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Post by bball30 on Feb 18, 2006 16:29:30 GMT -6
Little crabby after the loss? Relax for a bit. By the way it's only a game, and not to mention an irrelevant one at that. Get a clue
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Post by uwm97 on Feb 18, 2006 16:34:31 GMT -6
If you think this game was irrelevant then you're helpless. But that's to be expected since you apparently can't recognize what a full-court press looks like.
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Post by pnthr97 on Feb 18, 2006 16:39:01 GMT -6
Yes, a loss is disappointing. But, this game meant absolutely nothing. If anything, a win would've meant the difference between a 13 and 12 seed - big deal - we still need to get there. I was glad to see some guys step up a bit. This was the best I've seen Avo play all year. Al Hanson's never going to be a scoring threat, but he ran the offense well while in.
Bottom line, our "seniors" - and right now I use that term loosely - didn't get the job done. For a good portion of the game, AT showed more heart sitting on the bench than Joah and Chris did while playing. That is incredibly disappointing.
I understand that it must be frutsrating for these seniors to have to play a completely different style of basketball than they're used to, but the way some of them are handling it is beyond immature - they're showing a complete lack of respect.
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Post by bball30 on Feb 18, 2006 16:43:38 GMT -6
What exactally did this game mean? At large chances are already shot. Yes it would have been an emotional booster to win, however, all that really matters is the conference tourney. Detroit on tuesday is huge, today however is not.
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Post by uwm97 on Feb 18, 2006 16:43:58 GMT -6
Losing is never good, it doesn't matter if it's an exhibition game or the Bracketbuster. Ask the players and Jeter if this game meant something. A win would have really helped this team coming off a tough loss to UIC. Now, instead of having some momentum after a victory over a quality opponent, they go into a must-win game against Detroit reeling a bit. Their confidence can't be very good right now. IMO, this game meant a lot.
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Post by teddyp00 on Feb 18, 2006 16:44:19 GMT -6
Not saying we should accept that Jeters gets out coached, but to act like it is never going to happen to a rookie coach is just being ignorant.
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Post by teddyp00 on Feb 18, 2006 16:47:06 GMT -6
Losing is never good, it doesn't matter if it's an exhibition game or the Bracketbuster. Ask the players and Jeter if this game meant something. A win would have really helped this team coming off a tough loss to UIC. Now, instead of having some momentum after a victory over a quality opponent, they go into a must-win game against Detroit reeling a bit. Their confidence can't be very good right now. IMO, this game meant a lot. I agree 100%. Not sure why so many people are saying this game meant nothing. Maybe in terms of getting into the tourny it did not mean anything, but in many other regards it was a meaningful game. |
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Post by DunneDeal on Feb 18, 2006 16:48:05 GMT -6
I think the team played as well as they could. Not having AT out there hurt big time. also i agree with whoever said the refs just need to be consitant, if you want to call 50 fouls a game fine, but dont call some and then later dont call any. Also there should be a jump ball, not just a reset, do it like the NBA.
Jason...THANK YOU!
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Post by uwm97 on Feb 18, 2006 16:50:31 GMT -6
Also there should be a jump ball, not just a reset, do it like the NBA. Jason...THANK YOU! Yeah, I can't stand the possession rule. Dumbest rule in college basketball outside of being able to jump out of bounds and call a timeout in mid-air. I hate those rules. |
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Post by bball30 on Feb 18, 2006 16:50:47 GMT -6
I am not condoning losing. All I am saying is that this game (per the tourney) was irrelevant. Whats to say they don't come out on tuesday all pissed off after the loss and put a 20 point win on Detroit? It goes both ways, and in a game with your clear senior leader, and top reserve out, I would think UWM will take the loss in stride.
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Kingsbury
Junior
Sadly, no longer in the "Fear 42" Fan Club!!!
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Post by Kingsbury on Feb 18, 2006 16:50:49 GMT -6
I couldn't agree more pnthr97. Last year when Tucker was "flirting" was flirting with the NBA, he said the next coach has to understand that I want to be the man. Hey Joah, be the man then!!! McCoy played a hell of a game but the rest of the team mailed it in.
As for Jeter, we are going to have to accept the fact that he will be learning on the job. I know it is frustrating to have a coach that never had a head coaching job,handed the keys to the castle, even though he had no track record, but that's what Bud wanted. Of course IMO, Jeter came cheap and that is why he was hired, but we can't do anything about that now and have to hope he is a fast learner.
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Post by aknowsense on Feb 18, 2006 17:05:20 GMT -6
I don't agree that Jeter was outcoached, his players played poorly and turned the ball over far too easy and when they were w/in reach they rushed shots and tried to take the game into thier own hands. Watching the game on TV they would show Jeter after a wild pass or dumb shot and he would have that sick look on his face or a smile along with the WTF are you doing look to his team. I think this team plays hard and with a lot of heart but you can't give up the ball so easy and expect to win against a quality opponent. Back to the outcoaching argument you can draw up the plays execute them in practice but if your players go cowboy during the games it makes it hard, I'm not saying the players do it every play but today there were two good chances to make it a one possesion game and UWM blew both of them w/rushed shots and bad passing.
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Post by uwm97 on Feb 18, 2006 17:06:51 GMT -6
Here's my only beef with Jeter - I don't think he's getting outcoached that badly from an X's and O's standpoint, or when or when not to call timeouts, etc. It's this damn press. We unleashed it against Cleveland St. and Youngstown St. and ran those teams off the floor. It was effective vs. UIC - miserable free-throw shooting, along w/ UIC hitting huge shots down the stretch, were the reasons we lost that game. In fact, the press kept us in that game. So today we have Missouri St. A nice team with nice guard play. But there's no way they could have handled our pressure for a full 40 minutes. They most definitely had diffuclty with it the last few minutes of the game. It's as if Jeter doesn't trust it sometimes, which I don't know why he wouldn't.
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Post by aknowsense on Feb 18, 2006 17:14:14 GMT -6
I really think today that Jeter looked at Mo State's three guard set and didn't want to press like that the whole game, and I tend to agree with his theory on that. I think they wouldn've dealt w/it better than most teams and gotten a ton of easy baskets.
Although I disagree with how long Coach Jeter waited to unleash the press.
The only other reason I can think of is that today the Panthers weren't that deep due to injuries and wearing the team out w/the huge game w/Detroit may have been in the back of Coach Jeter's mind??
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Post by aknowsense on Feb 18, 2006 17:27:47 GMT -6
Looking at the box score these couple things jump out at me:
4-21 (19%) from 3pt land, Yuck brother J says Yuck.
19-26 (73%) from the free throw stripe that's better keep it up.
39-30 Panthers winning rebound battle with 18-9 advantage on the offensive glass, lots of opportunities created today UWM missed a ton of second chance points. That will not happen every game.
7 total assists as a team that's pathetic.
22 turnover (8 over average that's the ballgame)
6,660 in attendence.
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