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Post by BBFran on Feb 14, 2012 17:23:17 GMT -6
The reason UWM has no money is there is no excitement among donors and fans, that goes double for casual fans. That goes right to the heart of having Jeter coach and irresponsibly giving him annual rollovers for "recruiting." The only thing the school keeps doing is digging a bigger hole. What a bunch of horse manure. Where was the money when Pearl was here? We needed a facility just as much then, and nobody was buying us one. Maybe it's because nobody with money really believed he would stay when it was obvious he was positioning himself to leave. We have a good coach now who is committed to the program and has proven he can win with his own recruits. But you Pearl dead-enders would rather wallow in self-pity than support the team and help it succeed. What a world view.
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Post by uwm97 on Feb 14, 2012 17:31:46 GMT -6
He'll be a lot more committed when he's not offered any new coaching gigs after this year.
Was being prevented from making perfectly logical criticisms of this coach a prerequisite for buying season tickets? If so, I wonder how I was able to purchase mine.
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Post by nohopspanther on Feb 14, 2012 22:44:54 GMT -6
The reason UWM has no money is there is no excitement among donors and fans, that goes double for casual fans. That goes right to the heart of having Jeter coach and irresponsibly giving him annual rollovers for "recruiting." The only thing the school keeps doing is digging a bigger hole. What a bunch of horse manure. Where was the money when Pearl was here? We needed a facility just as much then, and nobody was buying us one. Maybe it's because nobody with money really believed he would stay when it was obvious he was positioning himself to leave. We have a good coach now who is committed to the program and has proven he can win with his own recruits. But you Pearl dead-enders would rather wallow in self-pity than support the team and help it succeed. What a world view. Keep the manure coming Fran, the check books of several CEO UWM grads were starting to open as the attendance started to grow. Winning and losing doesn't get coaches fired, attendance does and you know damn well that's the truth. In the meantime the university continues to dig a hole with a check that has 5 zeroes instead of the 4 you're asking for every single time they give Jeter a rollover that keeps the total owed above 6 zeroes.
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Post by BBFran on Feb 15, 2012 8:59:55 GMT -6
Bruce is never, ever coming back nohops. In the words of that great basketball philosopher, Bo Ryan, deal with it.
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Post by The Green Gull on Feb 15, 2012 13:56:07 GMT -6
Jeter getting fired is a pointless discussion. Do I think jeter should move on from the program after his 7th year as head coach? Of course I do. But Jeter’s not going to get fired because of his remaining contract. Also, Jeter’s teams are winning just enough to get by without warranting being fired. It seems that the only way Jeter leaves the program is by his own accord. I think there are two scenarios in which Jeter would leave voluntarily that would work out positively for both Jeter and the Milwaukee basketball program. - Jeter gets offered a head coaching position at another school and takes the offer. He had a decent amount of interest from various schools after last year, and hopefully the team can finish the season strong, so that he can parlay that to another offer. He probably won’t get a high major offer this time around. Although the Nebraska job might be vacant and the Huskers might be interested in a coach with head coaching experience with solid Midwest connections now that they are in the Big Ten.
- Jeter voluntary resigns and either becomes a lead assistant coach at a BCS program or becomes a television analyst. Jeter has a lot of good experience and I’m sure he would be a leading candidate for a lot of high profile assistant coaching positions throughout the country and specifically in the Midwest. If all else fails I’m sure Bo would love to have him back on his bench.
I appreciate that Coach Jeter is running a clean program and has laid a nice foundation for the program as well. I think after seven years as head coach, it’s time for both parties to move on. I would love to see another head coach come in and build on the foundation that Jeter has built here and take the program to a better, more successful and exciting level, one where we finish in the top 3 of the Horizon league more than 1 out of 5 years.
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Post by Hack on Feb 15, 2012 14:21:10 GMT -6
How many times are you going to post that? We read it. Move on.
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Post by nohopspanther on Feb 15, 2012 17:52:10 GMT -6
Bruce is never, ever coming back nohops. In the words of that great basketball philosopher, Bo Ryan, deal with it. Thanks for admitting that you can bloviate and somehow never have a point. I never said I want Bruce back, I want someone who can actually create excitement and coach offense as well as defense. That will increase attendance AND winning which will also increase donations. It's obvious you're fine with watching the program dwindle on the vine instead.
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Post by BBFran on Feb 15, 2012 18:19:54 GMT -6
Bruce is never, ever coming back nohops. In the words of that great basketball philosopher, Bo Ryan, deal with it. Thanks for admitting that you can bloviate and somehow never have a point. I never said I want Bruce back, I want someone who can actually create excitement and coach offense as well as defense. That will increase attendance AND winning which will also increase donations. It's obvious you're fine with watching the program dwindle on the vine instead. Right, I attend as many games, home and away, as I can, make my donations and volunteer my time and support the kids because the program has no excitement and is dwindling on the vine. If your mileage varies, that sucks for you. One less area of joy in your life and you know what? That's strictly your decision. You can be positive about the program and do what you can to help it or you can be negative and b**** about how it's disappointing you. We have made different choices. By the way, I can pretty much assure you that the decision makers who run the program have a view of our coach that is very far removed from yours. But hey, what do they know? They're just professionals, while you're an internet sports expert who knows how the program and its donors should be spending their money better than they do.
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Post by 2543nick on Feb 15, 2012 19:54:23 GMT -6
Thanks for admitting that you can bloviate and somehow never have a point. I never said I want Bruce back, I want someone who can actually create excitement and coach offense as well as defense. That will increase attendance AND winning which will also increase donations. It's obvious you're fine with watching the program dwindle on the vine instead. Right, I attend as many games, home and away, as I can, make my donations and volunteer my time and support the kids because the program has no excitement and is dwindling on the vine. If your mileage varies, that sucks for you. One less area of joy in your life and you know what? That's strictly your decision. You can be positive about the program and do what you can to help it or you can be negative and b*tch about how it's disappointing you. We have made different choices. By the way, I can pretty much assure you that the decision makers who run the program have a view of our coach that is very far removed from yours. But hey, what do they know? They're just professionals, while you're an internet sports expert who knows how the program and its donors should be spending their money better than they do. I'm pretty sure you do this because you are the biggest homer and only see the world through black and gold colored glasses. Oh wait, I forgot, the mantra of this board is a fan is only a fan if they blindly follow whatever coach we have.
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Post by The Green Gull on Feb 15, 2012 22:33:54 GMT -6
How many times are you going to post that? We read it. Move on. I was wondering if anyone was going to notice and call it out, congrats sir, well played Maybe I should post it once more to get my point across
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Post by loveyouso on Feb 16, 2012 6:58:05 GMT -6
Here's why you don't make a coaching Change UNLESS YOU HAVE TO: At Wake Forest Dino Gaudio was fired after 3 years ; 61-31 record and 2 NCAA Bids. Jeff Bzedlik was hired. WF was 8-24 his first year and 12-14 this year. How many year's will it take Jeff to get to Gaudio's winning %?! Here is another reason you don't make a coaching change unless you have to: Jim Whitesell inherited a 9-20 team from Larry Farmer, at Loyola of IL. He went 109-107 in 7 season. So far this year Porter Moser is 6-19. In only one year did Whitesell lose as many as 19 games.
"WE" have a winning coach. Let's encourage him and stick with him. Go Panthers.
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Post by JG Panthers on Feb 16, 2012 7:10:21 GMT -6
Here's why you don't make a coaching Change UNLESS YOU HAVE TO: At Wake Forest Dino Gaudio was fired after 3 years ; 61-31 record and 2 NCAA Bids. Jeff Bzedlik was hired. WF was 8-24 his first year and 12-14 this year. How many year's will it take Jeff to get to Gaudio's winning %?! Here is another reason you don't make a coaching change unless you have to: Jim Whitesell inherited a 9-20 team from Larry Farmer, at Loyola of IL. He went 109-107 in 7 season. So far this year Porter Moser is 6-19. In only one year did Whitesell lose as many as 19 games. "WE" have a winning coach. Let's encourage him and stick with him. Go Panthers. My high expectations remain but truly a solid post.
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Post by 2543nick on Feb 16, 2012 8:16:34 GMT -6
Here's why you don't make a coaching Change UNLESS YOU HAVE TO: At Wake Forest Dino Gaudio was fired after 3 years ; 61-31 record and 2 NCAA Bids. Jeff Bzedlik was hired. WF was 8-24 his first year and 12-14 this year. How many year's will it take Jeff to get to Gaudio's winning %?! Here is another reason you don't make a coaching change unless you have to: Jim Whitesell inherited a 9-20 team from Larry Farmer, at Loyola of IL. He went 109-107 in 7 season. So far this year Porter Moser is 6-19. In only one year did Whitesell lose as many as 19 games. "WE" have a winning coach. Let's encourage him and stick with him. Go Panthers. Yes. Lets accept mediocrity because we are afraid it could be worse.
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Post by loveyouso on Feb 16, 2012 9:53:41 GMT -6
2543nick: 61-31 and 2 NCAA Bids is mediocrity?! In your opinion What is a "Non Mediocre record"?
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Post by 2543nick on Feb 16, 2012 11:29:59 GMT -6
2543nick: 61-31 and 2 NCAA Bids is mediocrity?! In your opinion What is a "Non Mediocre record"? No, what I am saying is, you are basing your argument for not switching coaches on Wake Forest having a good coach and then getting worse. I fact of the matter is, we have a mediocre program and staff and therefore this is not a good argument.
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