goodman says the rumor has no legs. My sources - you can't get closer than these people - have no idea he was even talking to Miss. State.
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