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Post by JG Panthers on Apr 19, 2011 7:02:41 GMT -6
It's not about whether he was successful. Did he run a clean program? That's the reason we won't sniff around him.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Apr 19, 2011 7:06:35 GMT -6
If Chad wows Costello in the same way that Shaka Smart wowed the AD at VCU, I say that he should be given a chance with his own players in a place that he loves.
If he was 10 years older and still had never been given a shot at a head coaching gig, many here would wonder what was wrong with him.
Smart, Brad Stevens and Keno Davis all had to be given a chance in order to prove themselves. For the record, Chad's older than each of the aforementioned coaches when they started.
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Post by PantherLou on Apr 19, 2011 8:20:38 GMT -6
If (and its still a BIG IF) Rob does decide to take the Miami job, I certainly do think that Chad Boudreau would be an excellent candidate. IMO, Chad possesses three qualities that would make him an excellent head coach:
1. He's remarkably personable and certainly understands and enjoys the "shaking hands and kissing babies" element of the job.
2. He is a top notch recruiter. Put him in the head coach position and I guarantee that he gets access to players that we never considered before.
3. He knows what he is not good at. He's brutally honest about his own and the team's faults. He doesn't sugar coat anything and I will bet anything that he will surround himself with the type of assistants who are strong in the areas where he may be weak.
I think its a moot point, because I don't believe that Jeter is going to end up in Miami. If he does, however, I think we could do a lot worse than Chad Boudreau.
Also, does anyone think that we are going to offer our next head coach anywhere near the salary and package that Rob is making? I sure don't, and that eliminates a lot of the names being thrown out there.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Apr 19, 2011 8:34:53 GMT -6
Lou, I just don't understand why Jeter doesn't lunge at the chance to lead the (historically) 12th-best program in the ACC (4-6 all time in the NCAA tournament).
Heck, in any given every third or fourth year, the 'Canes could finish in the upper half of the league and maybe one day even draw more than 5,000 fans per game (last year's average attendance was 4,140 for 17 home dates).
Since permanently joining Division 1 in 1985, the 'Canes have had five 20-win seasons; since going full-fledged D-1 in 1990, the Panthers have had seven.
Think it's tough to leapfrog Butler? How about trying to bypass Duke, North Carolina, Florida State, Clemson, Boston College, Virginia Tech, Maryland, North Carolina State, Virginia ...
But if Rob wants this challenge, I certainly support him and wish him well.
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Post by magicman on Apr 19, 2011 8:44:13 GMT -6
The Magicman is no dummy. Who will be the next head coach? Will Boudreau or Bidlingmyer take over? Will they bring in a no name and stir up the pot? Didnt Robert say he was not going anywhere after he turned down Bradley? Now hes thinking South Beach? Do you believe in Magic? The Magic Man does!
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Post by uwmplanner on Apr 19, 2011 8:46:46 GMT -6
Based on his track record I am not sold on Keno Davis. He was at Drake for one season. When he was an assistant there the 4 seasons before he took over were 54-66 (25-48 MVC). Took over they went 28-5(15-3 MVC) and lost in the first round of the tourney. Since he left Drake they have been mediocre in the MVC so he really didn't build anything and that one great season looks flukey to me. In 3 seasons at Providence he was 46-50 (18-36 BigE). He might not have gotten enough time at Providence but his team won 10 games in Big East play the first year then only won 4 each the next 2 seasons. |
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Post by magicman on Apr 19, 2011 9:30:51 GMT -6
Based on his track record I am not sold on Keno Davis. He was at Drake for one season. When he was an assistant there the 4 seasons before he took over were 54-66 (25-48 MVC). Took over they went 28-5(15-3 MVC) and lost in the first round of the tourney. Since he left Drake they have been mediocre in the MVC so he really didn't build anything and that one great season looks flukey to me. In 3 seasons at Providence he was 46-50 (18-36 BigE). He might not have gotten enough time at Providence but his team won 10 games in Big East play the first year then only won 4 each the next 2 seasons. The last time the Magicman messed around with Keno, he lost. The Magicman is just sayin'. ;D |
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Apr 19, 2011 9:45:04 GMT -6
I'm not for Keno to coaching at UWM. Just pointed out that him winning at Drake got him the PC job. |
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Post by panthersteve on Apr 19, 2011 10:10:54 GMT -6
Although disappointed when Bruce left and would be if Rob moved on now certainly can not begrudge him. Lets face it. We have a nice mid major program going but ACC, Miami, more money etc...hard to blame anyone for seriously considering. At least Rob is not taking over from a highly successful prior regime and nowhere to go but up. If their administration is committed to building it the right way he could be an excellent choice for them. As far as successors it is interesting to hear the buzz on Chad. Really have not had much of a chance to interact with him but he sounds like a magnetic personality, strong X's and O's guy, quality person, solid recruiter....very interesting...anyway we are on the right track and whatever way it goes we will be fine.
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Post by PantherU on Apr 19, 2011 10:42:58 GMT -6
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Post by buppie05 on Apr 19, 2011 13:50:53 GMT -6
Keno Davis is a fine coach, but I don't know if he deserves another chance, and quite frankly I don't know if he will get it. coaches who get fired shortly after moving to a new program, who haven't built up a solid resume of winning, often have to start from scratch or move on. I would give Chad a first chance before I'd give Keno, Todd, Jeff, Bruce or any of the following a 2nd chance.
As far as only targeting coaches who run a "clean program" that would be my #1 priority as well, but its not as common as many of you think. Billy Packer on HBO's Real Sports said that college basketball is dirtier now than it has ever been, and I believe Packer on that. The cash handshakes and pay for play exists, it however no longer guarantees you success at this level.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Apr 19, 2011 14:00:38 GMT -6
Wow, buppie. That's a cadre of coaches that covers all corners of the character spectrum.
I think that should Rob leave, Rick must sit down with perhaps three candidates and make his decision off that. There's no time now for a search-and-screen-committee dog-and-pony show.
Time is of the essence with all of this. I'm rooting for a quick resolution one way or the other.
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Post by uwmplanner on Apr 19, 2011 14:05:43 GMT -6
Keno Davis is a fine coach, but I don't know if he deserves another chance, and quite frankly I don't know if he will get it. coaches who get fired shortly after moving to a new program, who haven't built up a solid resume of winning, often have to start from scratch or move on. I would give Chad a first chance before I'd give Keno, Todd, Jeff, Bruce or any of the following a 2nd chance. As far as only targeting coaches who run a "clean program" that would be my #1 priority as well, but its not as common as many of you think. Billy Packer on HBO's Real Sports said that college basketball is dirtier now than it has ever been, and I believe Packer on that. The cash handshakes and pay for play exists, it however no longer guarantees you success at this level. College basketball probably is dirtier than ever with the AAU scene. However Billy Packer is an idiot who often states his opinion as fact. Did he actually give any proof of how it was dirtier? Also when you say Bruce, I hope you don't mean Bruce Pearl. He is still facing charges for unethical conduct from the NCAA and I don't think anybody knows what his fate will be. I would guess that he will not be coaching anytime soon. |
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Post by uwm97 on Apr 19, 2011 14:40:41 GMT -6
Whoever thinks Keno Davis either doesn't deserve or won't get another coaching job simply doesn't know what the hell they're talking about.
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Post by buppie05 on Apr 19, 2011 15:19:02 GMT -6
Whoever thinks Keno Davis either doesn't deserve or won't get another coaching job simply doesn't know what the hell they're talking about. +1 I should have explained that better. I was referring to Keno getting another job right away on caliber with either of his last two jobs. I don't doubt that he will get hired on somewhere, but likely at an Eastern Michigan type situation. If I were Keno I would take a few years off and enjoy the money. |
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