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Post by BBFran on Apr 19, 2011 15:19:15 GMT -6
Davis would be a long way down my list. His Providence teams were consistently bad defensively. That's a recipe for failure. Winning basketball is defensive basketball. I'm not talking about pace, which too many people confuse with both offense and defense. They just didn't defend.
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Post by Super King on Apr 19, 2011 15:39:08 GMT -6
Billy Packer on HBO's Real Sports said that college basketball is dirtier now than it has ever been, and I believe Packer on that. Go ask Donnie Kirksey about Juwan Howard the next time UIC comes to town. College athletics are no dirtier than they've ever been. Hell, Calipari's first vacated Final Four was at freaking Massachusetts. |
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Post by Rawls on Apr 19, 2011 15:48:50 GMT -6
Spot on King. Hell, google the name Sam Gilbert. The only difference is that it's harder to cheat and get away with it now. The game is dirty and has been dirty since any of us has started following it.
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Post by nohopspanther on Apr 19, 2011 17:19:51 GMT -6
Keno Davis is a fine coach, but I don't know if he deserves another chance, and quite frankly I don't know if he will get it. coaches who get fired shortly after moving to a new program, who haven't built up a solid resume of winning, often have to start from scratch or move on. I would give Chad a first chance before I'd give Keno, Todd, Jeff, Bruce or any of the following a 2nd chance. As far as only targeting coaches who run a "clean program" that would be my #1 priority as well, but its not as common as many of you think. Billy Packer on HBO's Real Sports said that college basketball is dirtier now than it has ever been, and I believe Packer on that. The cash handshakes and pay for play exists, it however no longer guarantees you success at this level. College basketball probably is dirtier than ever with the AAU scene. However Billy Packer is an idiot who often states his opinion as fact. Did he actually give any proof of how it was dirtier? Yeah, that damn movie Blue Chips was really far fetched! |
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Post by Pantherholic on Apr 19, 2011 17:26:33 GMT -6
Think it's tough to leapfrog Butler? How about trying to bypass Duke, North Carolina, Florida State, Clemson, Boston College, Virginia Tech, Maryland, North Carolina State, Virginia ... Ok I know Miami isn't exactly a dream job for most coaches but its not like it'd take a miracle to contend with at least half this field. How has BC benefitted from the move to the ACC? How does Clemson and Virginia strike fear into the hearts of others? Maryland isn't a powerhouse nowadays either. I think Miami fans would be content if they compete for a top 4-5 spot and make the tourney with an occasional upset of Duke or NC which is a reasonable expectation. Here's a fact - With 10 seconds left of each game against UNC this season, the score was tied. The ability to close games out was arguably the Achilles heel for the team this year as they wilted in approx. 4 conference games and their conf. tourney loss. NCST has arguably become a worse job than Miami considerable the delusional fanbase and seemingly anti-athletics friendly AD. Its not exactly rocket science to figure out why Herb Sendek left a few years ago (and yes I know Debbie Yow wasn't at NCST then). |
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Post by uwm97 on Apr 19, 2011 17:40:57 GMT -6
So where are we in this thing? Is Jeter in Miami? Is he back from Miami? Is he en route to Miami?
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Post by formerseasonticketholder on Apr 19, 2011 17:53:19 GMT -6
Is Coach Jeter the "dean" of Horizon League coaches?
I think all the other jobs in the conference may have turned over during his tenure. Unless maybe Homer Drew and his son trading the Valpo job back and forth gives him/them the nod.
If he is the most senior coach I wonder who is second and how long their tenure is?
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Post by gman2 on Apr 19, 2011 17:55:23 GMT -6
For this past season at least, Miami had a several close losses. Had Miami won those close loses they easily surpass every in the ACC except for Duke, UNC and Florida State. So, it's not like everyone in the ACC is going to be heads and shoulders above Miami.
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Post by motowntitan on Apr 19, 2011 18:07:32 GMT -6
Is Coach Jeter the "dean" of Horizon League coaches? I think all the other jobs in the conference may have turned over during his tenure. Unless maybe Homer Drew and his son trading the Valpo job back and forth gives him/them the nod. If he is the most senior coach I wonder who is second and how long their tenure is? Homer started back again at Valpo in 2003-04, making him the Dean. |
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Post by formerseasonticketholder on Apr 19, 2011 18:22:57 GMT -6
Is Coach Jeter the "dean" of Horizon League coaches? I think all the other jobs in the conference may have turned over during his tenure. Unless maybe Homer Drew and his son trading the Valpo job back and forth gives him/them the nod. If he is the most senior coach I wonder who is second and how long their tenure is? Homer started back again at Valpo in 2003-04, making him the Dean. Hey, thanks Motown, I was trying to look that up and saw your answer. I wonder if Homer is the exception that proves the rule, the coach who becomes the face of a program in this league and stays there. Brad Stevens could do that at Butler is he stays, but he's awfully young to stay in one spot for the rest of his career. In any case if Coach Jeter is offered the job in Miami and decides to take it I'll wish him the best and thank him for his years of service at UWM. I think he has put the team into a position to ride out a coaching change in a much better way than when he arrived. And maybe an ammicable parting of the ways could lead to a 2 for 1 with Miami?! That would certainly be a nice compliment to the games already under contract with the in-state BCS schools. |
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Post by Pantherholic on Apr 19, 2011 18:39:16 GMT -6
And maybe an ammicable parting of the ways could lead to a 2 for 1 with Miami?! That would certainly be a nice compliment to the games already under contract with the in-state BCS schools. I'd prefer a 2-1 w/ Miami if the away games are in the middle of the conference season. |
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Post by formerseasonticketholder on Apr 19, 2011 18:55:32 GMT -6
And maybe an ammicable parting of the ways could lead to a 2 for 1 with Miami?! That would certainly be a nice compliment to the games already under contract with the in-state BCS schools. I'd prefer a 2-1 w/ Miami if the away games are in the middle of the conference season. That would also be in the middle of winter wouldn't it?!  ;D  For once Panther fans may be cheering for a road game! |
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Post by iceice on Apr 19, 2011 19:08:20 GMT -6
Keno isn't comfortable doing the "shaking hands and kissing babies" aspect of being a head coach... It's one of the biggest reasons he was let go at PC.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Apr 19, 2011 19:19:04 GMT -6
I think all the other jobs in the conference may have turned over during his tenure. I think all the other jobs in the conference have turned over during Miami's flirtation with Jeter. Meanwhile, the J-S reports ... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! |
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Post by gman2 on Apr 19, 2011 20:16:33 GMT -6
Meanwhile, the J-S reports ... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! It's possible the Journal has been asked to not report on this. |
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