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Post by reginaldkdwight on Mar 4, 2022 13:45:37 GMT -6
Still waiting for Jimmy to come back with McCollums salary request. Hes still my top choice and if any coach out there could be a BP like impact hire its him. Proven winning HC at the D2 level seems to be a great indicator of D1 success. It atleast shows he can coach the game.
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Post by BBFran on Mar 4, 2022 13:54:35 GMT -6
I have never met or talked to Shay. Maybe he's a fine guy and potentially a good head coach. It sounds like he took a brave stand at ETSU and I applaud him for that, whether it was out of sincere solidarity with his players or a slightly calculated effort to keep them on his side so they could function together. If that's why he lost his job there, it's bullsh*t and ETSU can go....
All that said, I just want to note that the idea that our AD would consider any coach from the Bruce Pearl coaching tree is both hilarious and maddening to any of us who heard her pontificate in her early years here about how the program had to be run. Of course, when you are trying to pull any lever to hold on to a job you have totally messed up, you might decide that your standards could, you know, be relaxed a bit.
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SRT4driver
Junior
We Are MILWAUKEE! And I'm all about accountability, unlike '5th Placer' Jeter apologists.
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Post by SRT4driver on Mar 4, 2022 14:29:37 GMT -6
Maybe he's a fine guy? He's definitely proven he's more than that.
Geez, everyone is letting their biases affect their views here!
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Post by Spirit of Bruce on Mar 4, 2022 15:27:13 GMT -6
If our list was limited to Prohm, McCollum, Darner, Henderson, and Shay, that would be a damn good list.
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Post by BBFran on Mar 4, 2022 15:35:19 GMT -6
Maybe he's a fine guy? He's definitely proven he's more than that. Geez, everyone is letting their biases affect their views here! Relax Jason. As I said, I don’t know him. Does it concern me that he was with one of the only coaches whose behavior was so bad he got a show cause order from the NCAA for a long time as his assistant? You bet, but maybe he had nothing to do with the problems, and maybe he would never operate that way. On the other hand, he’s really got no track record other than as an assistant. For whatever reason his HC year at ETSU was kind of an aborted launch. (By the way, for those thinking his basketball style is Pearl’s style, think again. His team was ranked 281st in tempo at ETSU.). So looking at him fairly, he simply doesn’t meet the key criteria that I thought most people had settled on: successful HEAD coach. Of course, no matter who gets hired, they will be choosing to work for our AD. That’s probably the biggest red flag of all from the standpoint of good judgment. |
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Post by Cactus Panther on Mar 4, 2022 17:29:53 GMT -6
If our list was limited to Prohm, McCollum, Darner, Henderson, and Shay, that would be a damn good list. I would be happy with any one of these, but will not get my hopes very high. Steve Prohm - I think he is too good for the Panther program. I expect a high major to come knocking on his door. Ben McCollum - Hard to say if he can parlay D2 coaching success at his alma matter to a D1 program that needs to rebuild from the ground up. He may be the hot commodity that will have several other programs attempt to woe him. Linc Darner - I doubt AB would seriously consider someone that departed her former employer and fellow conference member on bad terms. Eric Henderson - As others have noted, why would he take a lateral move to a more challenging program? A more prominent program will likely lure him. The attraction of coming "home" would have to require some urgent, special circumstance. Jason Shay - I would much rather prefer someone who has been a "winner" as a head coach. The program needs a salesman as much as a head coach. From the You Tube videos I watched, he does not present as well as the others. As has also been stated here, at least he once observed that first hand and should understand that is what it takes. My guess is that the hire will be Shay or more likely, someone we have not given any consideration to. My hope is one of the other four slip through the cracks and end up here. |
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Post by 73withharoldlee on Mar 4, 2022 19:18:34 GMT -6
The real prospects might still be out there as the season ends. This list is darn good without considering a coach who might be let go because some big donor is po’d about something. As much as many despise AD Braun, she has been around the block a few times and must have some people in her world that know something we the fanatics don’t. There seems to be others like Omar Lowery and even Jeff Capel who might take a chance to build a winner in a great city and building to play basketball. We should not undersell ourselves and find a great coach. It has happened before and hopefully there is only one way and that is up. Fingers crossed to buy season ticket again. Go Panthers!
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Post by 73withharoldlee on Mar 4, 2022 19:20:15 GMT -6
The real prospects might still be out there as the season ends. This list is darn good without considering a coach who might be let go because some big donor is po’d about something. As much as many despise AD Braun, she has been around the block a few times and must have some people in her world that know something we the fanatics don’t. There seems to be others like Omar Lowery and even Jeff Capel who might take a chance to build a winner in a great city and building to play basketball. We should not undersell ourselves and find a great coach. It has happened before and hopefully there is only one way and that is up. Fingers crossed to buy season ticket again. Go Panthers!
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Post by steveisback on Mar 4, 2022 19:25:37 GMT -6
Good post Cactus,,,devoid of bitterness....how about the successful young coach at Nicholls State also
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2022 19:51:19 GMT -6
Hasn't been mentioned yet, but if she isn't part of overseeing this huge AD hiring, she'll definitely be a part of overseeing the tenure, vetting assistants and other MBB support staff, possibly may have influence in budget, who knows? Anyways, it's an accomplished woman. Graduate of (you guessed it, our perennial suitor for preternatural stuff like Ed McCants and PBS and PBJ: "Northwestern"  ), as well as- and I think this is important for basketball reasons- Marquette. If she is anything like Sophia Minnert, she is mosdef going to fight for our right to Party and Dance in March again: madison365.com/makda-fessahaye-named-to-head-hr-at-uw-milwaukeeAnd the cherry on the Sunday? She very well could NOT have a cush political relationship with our current AD, get wise to her games, and ultimately oversee her reassignment or non-renewal. I'm not rooting for Braun to fail, ok I guess I am. Happy to eat crow pie as always, but regardless of better results I can't trust AD Braun after how shady the Jeter firing went down. 1 thing is abundantly clear and is probably the best news we've had since the Wright State comeback in the last HLT: we are getting a chance to rebuild and become relevant again. I honestly thought after PBS firing there would be cryptic talk (in Braun's statements the JS article) of dropping to D-II. To her credit(?), she did make some statements that at least give one the impression that the Uni is committed to the Milwaukee Arena for the long haul and that there is still an expectation that we return to the hoops we've all been missing since ~March 2016 (maybe the AD got a bundle from COVID funds or something- that's where PBS firing $$ came from!  ). |
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Post by giannisplease on Mar 4, 2022 20:26:34 GMT -6
Let me say this twice without flinching…
John Brannen
John Brannen
Dude dominated Horizon league when he took over NKU who was still in era of going DI… at UC won conference, then Covid hits and a new AD in second year wanted someone else. Have two buddies who work in athletics at UC who said Brannen got screwed… dude has won his whole life. He would be a HOMERUN hire… we can’t go assistant way.
Seriously check out Brannen succes in horizon
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Mar 4, 2022 20:42:08 GMT -6
Interesting name for your first ever post. 🤔
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Post by Cactus Panther on Mar 4, 2022 20:42:50 GMT -6
Hasn't been mentioned yet, but if she isn't part of overseeing this huge AD hiring, she'll definitely be a part of overseeing the tenure, vetting assistants and other MBB support staff, possibly may have influence in budget, who knows? Anyways, it's an accomplished woman. Graduate of (you guessed it, our perennial suitor for preternatural stuff like Ed McCants and PBS and PBJ: "Northwestern" ), as well as- and I think this is important for basketball reasons- Marquette. If she is anything like Sophia Minnert, she is mosdef going to fight for our right to Party and Dance in March again: madison365.com/makda-fessahaye-named-to-head-hr-at-uw-milwaukeeAnd the cherry on the Sunday? She very well could NOT have a cush political relationship with our current AD, get wise to her games, and ultimately oversee her reassignment or non-renewal. I'm not rooting for Braun to fail, ok I guess I am. Happy to eat crow pie as always, but regardless of better results I can't trust AD Braun after how shady the Jeter firing went down. 1 thing is abundantly clear and is probably the best news we've had since the Wright State comeback in the last HLT: we are getting a chance to rebuild and become relevant again. I honestly thought after PBS firing there would be cryptic talk (in Braun's statements the JS article) of dropping to D-II. To her credit(?), she did make some statements that at least give one the impression that the Uni is committed to the Milwaukee Arena for the long haul and that there is still an expectation that we return to the hoops we've all been missing since ~March 2016 (maybe the AD got a bundle from COVID funds or something- that's where PBS firing $$ came from!  ). Not sure what impact the new HR head would have on hiring the new men's basketball coach Victor, but maybe next time Jimmy makes an FOIA request HR can get it right the first time.😉 |
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Post by giannisplease on Mar 4, 2022 20:48:36 GMT -6
Just sick of watching us lose. I would do a Lavell assistant, last time we had success. I just don’t see us going assistant route. Brannen has zero ncaa violations and no abuse of players, just want a proven head coach winner. Other one be Drew but he is already taken… Brannen be best money
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Post by bizzork on Mar 4, 2022 20:52:21 GMT -6
Let me say this twice without flinching… John Brannen John Brannen Dude dominated Horizon league when he took over NKU who was still in era of going DI… at UC won conference, then Covid hits and a new AD in second year wanted someone else. Have two buddies who work in athletics at UC who said Brannen got screwed… dude has won his whole life. He would be a HOMERUN hire… we can’t go assistant way. Seriously check out Brannen succes in horizon This seems like low-hanging fruit. Brannen was fired for cause, for running overly strenuous "conditioning" drills that were meant to be punitive and resulted in a player needing medical attention, then attempting to intimidate players into not cooperating with the UC investigation. Plus, Brannen provided extra benefits to another player. One would think ideally the Panthers could find a coach that doesn't have that baggage attached to them, as there can be a pretty large pool of coaches not fired for cause. If the school is not going to be having a diverse hire, it seems like the least they could do is find someone not previously fired for cause. |
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