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Post by uwmplanner on Apr 18, 2011 8:10:03 GMT -6
What was it that convinced you he was looking for a way out "from year one"? Was it the fact that he immediately turned down a high-major offer AFTER YEAR ONE? Or was it the substantial offer he just turned down to coach somewhere else? There's dumb, and then there's dumb. Let's please not continue this line of debate. C'mon....if he wants to be at UWM so bad, why even look for new job after new job? Whether he turns them down is not the issue. The issue is that he's continually looking to get out....or he's looking to scare UWM into extending him and/or giving him a raise. Just out of curiosity do you know that Jeter contacted these schools or are these schools contacting him? Alot of people have jobs and if somebody made me an offer I would at least listen and consider it. I don't think Rob contacted Bradley then turned them down and it certainly seems Miami is pursuing Rob and not the other way around. So I guess I don't see it as he is looking to get out because if thats what he wanted he would be in Peoria right now. |
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Post by JG Panthers on Apr 18, 2011 8:15:11 GMT -6
Not to mention, you really can't compare Rob to Brad Stevens. Stevens has led his team to two straight national championship appearances, enjoys a hefty paycheck, and is from the Indianapolis area. Who would want to leave that situation? Rob has every right to entertain offers from different schools. It's much better than the alternative. Say we had Jimmy Collins as our coach and he never heard from another school about an opening. It would probably mean we didn't perform well enough as a team, no? I'll take our current situation with Rob over the alternative any day.
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Post by JG Panthers on Apr 18, 2011 8:23:37 GMT -6
I know when Brownell was constantly being mentioned with other jobs that other coaches used that against us in recruiting. They constantly told recruits you don't want to sign with WSU, their coach won't be around by the time you graduate. It also hurts building your fan-base. Casual fans and bandwagon fans find it hard to support someone they know is always looking on the other side of the fence. These are very valid points. Still, I'll take the success and subsequent interest in our coach over the alternative... |
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Post by yuhayden on Apr 18, 2011 8:34:48 GMT -6
Not to mention, you really can't compare Rob to Brad Stevens. Agreed. |
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Post by PANTHERfan on Apr 18, 2011 8:55:00 GMT -6
I'm not sure that people should be so quick to dismiss Big D's remarks. RJ's apparent interest in moving on doesn't bode well on a couple significant fronts.
1. Recruiting. It doesn't look attractive to potential (or incoming) recruits to have a coach actively looking at different positions.
2. Existing Fan Base. RJ hasn't exactly built rabid fan support over the years. In fact, many on this board were calling for his head early this season (myself included to some degree). What he's doing now isn't going to thrill anyone that's still not sold on him as a coach.
For better or worse, he's put himself (and UWM) in a difficult position.
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Post by JG Panthers on Apr 18, 2011 8:58:19 GMT -6
Not to mention, you really can't compare Rob to Brad Stevens. Agreed. Nice...Taking words out of context. Thanks... |
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Post by BBFran on Apr 18, 2011 9:09:28 GMT -6
Get realistic, folks. Every coach who doesn't have a seven figure contract at a high major school is going to listen when one of those jobs knocks on his door. Any of you would listen if you were in the same position. Four months ago the near consensus on this board -- even though his record had improved three consecutive years -- was that Rob was close to the edge. That's how perilous these jobs are. If nothing else, the fact you are being courted by other programs keeps your administration on its toes when it comes to contract terms and program support.
And that aside, as I have said before, name all the coaches who have been at their schools for ten years. It's a short list. The nature of it is that coaches leave.
This will work itself out very soon. Frankly we are in a better position than most mids. We will attract good candidates when the time comes to replace Rob, whether that's now, next year or in five years.
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Post by JG Panthers on Apr 18, 2011 9:14:25 GMT -6
This will work itself out very soon. Frankly we are in a better position than most mids. We will attract good candidates when the time comes to replace Rob, whether that's now, next year or in five years. This is a really good point Fran. Anyone who says this isn't an attractive position is out of their mind. Let's just think about the last 3 head coaches here. Bo Ryan: moved on to Wisconsin. Bruce Pearl: moved on to Tennessee. Rob Jeter: has received heavy interest from two BCS programs now and could be moving on to Miami. The proof is in the pudding...We should NOT settle for our next head coach, whenever we'll need one. |
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Post by tyrunner0097 on Apr 18, 2011 9:27:21 GMT -6
This will work itself out very soon. Frankly we are in a better position than most mids. We will attract good candidates when the time comes to replace Rob, whether that's now, next year or in five years. This is a really good point Fran. Anyone who says this isn't an attractive position is out of their mind. Let's just think about the last 3 head coaches here. Bo Ryan: moved on to Wisconsin. Bruce Pearl: moved on to Tennessee. Rob Jeter: has received heavy interest from two BCS programs now and could be moving on to Miami. The proof is in the pudding...We should NOT settle for our next head coach, whenever we'll need one. Provided that the new recruits don't back out if RJ leaves...That is what I am most worried about if he goes, that all of the awesome guys we have grabbed will want to leave also. |
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Post by ghostofdylan on Apr 18, 2011 9:30:38 GMT -6
Four months ago?
Seriously, I completely agree with Fran on this.
In this profession, they're either building a statue in your honor or chasing you out the door. Sometimes in the same season.
We're going to be absolutely fine. The only thing that remotely concerns me is the timing.
For the record, I don't think Kyle, James, Evan or J.J. are going anywhere no matter what happens.
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Post by skrapheap on Apr 18, 2011 9:56:06 GMT -6
There's a difference between being thought of as a viable candidate for an open coaching position because you are doing a good job in your current position, and actively applying for open jobs (a la Tan Tommy Crean), whether you are trying to get more money from your current employer or actually trying to get a "better" job elsewhere.
i'm not close to the program, so i have not heard anything which would tell me whether Coach Jeter's situation more closely resembles the former or the latter. Judging by the comments on this board, i'd guess it's the former situation.
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Post by PantherU on Apr 18, 2011 10:21:54 GMT -6
I'll put this stupid baby to bed.
1. Rob was contacted by Jamie Pollard for the ISU job. He pulled his name upon receiving a big extension by Bud.
2. Rob was contacted by the search firm running the Bradley process this season. Met and talked to the school in Chicago, was offered the job at $700,000 (a 289k increase) and...turned them down.
3. Rob was contacted by Dayton and was not offered because it was a simple "Sorry, not interested."
4. Miami's President and new AD go way back with Rob Jeter, and because it's a substantial increase, a high-major conference and the support from administration, he's listening. I can't fault him for that. They have the facilities and the weather to make a lot of players happy.
The fact of the matter remains that it's a difficult job; the fans don't want him, yet for the most part don't show up for the games. It's in the ACC, where you're struggling to get into the tournament; not as much as the Horizon, but Miami's been to the tournament one less time than we have since they joined the conference.
Let's not forget, Tony Bennett went to a similarly difficult job at Virginia and has yet to make waves. Oliver Purnell LEFT Clemson, a far better basketball program, because the ACC is too tough to put teams in the tournament. So is the Big East, but volume makes DePaul ready.
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damasa
Sophomore
KFC: Kick From Chuck. What else do you need?
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Post by damasa on Apr 18, 2011 10:50:05 GMT -6
You all need head punches.
The end.
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Post by tyrunner0097 on Apr 18, 2011 11:13:36 GMT -6
You all need head punches. The end. Was that you talking or Chuck Norris? |
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Post by tyrunner0097 on Apr 18, 2011 11:24:59 GMT -6
4. Miami's President and new AD go way back with Rob Jeter, and because it's a substantial increase, a high-major conference and the support from administration, he's listening. I can't fault him for that. They have the facilities and the weather to make a lot of players happy. The fact of the matter remains that it's a difficult job; the fans don't want him, yet for the most part don't show up for the games. It's in the ACC, where you're struggling to get into the tournament; not as much as the Horizon, but Miami's been to the tournament one less time than we have since they joined the conference. I see your point there...I guess if Bud were an AD at a big university, he would do the same thing...But if Miami wants to win now, RJ is NOT the guy for that job...he is more of a slow but sure builder... |
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