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Post by Pantherholic on Jul 5, 2006 22:48:08 GMT -6
my favorite Wade moment was when he freed the Jews from slavery in Egypt.
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Post by milwsport on Jul 6, 2006 0:00:28 GMT -6
I thought that was Charleston Heston ;D
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Post by muwarrior2007 on Jul 6, 2006 0:19:24 GMT -6
The truth hurts, doesn't it boys?
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Post by famouspnthrfan on Jul 6, 2006 1:15:56 GMT -6
only when you provide stats that don't tell the whole story..such as your postseason losses. While you did make it to the final four...a very worthy feat...you got there by beating only one ranked team (Missouri, #25) and then lost by 33 to Kansas. The aforementioned Tulsa squad left you reeling in '02, the loss to Iowa State in the NIT quarters, and most recently the upset against Alabama...
Our losses were beginning in 02-03 to #20 Notre Dame by a blown layup, in 03-04 to a Boise State by 3 (who you later disposed of, yada yada), in 04-05 to eventual National Champion runner up Illinois after beating highly ranked Alabama, (who was a better team when we beat them than when you lost to them since they lost their top 3 leading scorers from the year before) and Boston College. And most recently, losing in the second round to eventual National Champion Florida Gators
If you think you've had a more successful the last five years overall, I think you're wrong. Besides the Final Four finish (which shouldn't go unnoted) you have nothing to show but your record...We've had a more succesful postseason history in the past few years whether you'd like to believe it or not.
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Post by muwarrior2007 on Jul 6, 2006 1:29:57 GMT -6
uhhh.... do the schools Kentucky and Pitt ring a bell...? Kentucky when Marquette played them was #1 in the nation, riding at least a 20 game win streak. Pitt when Marquette played them was #4 in the nation.
You keep believing you have had a better last 5 yrs, but records, number of players in the NBA, and most stats would prove differently...
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Post by happynelson on Jul 6, 2006 5:19:08 GMT -6
One of the most uncompetitive final four games in history. Ffollowed up by not making the NCAA's the next season. Another unique distinction. Flash in the pan. No DWade. No success.
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Post by pantherdon on Jul 6, 2006 6:57:45 GMT -6
Technically UWM's 123-60 is 67.2%. Clearly better than Marquette's feeble 126-62 67.0%
Sorry I'm so late with this.
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Post by famouspnthrfan on Jul 6, 2006 9:07:40 GMT -6
records?...number of players in the NBA and recruiting only show that you should have been THAT much better than us..turns out, you weren't
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Post by milwsport on Jul 6, 2006 9:47:59 GMT -6
The only way to show who is better is to meet on the court. Oh wait, when we both went to the NIT, MU didn't want to play us, so we went to Boise State and had to deal with THEIR refs. And oh wait, MU decided it was much better to play Florida A & M then UWM the following year. Oh wait, MU decided it was much better to play Fairfield the year after that (or was it Sacred Heart when thinking of big College BB powers I get confused).
And yes, they had a decent win at Pitt, which was ranked 4th at the time, but didn't finish anywhere near 4th by the end of the year. Course we'd have loved a crack at Pitt, but they (along with most other teams in the top 25) don't seem to want to play us. Hmmm wonder why that is.
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Post by muwarrior2007 on Jul 6, 2006 12:07:05 GMT -6
Actually, I was referring to the run to the Final Four in 2003 when we played 3 teams in the top 25, 2 of which finished in the top 10 (Pitt and UK).
As far as playing you guys, as far as everything I've heard, there were plenty of offers to play you, your coach (Pearl) and AD (Haidet) just got cold feet, like they are now... You can blame Bo Ryan for all of this anyways as he cancelled the series in the first place when we were just doing buy games with you all.
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Post by pantherdon on Jul 6, 2006 12:43:51 GMT -6
You heard wrong.
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Post by milwsport on Jul 6, 2006 13:01:20 GMT -6
Aww come on man. Didn't you know? Bo is all powerful. He not only cancelled our games, he cancelled the MU-GB series too. And when Cave Man called me a couple of years ago to ream out for writing a letter to the JS supporting a UWM-MU series, he forced him not to just tell me that an offer was on table. Bo is a very powerful man.
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Post by FTA1982 on Jul 6, 2006 15:57:23 GMT -6
Aside from the Final Four year, I believe (I maybe wrong) '94 was the last year Marquette even won a game in the tournament. So in the past 12 years they have won 1 more tournament game than some lowly mid majors from Milwaukee. I do remember Croshere dropping like 38 on them when Providence beat them by like 20 in '97.
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Post by crazyfred on Jul 6, 2006 18:40:58 GMT -6
only when you provide stats that don't tell the whole story..such as your postseason losses. While you did make it to the final four...a very worthy feat...you got there by beating only one ranked team (Missouri, #25) and then lost by 33 to Kansas. The aforementioned Tulsa squad left you reeling in '02, the loss to Iowa State in the NIT quarters, and most recently the upset against Alabama... Our losses were beginning in 02-03 to #20 Notre Dame by a blown layup, in 03-04 to a Boise State by 3 (who you later disposed of, yada yada), in 04-05 to eventual National Champion runner up Illinois after beating highly ranked Alabama, (who was a better team when we beat them than when you lost to them since they lost their top 3 leading scorers from the year before) and Boston College. And most recently, losing in the second round to eventual National Champion Florida Gators If you think you've had a more successful the last five years overall, I think you're wrong. Besides the Final Four finish (which shouldn't go unnoted) you have nothing to show but your record...We've had a more succesful postseason history in the past few years whether you'd like to believe it or not. OK, now that is funny. We beat #1 Kentucky (SEC champ) We beat top ten Pittsburgh (Big East Champ) We beat ranked Missouri We also beat 3 single digit seeds, 2 of them ranked higher than us. To give you an example, Wisconsin's "great run" two years ago they beat ZERO single digit seeds and all of them were ranked LOWER then they were. The Tournament is a one and done scenario and since you have no idea how we would have faired against Oklahoma this year or how you would have faired against Alabama THIS year, it's impossible to compare any run to another run. In fact, it's completely silly. Each team has a different path and none can be the same. But please, for someone taking on another poster for lack of facts when you pulled that boner in your post....wow!
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Post by crazyfred on Jul 6, 2006 18:43:01 GMT -6
One of the most uncompetitive final four games in history. Ffollowed up by not making the NCAA's the next season. Another unique distinction. Flash in the pan. No DWade. No success. Just like Louisville didn't make the NCAAs last year following the Final Four the year prior. Just as Indiana has done that TWICE, just as NC State twice, just as Kentucky and Kansas have also done, as has Minnesota. You know, it happens...imagine that. And yes, it wasn't a competitive Final Four...coming from a UWM fan that is precious. It's like having a Tampa Bay Devil Rays fan critique the Houston Astros for their World Series performance.
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