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Post by crazyfred on Jul 6, 2006 18:44:06 GMT -6
records?...number of players in the NBA and recruiting only show that you should have been THAT much better than us..turns out, you weren't Except that you're playing Youngstown State, UIC, Cleveland State, etc while we are playing G'Town, UCONN, Cincy, Louisville, etc Again...silly comparison...absolutely silly. |
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Post by crazyfred on Jul 6, 2006 18:44:42 GMT -6
The only way to show who is better is to meet on the court. Oh wait, when we both went to the NIT, MU didn't want to play us, so we went to Boise State and had to deal with THEIR refs. And oh wait, MU decided it was much better to play Florida A & M then UWM the following year. Oh wait, MU decided it was much better to play Fairfield the year after that (or was it Sacred Heart when thinking of big College BB powers I get confused). And yes, they had a decent win at Pitt, which was ranked 4th at the time, but didn't finish anywhere near 4th by the end of the year. Course we'd have loved a crack at Pitt, but they (along with most other teams in the top 25) don't seem to want to play us. Hmmm wonder why that is. So now it's a Boise State referee conspiracy...I think I've heard it all. |
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Post by crazyfred on Jul 6, 2006 18:47:04 GMT -6
Aside from the Final Four year, I believe (I maybe wrong) '94 was the last year Marquette even won a game in the tournament. So in the past 12 years they have won 1 more tournament game than some lowly mid majors from Milwaukee. I do remember Croshere dropping like 38 on them when Providence beat them by like 20 in '97.  And you would be wrong....again. We won in 1996 against Monmouth and then lost in the second round against Arkansas. It's all about who you draw and how you play THAT DAY. Just ask Michigan State this year, or North Carolina, or anyone else that lost earlier than expected. That's the nature of the tournament. Word has it that the new agreement might be delayed a year....maybe you guys will only play us after Dominic James goes pro.  |
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Post by famouspnthrfan on Jul 6, 2006 19:34:14 GMT -6
I apologize for being wrong about your tourney run...however...I was at the game when they lost by 33...it was sad, and it showed, because the tourney IS a one and done as you pointed out, that they may have been a fluke. Also, "Except that you're playing Youngstown State, UIC, Cleveland State, etc while we are playing G'Town, UCONN, Cincy, Louisville, etc"...we don't play Youngstown St., UIC and Cleveland State in the NCAA tourney...we beat teams that you can't...which is my entire argument...maybe you guys only offered us a crappy 4 for 1 after we lost 7 seniors...and don't give me bs about the ball being in our court the whole time...because you're wrong
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Post by Pantherholic on Jul 6, 2006 20:56:54 GMT -6
Except that you're playing Youngstown State, UIC, Cleveland State, etc while we are playing G'Town, UCONN, Cincy, Louisville, etc b4 last year, how often were you playing teams like G'Town and UCONN? sure as hell wasn't in the non-conf. schedule. is this coming from Rosiak or Crean? we all know how reliable they've been on this story so far  |
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Post by Big D on Jul 6, 2006 21:51:26 GMT -6
Except that you're playing Youngstown State, UIC, Cleveland State, etc while we are playing G'Town, UCONN, Cincy, Louisville, etc Again...silly comparison...absolutely silly. Please don't ever mention UIC in the same sentence as CSU and YSU again...thank you... People on the Marquette board have already shown a lack of knowledge when it comes to the HL....and that's without comments like this... As much as I hate UWM (and you can ask anyone here), I side with them. Given their status as a mid-major, their success in the past 5 years has been solid. You can't compare MU and UWM really because it's apples and oranges...majors vs. mid-majors. They don't have the resources MU does nor do they have the luxury of relying on one or two big conference wins to get hem in the tourney (Syracuse getting in the tourney last year was one of the biggest jokes of an at-large bid I've ever seen). If I were Jeter and Co., I wouldn't play you guys...especially with the type of contract that will likely have to be signed...I'd play the "MU's scared" card until you agreed to an even series... |
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Post by FTA1982 on Jul 6, 2006 22:00:00 GMT -6
Aside from the Final Four year, I believe (I maybe wrong) '94 was the last year Marquette even won a game in the tournament. So in the past 12 years they have won 1 more tournament game than some lowly mid majors from Milwaukee. I do remember Croshere dropping like 38 on them when Providence beat them by like 20 in '97. And you would be wrong....again. We won in 1996 against Monmouth and then lost in the second round against Arkansas. It's all about who you draw and how you play THAT DAY. Just ask Michigan State this year, or North Carolina, or anyone else that lost earlier than expected. That's the nature of the tournament. Word has it that the new agreement might be delayed a year....maybe you guys will only play us after Dominic James goes pro. Oh, I forgot that huge win vs Monmouth. Fine you guys have won 5 games to UWM's 3. |
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Post by milwsport on Jul 6, 2006 22:27:01 GMT -6
Look all ribbing and arguements aside. Marquette is a good school with a very fine BB tradition. UWM is also a good school building a tradition.
What you MU fans don't understand is that while have much to be proud of in the past, the most recent past indicates Panther fans have more to be proud of. That there is NO evidence that any deal has been on the table before now. EVEN CREAN ISN'T CLAIMING OTHERWISE.
What gets us is that MU has avoided playing the Milwaukee Panthers and now suddenly offers to play us except we dont' get squat out of it, while MU rakes in tens of thousands and that offer just happens to be made after we graduate 7 seniors. Talk to the average sports fan in Milwaukee and believe me they aren't fooled. Neither are we.
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Post by Pantherholic on Jul 6, 2006 23:36:32 GMT -6
2005-2006: 22-9 (12-4 Hor.) Horizon League Tourney Champs NCAA Tournament Appearance wow don't know how i missed this post. NCAA Tournament Appearance? Why don't you accurately update this to NCAA Tournament - 2nd round. you must've forgotten that unlike MU, we could actually beat 'Bama and beat them when they were good. i know Jean Felix is really good, afterall he averaged an intimidating 9 ppg this past year. remember, w/out Wade, MU is only a flash in the pan in the Big Dance. |
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Post by JimmyLemke on Jul 7, 2006 2:12:00 GMT -6
2005-2006: 22-9 (12-4 Hor.) Horizon League Tourney Champs NCAA Tournament Appearance wow don't know how i missed this post. NCAA Tournament Appearance? Why don't you accurately update this to NCAA Tournament - 2nd round. you must've forgotten that unlike MU, we could actually beat 'Bama and beat them when they were good. i know Jean Felix is really good, afterall he averaged an intimidating 9 ppg this past year. remember, w/out Wade, MU is only a flash in the pan in the Big Dance. Yeah, and Diener is the "Little Engine that Couldn't" |
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Post by TBone on Jul 7, 2006 7:03:50 GMT -6
Maybe it's just me, but who cares?
None of us have any control over whether Marquette plays UWM. It's in the hands of the Athletic Departments and staffs. All this MU only did this and UWM only beats CSU is stupid.
I realize things are slow now, but sheesh...
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Post by crazyfred on Jul 7, 2006 12:21:58 GMT -6
I apologize for being wrong about your tourney run...however...I was at the game when they lost by 33...it was sad, and it showed, because the tourney IS a one and done as you pointed out, that they may have been a fluke. Also, "Except that you're playing Youngstown State, UIC, Cleveland State, etc while we are playing G'Town, UCONN, Cincy, Louisville, etc"...we don't play Youngstown St., UIC and Cleveland State in the NCAA tourney...we beat teams that you can't...which is my entire argument...maybe you guys only offered us a crappy 4 for 1 after we lost 7 seniors...and don't give me bs about the ball being in our court the whole time...because you're wrong I'm sorry, how can you make that statement? You played Oklahoma last year...we didn't. How do you know if we could beat them or not since the teams didn't play each other? In fact, the only tournament recently where both teams were part of the same tournament and played a common opponent was the NIT a few years ago. You LOST to Boise State and then we BEAT the SAME Boise State team 3 days later. Otherwise, your "argument" is nothing but pure hyperbole. No two teams have the same draw and play the same teams which is exactly why it's a different path for every team and so much luck is involved. Are you going to suggest that you are a better team than Kansas because the last two years you have gone farther in the NCAA tournament then the Jayhawks (even though they BEAT you head to head). Are you really going to suggest this? |
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Post by crazyfred on Jul 7, 2006 12:23:33 GMT -6
Except that you're playing Youngstown State, UIC, Cleveland State, etc while we are playing G'Town, UCONN, Cincy, Louisville, etc b4 last year, how often were you playing teams like G'Town and UCONN? sure as hell wasn't in the non-conf. schedule. is this coming from Rosiak or Crean? we all know how reliable they've been on this story so far Well before last year in the previous 4 years we had 2 seasons were we finished in the top 35 schedule strength in the country and the other 2 in the top 75....meanwhile you finished two of those years in the 200's and two of them in the high 100's. Do you really want to play the schedule game...really? |
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Post by crazyfred on Jul 7, 2006 12:24:49 GMT -6
And you would be wrong....again. We won in 1996 against Monmouth and then lost in the second round against Arkansas. It's all about who you draw and how you play THAT DAY. Just ask Michigan State this year, or North Carolina, or anyone else that lost earlier than expected. That's the nature of the tournament. Word has it that the new agreement might be delayed a year....maybe you guys will only play us after Dominic James goes pro. Oh, I forgot that huge win vs Monmouth. Fine you guys have won 5 games to UWM's 3. We've actually won 32 NCAA games to your 3  |
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Post by crazyfred on Jul 7, 2006 12:28:51 GMT -6
Look all ribbing and arguements aside. Marquette is a good school with a very fine BB tradition. UWM is also a good school building a tradition. What you MU fans don't understand is that while have much to be proud of in the past, the most recent past indicates Panther fans have more to be proud of. That there is NO evidence that any deal has been on the table before now. EVEN CREAN ISN'T CLAIMING OTHERWISE. What gets us is that MU has avoided playing the Milwaukee Panthers and now suddenly offers to play us except we dont' get squat out of it, while MU rakes in tens of thousands and that offer just happens to be made after we graduate 7 seniors. Talk to the average sports fan in Milwaukee and believe me they aren't fooled. Neither are we. Milwsport....did we offer to play you JUST THIS YEAR after you lost 7 guys or was it a 5 year deal? If you're telling me that with all of this proud tradition and the great recent past you have that you are incapable of getting back to where you are in that 5 year period....or is that what you are saying? It's not a one year deal so your argument falls flat. Rumor is that it's a 50-50 deal we will even play this year so your argument falls even flatter if we don't play this year and the 4 for 1 starts the year after. By the way, I'm happy for your success. I think we have plenty to be proud of in our Final Four appearance only 3 years ago and a top 4 finish in the Big East driven primarily by freshmen. |
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