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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2011 11:28:09 GMT -6
Why would he discuss it with Todd Lickliter. His situation at Iowa is nothing like the situation at Miami. Iowa is a horrible job. Miami could be a great job for the right coach. They are willing to pay a good salary. They are in the ACC. They have great new facilities. They are in a great city that should be easy to entice kids to come visit. I don't think Jeter is the right coach for the job, but it is a potentially very good job. Why is Iowa a horrible job? Have you been to Iowa?  |
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Post by hoosiercane05 on Apr 17, 2011 12:55:38 GMT -6
The majority of our fan base is extremely wet behind the ears when it comes to college basketball. We are a "results" based bunch and the fact that Jeter is twelve over .500 in six seasons overall, with one tourney appearance is really turning off a lot of people. In fact, a lot of folks are stating that you guys have taken a major step back as a program since Pearl left. What I see is a coach who comes from a great coaching pedigree when you talk about Bo Ryan and has gone 61-43 in conference (where it counts). He's won the league twice in six years. He only had a losing record once in conference and that was when you guys had 16 new players. What our fan base doesn't seem to understand is that Jeter had to essentially build your program up from scratch again after Pearl left.
To compare, Frank Haith had a .384 winning percentage in the ACC and got a contract extension two years ago. He went to the tourney once out of a league that sends 5-6 teams every year. He's been at or over .500 in the league once in seven years at that was the year we actually went dancing. Honestly, I dont care how many games you win out of conference, show me what you do late in the season when it's really on the line. Haith couldn't win on the road or late in the year, but had three-twenty win seasons because he loaded up on cupcakes earlier. Jeter's teams seem to have gotten better as the season progressed and that is the sign of good coaching.
Frank Martin is the name that everyone wants but our president won't touch him for several reasons. We are forever under the NCAA microscope so our athletic program is squeaky clean and must continue to be. If you aren't going to poach another high-major coach (who is really out there that is going to leave for our job?), you go mid-major, and Jeter makes a lot of sense. I don't think our fans will be thrilled with a hire like him, but if the guy wins games, all will be quickly forgotten.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Apr 17, 2011 13:32:03 GMT -6
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Post by Super King on Apr 17, 2011 16:22:00 GMT -6
Why is Iowa a horrible job? Have you been to Iowa? Eh, Iowa athletics have quite a bit of pride and tradition behind them, and not just because of their football heritage. Their wrestling program is obviously world-class, and their women's basketball program was a nationally ranked at-large participant in the NCAA Tournament last year. espn.go.com/womens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2294/iowa-hawkeyesPlus there's the fact that Iowa City is nothing like the rest of the state. It's far more akin to Madison than one would think. |
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Post by PantherNation on Apr 17, 2011 18:44:39 GMT -6
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Post by tyrunner0097 on Apr 17, 2011 18:56:09 GMT -6
Something tells me that he is still not going anywhere...he would've given a sign already that he was going to be leaving...
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Post by Big D on Apr 17, 2011 19:06:11 GMT -6
If I were a UWM fan, I don't think I'd be a bit sad if RJ bolts for Miami. It's clear he doesn't want to be at UWM any longer. Even if he couldn't get the job at Iowa State years ago, he used them and played UWM's fear of losing another coach to get a bigger contract. Then he looks at the Bradley job and ultimately says he's not interested. Now he's looking at Miami. I forget if he's been rumored for other jobs in the past. No matter what happens, it's clear he doesn't want to be at UWM. If he doesn't get the Miami job, he'll "pull his name from consideration" and spout off some nonsense that he always wanted to be at UWM.
He's ready to move on. I want a coach that wants to be at my school...at mid-major programs like ours, we can get a coach like that for a good 5 years....then they want to move on...so see ya later. If you don't want to be here, I don't want you here.
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Post by A Statement By SHAUN on Apr 17, 2011 19:10:23 GMT -6
If I were a UWM fan, I don't think I'd be a bit sad if RJ bolts for Miami. It's clear he doesn't want to be at UWM any longer. Even if he couldn't get the job at Iowa State years ago, he used them and played UWM's fear of losing another coach to get a bigger contract. Then he looks at the Bradley job and ultimately says he's not interested. Now he's looking at Miami. I forget if he's been rumored for other jobs in the past. No matter what happens, it's clear he doesn't want to be at UWM. If he doesn't get the Miami job, he'll "pull his name from consideration" and spout off some nonsense that he always wanted to be at UWM. He's ready to move on. I want a coach that wants to be at my school...at mid-major programs like ours, we can get a coach like that for a good 5 years....then they want to move on...so see ya later. If you don't want to be here, I don't want you here. Just curious...what makes you think that Rob Jeter doesn't want to be at UWM anymore? Why do you think he wants to move on? |
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Post by tyrunner0097 on Apr 17, 2011 19:36:56 GMT -6
If I were a UWM fan, I don't think I'd be a bit sad if RJ bolts for Miami. It's clear he doesn't want to be at UWM any longer. Even if he couldn't get the job at Iowa State years ago, he used them and played UWM's fear of losing another coach to get a bigger contract. Then he looks at the Bradley job and ultimately says he's not interested. Now he's looking at Miami. I forget if he's been rumored for other jobs in the past. No matter what happens, it's clear he doesn't want to be at UWM. If he doesn't get the Miami job, he'll "pull his name from consideration" and spout off some nonsense that he always wanted to be at UWM. He's ready to move on. I want a coach that wants to be at my school...at mid-major programs like ours, we can get a coach like that for a good 5 years....then they want to move on...so see ya later. If you don't want to be here, I don't want you here. Dude...I can't even begin to tell you what a HUGE load of baloney and cheese that is... |
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Post by gman2 on Apr 17, 2011 19:53:54 GMT -6
Something tells me that he is still not going anywhere...he would've given a sign already that he was going to be leaving... Why would he give a sign? Giving a sign doesn't make any difference whether or not he goes. As far as media coverage gos, so he met with the AD, that doesn't mean anything. I personally don't believe he is going. |
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Post by tyrunner0097 on Apr 17, 2011 20:10:18 GMT -6
Something tells me that he is still not going anywhere...he would've given a sign already that he was going to be leaving... Why would he give a sign? Giving a sign doesn't make any difference whether or not he goes. As far as media coverage gos, so he met with the AD, that doesn't mean anything. I personally don't believe he is going. I'll give you that, but I do agree with you that he is not leaving...if he was losing a big group of seniors or a big part of his team, I would be thinking otherwise, but nonetheless... HE IS STAYING |
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Post by milwsport on Apr 17, 2011 21:14:22 GMT -6
I think what Big D is saying is that RJ has now talked to at least two other schools(that we know of) about their coaching jobs. Some people might say, that if he wasn't at all interested in leaving he would do what Brad Stevens has been doing at Butler and just say "No thanks."
Other people might say that its a business. If you have a chance to substantially increase your income and job prestige, you are going to at least talk about it.
But you are also going to weigh the risks regarding the job. Is it doable? Will the boss have patience? Will I be able to get another decent job if I fail? All of those things have to be taken into consideration.
And in this case, RJ also has to keep in mind that the fans there don't think he's a good hire. He will have a very short time to prove himself. And as we all know, many sports fans would rather be right even if it means their team doesn't do well.
Like the guy who called a local sports station and said he was ticked the Packers beat the Bears, because that meant Ted Thompson wasn't going to get fired anytime soon and he thinks Thompson is an idiot.
Point is that even if its offered to RJ he may not want it.
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Post by Big D on Apr 18, 2011 0:09:37 GMT -6
If I were a UWM fan, I don't think I'd be a bit sad if RJ bolts for Miami. It's clear he doesn't want to be at UWM any longer. Even if he couldn't get the job at Iowa State years ago, he used them and played UWM's fear of losing another coach to get a bigger contract. Then he looks at the Bradley job and ultimately says he's not interested. Now he's looking at Miami. I forget if he's been rumored for other jobs in the past. No matter what happens, it's clear he doesn't want to be at UWM. If he doesn't get the Miami job, he'll "pull his name from consideration" and spout off some nonsense that he always wanted to be at UWM. He's ready to move on. I want a coach that wants to be at my school...at mid-major programs like ours, we can get a coach like that for a good 5 years....then they want to move on...so see ya later. If you don't want to be here, I don't want you here. Dude...I can't even begin to tell you what a HUGE load of baloney and cheese that is... Whatever dude....you can think it's cheese all you want....I'm just telling you how I see it as an outsider. Jeter has done a pretty good job at UWM. But, since season 1, he has been looking for a way out. No, he never acted on it....maybe he never got an opportunity to act on it.....but to me, it seems like he's always looking to move on, and when it falls through, he tries again next year. And, I have no problem with a guy bettering himself...making more money....taking care of his family...all of that. It just seems like RJ was doing it from the very beginning, which would have bothered me if he was UIC's coach. |
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Post by Super King on Apr 18, 2011 1:17:11 GMT -6
Dude...I can't even begin to tell you what a HUGE load of baloney and cheese that is... Whatever dude....you can think it's cheese all you want....I'm just telling you how I see it as an outsider. Jeter has done a pretty good job at UWM. But, since season 1, he has been looking for a way out. No, he never acted on it....maybe he never got an opportunity to act on it.....but to me, it seems like he's always looking to move on, and when it falls through, he tries again next year. And, I have no problem with a guy bettering himself...making more money....taking care of his family...all of that. It just seems like RJ was doing it from the very beginning, which would have bothered me if he was UIC's coach. What was it that convinced you he was looking for a way out "from year one"? Was it the fact that he immediately turned down a high-major offer AFTER YEAR ONE? Or was it the substantial offer he just turned down to coach somewhere else? There's dumb, and then there's dumb. Let's please not continue this line of debate. |
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Post by Big D on Apr 18, 2011 6:42:47 GMT -6
Whatever dude....you can think it's cheese all you want....I'm just telling you how I see it as an outsider. Jeter has done a pretty good job at UWM. But, since season 1, he has been looking for a way out. No, he never acted on it....maybe he never got an opportunity to act on it.....but to me, it seems like he's always looking to move on, and when it falls through, he tries again next year. And, I have no problem with a guy bettering himself...making more money....taking care of his family...all of that. It just seems like RJ was doing it from the very beginning, which would have bothered me if he was UIC's coach. What was it that convinced you he was looking for a way out "from year one"? Was it the fact that he immediately turned down a high-major offer AFTER YEAR ONE? Or was it the substantial offer he just turned down to coach somewhere else? There's dumb, and then there's dumb. Let's please not continue this line of debate. C'mon....if he wants to be at UWM so bad, why even look for new job after new job? Whether he turns them down is not the issue. The issue is that he's continually looking to get out....or he's looking to scare UWM into extending him and/or giving him a raise. |
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