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Post by peterpanther on Feb 13, 2022 14:17:03 GMT -6
I just told you. Read it again. What's an example of this?
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Post by Spirit of Bruce on Feb 13, 2022 14:19:44 GMT -6
I just told you. Read it again. What's an example of this? Go back under whatever rock you crawled out from under a few days ago. You've added nothing to the conversation. Give Amanda my regards at the office tomorrow.
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Post by peterpanther on Feb 13, 2022 14:22:30 GMT -6
What's an example of this? Go back under whatever rock you crawled out from under a few days ago. You've added nothing to the conversation. Give Amanda my regards at the office tomorrow. The characterization quoted above is false.
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SRT4driver
Junior
We Are MILWAUKEE! And I'm all about accountability, unlike '5th Placer' Jeter apologists.
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Post by SRT4driver on Feb 13, 2022 20:54:50 GMT -6
As the very new poster you are, the easiest way to show you are posting in good faith, and have no ulterior motives, is to simply share your identity. Every regular poster/member of this board knows the identity of all other regular posters. And despite all of the heated disagreements we've all had over the years, to my knowledge no one on this board has ever doxxed or harassed anyone. And knowing the character of all my fellow board members, that will never happen. So if you desire any credibility on here, the ball is in your court Jason Kuks
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Post by reginaldkdwight on Feb 13, 2022 21:56:11 GMT -6
As the very new poster you are, the easiest way to show you are posting in good faith, and have no ulterior motives, is to simply share your identity. Every regular poster/member of this board knows the identity of all other regular posters. And despite all of the heated disagreements we've all had over the years, to my knowledge no one on this board has ever doxxed or harassed anyone. And knowing the character of all my fellow board members, that will never happen. So if you desire any credibility on here, the ball is in your court Jason Kuks Come on bro I dont need anyone knowing I spent money on season tickets.
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SRT4driver
Junior
We Are MILWAUKEE! And I'm all about accountability, unlike '5th Placer' Jeter apologists.
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Post by SRT4driver on Feb 13, 2022 22:37:40 GMT -6
As the very new poster you are, the easiest way to show you are posting in good faith, and have no ulterior motives, is to simply share your identity. Every regular poster/member of this board knows the identity of all other regular posters. And despite all of the heated disagreements we've all had over the years, to my knowledge no one on this board has ever doxxed or harassed anyone. And knowing the character of all my fellow board members, that will never happen. So if you desire any credibility on here, the ball is in your court Jason Kuks Come on bro I dont need anyone knowing I spent money on season tickets.
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Post by peterpanther on Feb 14, 2022 7:43:36 GMT -6
I agree that the Chancellor, the UWM administration, and the athletics department has failed UWM.
Do I believe there should be change in leadership and personnel of the following?
Chancellor? Yes UWM administration? Yes Athletic Department? Yes
I’ve pointed out that the root cause of the failure of leadership at UWM is the UW System Board of Regents. The Board of regents appoints the Chancellor and the Chancellor and UWM administration aren't being held to account by the Board of Regents.
If there's any facts that are disputable from my previous posts, please post them.
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Post by uwmfansince1997 on Feb 14, 2022 8:44:56 GMT -6
I disagree with your characterization of my posts. What excerpts from my posts have I made excuses for the UWM administration? The UWM administration has been an abject failure. The UWM administration is a direct result of the UW System Board of Regents. The UW System Board of Regents appointed the UWM chancellor and the Board of Regents isn't holding the chancellor and his administration to account. There needs to be accountability! I wouldn't expect you to agree. Every time you pass the buck on to the Board of Regents, you are giving Mone a pass. The Badger-dominated Board of Regents couldn't give two sh*ts about Milwaukee. They're too busy approving $80 million dollar renovations to Camp Randall to worry about Mark Mone. And your geriatric puppet of a governor isn't going to do anything about it, either. However, Mone CAN do something about this Athletic Dept., but there's a problem:
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Post by uwmfansince1997 on Feb 14, 2022 8:55:42 GMT -6
"The Badger-dominated Board of Regents couldn't give two sh*ts about Milwaukee. They're too busy approving $80 million dollar renovations to Camp Randall", I couldn't agree with you more on how all they care about is anything U of Wisconsin. We can chop ourselves apart with our hometown issues and disagreements, but money changes everything, everything! You can't deny that. If we could go to a conference some wishful day that shares legit tournament money, then we'll have a tiny bit of bargaining power. Let the critiquing of this post begin, as you all know, that's what we do best, 'bash' each other's point-of-views/disagreements.
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Post by davedome on Feb 14, 2022 8:56:12 GMT -6
I agree that the Chancellor, the UWM administration, and the athletics department has failed UWM. Do I believe there should be change in leadership and personnel of the following? Chancellor? Yes UWM administration? Yes Athletic Department? Yes I’ve pointed out that the root cause of the failure of leadership at UWM is the UW System Board of Regents. The Board of regents appoints the Chancellor and the Chancellor and UWM administration aren't being held to account by the Board of Regents. If there's any facts that are disputable from my previous posts, please post them. Can you name a time with any of the state schools, that an athletic department or team was so bad that the Regents stepped in when the Chancellor refused to make a change? I can name numerous bad programs, some on the brink of shutting down, and the Regents never stepped in because successful hires weren't being made by the AD and/or Chancellor.
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Post by BBFran on Feb 14, 2022 14:34:20 GMT -6
Bingo, dave. The fixation that peterpanther has on the Regents is a red herring. It doesn't matter that they have the ultimate power. They are not going to make or cause any change of the Milwaukee Chancellor or Milwaukee AD because of the condition of the Milwaukee athletic program. It doesn't matter whether this is because of their conspiratorial pro Madison bias (count me very skeptical) or because the athletic programs at the various state schools are legitimately or illegitimately just not on their to-do list. Short of a Larry Nass-like horrorshow (God forbid) I can't see the regents ever having any direct involvement.
The realpolitik of this situation is that Mark Mone will be the chancellor until he resigns or retires. It's up to him, whether we like it or not. My theory is that with everything else on his plate he's simply not very interested in athletics and above all doesn't want to be bothered by it. So the folks in the Pavilion know they can just float down the hallways in an accountability-free zone. The results have been absolutely predictable.
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Post by peterpanther on Feb 15, 2022 7:50:15 GMT -6
Bingo, dave. The fixation that peterpanther has on the Regents is a red herring. It doesn't matter that they have the ultimate power. They are not going to make or cause any change of the Milwaukee Chancellor or Milwaukee AD because of the condition of the Milwaukee athletic program. It doesn't matter whether this is because of their conspiratorial pro Madison bias (count me very skeptical) or because the athletic programs at the various state schools are legitimately or illegitimately just not on their to-do list. Short of a Larry Nass-like horrorshow (God forbid) I can't see the regents ever having any direct involvement. The realpolitik of this situation is that Mark Mone will be the chancellor until he resigns or retires. It's up to him, whether we like it or not. My theory is that with everything else on his plate he's simply not very interested in athletics and above all doesn't want to be bothered by it. So the folks in the Pavilion know they can just float down the hallways in an accountability-free zone. The results have been absolutely predictable. The notion that Mark Mone will be the chancellor at UW-Milwaukee until he resigns or retires is precisely the problem. What metrics are Mark Mone being evaluated on by the UW System Board of Regents? Mark Mone was appointed as the chancellor of UW-Milwaukee by the UW System Board of Regents in December, 2014. Here’s the undergraduate enrollment statistics at UW-Milwaukee from the Fall 2015 semester through the Fall 2021 semester. The change in undergraduate enrollment at UW-Milwaukee from the Fall 2015 through the Fall 2021 was a decrease of -18.49% or -4,120 students. Here’s the source of the enrollment data: www.wisconsin.edu/education-reports-statistics/enrollments/
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Post by JG Panthers on Feb 15, 2022 8:36:34 GMT -6
Your stats don't really prove anything about the job he is doing. Enrollment has declined across the board in the US over the last 10 years where less people are going to college. This has been especially true for midwestern schools where the population is declining. Population trends are going up in the south and along the east and west coast. I believe this is true at Wright State, but the rest of the UW System isn't experiencing the same exodus.
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Post by PantherU on Feb 15, 2022 17:56:41 GMT -6
All you've done is carry water and make excuses for the incompetence of UWM administration. It's almost as if you work for them or something... 🤔🤔🤔 You might want to read through all of their posts. There's a lot of talk about UWM's athletic director being incompetent and Mark Mone being incompetent. If they're carrying water for them, they're doing a bad job of it.
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Post by BBFran on Feb 15, 2022 19:22:45 GMT -6
The problem is that any implication that this is an issue that the Regents have to fix is a dead end for us. The regents don’t care and are not going to care. Like it or not, what happens next with respect to our athletics program and our basketball program is up to the Chancellor. The question is whether he will roll up his sleeves and tackle the problem, or just glance over to the same people at the Pavilion who dug this hole and say “keep me posted on what you’re going to do.”
Complaining about the regents is just useless and counterproductive howling at the moon.
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