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Post by mqtgoldenchickens on Apr 7, 2005 7:42:53 GMT -6
No head coaching experience is a big one in my book. Each of the last 2 coaches had plenty of it. I think our program is at the point were we can/should hire a proven head coach.
If Jeter is good, he will still have to stay for quite a few years to prove himself, so that is a positive.
I would like to hear Bud comment on why they went in this direction and what did/didn't happen with Doherty, Dunlap, etc.
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Post by uwmfan on Apr 7, 2005 7:57:39 GMT -6
Not sold on Robbie either. Like him as a person, and it's great he's known as a recruiter, but being a head coach somewhere is big in my book as well. It's a completely different story when you're driving the ship. Clearly he has the ability and knowledge, but leadership is a different measure. At this point in the program we don't have the luxury of allowing someone with no head coaching experience "find their stride" as a leader. Maybe I'm underestimating his role in recent years. Again, I like Rob; other questions would be who he'll bring as assistants......Greg Gard isn't going to leave. Saul Philips is in North Dakota. Maybe Doug Lewis is available....  |
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Post by dylanrocks on Apr 7, 2005 10:25:22 GMT -6
What about Ken Johnson? Silk Moore? Others?
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Post by NeedMoreFans on Apr 7, 2005 10:49:55 GMT -6
I have mixed emotions, but I am warming up to the idea of Jeter. Maybe it's just a way of accepting it. He has his pros & cons. The cons being no head coaching experience, hardly known outside of SE Wisconsin, and this hire will make little news outside of the state. Hardly known outside SE Wisconsin? He was one of the top recruiters for UW, which means he probably knows or has at least met nearly every high school coach in the state. I mean, look at how many WI recruits UW gets. |
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Post by mqtgoldenchickens on Apr 7, 2005 11:20:05 GMT -6
Hardly known outside SE Wisconsin? He was one of the top recruiters for UW, which means he probably knows or has at least met nearly every high school coach in the state. I mean, look at how many WI recruits UW gets. He is going to have to continue recruit at the Juco level in places like Paris Texas. Don't over value the number of in state players that can play at the current level of the program. It's not like there are that many, look at the rosters. |
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Post by victorepanther on Apr 7, 2005 12:27:51 GMT -6
Elliot Johnson, Alex Davis, Tyray Petty, Ricky Franklin, Tony Mane, Trevon Hughes, Jerry Smith, Mitchell Carter, Dupree Fletcher, Torre Johnson, D'Angelo Jackson.
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Post by uwmfan on Apr 7, 2005 12:33:01 GMT -6
Just ran into Mark Pancratz near the Union, he's about as up to date as we are....he'd seen the word on ESPN.com too.
I also asked about "end of year" team gathering, and it sounds like next week Thursday evening at Harry's the Athletic Dept. is trying to put something together. Not sure if it'll just be a team/AD function or open to public supporters. I'm guessing not open to the public and that the university will still come up with a way to celebrate the successes.
Mark, if you're out there....thanks again for the run!
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Post by NeedMoreFans on Apr 7, 2005 12:43:23 GMT -6
But look at the WI players on the D-I teams in the state...at UW: Wilkinson, Chambliss, Hanson, Butch, Steimsma, Chappell, Flowers. At UWM: Tucker, Tigert, Wright, Hanson. At MU: Diener and Wes Matthews is coming in. UWGB: Rhode. WI can produce some pretty good basketball players, and Jeter knows how to tap into them. Granted, we probably won't get the Butch's of the state, but you never know when a Clayton Hanson type player will come around.
Though I agree Jeter will have to recruit at the JuCo level. Looking at the rosters, all teams have a lot of juco's.
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Post by pnthr30 on Apr 7, 2005 13:02:15 GMT -6
But look at the WI players on the D-I teams in the state...at UW: Wilkinson, Chambliss, Hanson, Butch, Steimsma, Chappell, Flowers. At UWM: Tucker, Tigert, Wright, Hanson. At MU: Diener and Wes Matthews is coming in. UWGB: Rhode. WI can produce some pretty good basketball players, and Jeter knows how to tap into them. Granted, we probably won't get the Butch's of the state, but you never know when a Clayton Hanson type player will come around. Though I agree Jeter will have to recruit at the JuCo level. Looking at the rosters, all teams have a lot of juco's. I hear what you are saying, and agree, but would we even want Butch?  At this point, I would argue ....... no.  |
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Post by NeedMoreFans on Apr 7, 2005 13:04:29 GMT -6
Having Mono didn't help him at all in the later part of the season.
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Post by mwu on Apr 7, 2005 13:19:27 GMT -6
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Post by NeedMoreFans on Apr 7, 2005 13:26:03 GMT -6
Ok, this is getting ridiculous...people need to stop putting information they get from "sources" unless they know for certain that the information they are posting is a fact. Also, if your "source" is a good source, why be afraid to name them? (this also applies to the media)
I mean, I could say that a "source" told me that Tom Izzo is so fed up with the media at Michigan State he is considering stepping down and has shown interst in the UWM job, and people could take it as being fact.
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Post by Hack on Apr 7, 2005 13:31:25 GMT -6
Also, if your "source" is a good source, why be afraid to name them? (this also applies to the media) Because that source could lose his/her job if named and is a member of the athletic department ... it's a give and take relationship the media has with the teams they cover. |
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Post by pnthr30 on Apr 7, 2005 13:31:55 GMT -6
Lets look at this from Robs point of view for a minute........On one hand, he could continue to be second in charge of Big10 team (albeit a perenial power that made it to the Elite 8) that is losing a fair amount, and be in a situation that, although comfortable, will not change for quite a few years (in other words, Bo is not going anywhere anytime soon)....or he could be the head coach (at 35 years old) of an up and coming mid-major that has been at the top of the HL the past few years, ohh yea, the team is loaded and is fresh off a Sweet 16 run, he is familiar with the athletic department, facilities, administration, ..........and this new job will pay about 3 times more than he is currently making.
Doesn't seem like a hard decision to me. All assistant coahces have aspirations to be the head somewhere.........stepping into the current UWM situation is a great opportunity for anyone, much less someone who does not have any head coaching experience........they basically have a one year "trial" period built in. They can get their feet wet being a head coach with some very experienced players, not to mention ones that are not bad players. If this was in fact offered to Rob, I just don't see how he could pass it up - an opportunity like this doesn't come along often. On top of all this, if he really has his sights set on the UW job after Bo leaves, he is still right in UW's backyard - and will have hopefully proved himself worthy to be Bo's replacement. I just don't see how Rob loses in this deal.
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Post by NeedMoreFans on Apr 7, 2005 13:36:25 GMT -6
Sorry Hack, didn't think too much when I was writing that post. I'm just frustrated that there have been so many "sources" coming forward saying this and that. A week ago, a "source" said Matt Dohrety was going to be our coach. A "source" told ESPN that a possible candidate for the job was Buzz Peterson. After all, how would ESPN know anything when our own newspaper hasn't reported that he has accepted the job? Give credit to the Journal because they haven't jumped on the rumor mill. They have gone straight to Bud to get their info.
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At this point, I would argue ....... no. 
