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Post by Spirit of Bruce on Feb 15, 2022 20:23:38 GMT -6
All you've done is carry water and make excuses for the incompetence of UWM administration. It's almost as if you work for them or something... 🤔🤔🤔 You might want to read through all of their posts. There's a lot of talk about UWM's athletic director being incompetent and Mark Mone being incompetent. If they're carrying water for them, they're doing a bad job of it. I'll say it again for the Johnny-Come-Latelys: When you pass the buck on to the Board of Regents or any other off campus bogeyman, you are carrying water for Mone and Braun. Shifting blame = carrying water, in my opinion. Perhaps Fran explains it better than I. I didn't go to law school. |
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Post by JG Panthers on Feb 16, 2022 7:57:25 GMT -6
This is true, but not at a similar rate, and let's compare apples to apples. If you want to just look at 4-year public universities since 2012, enrollment headcount in... US is down 2.1% UW System is down 1.7% UWM is down 22.4% I know Wright State is having some of the same issues but at an even more troubling rate. |
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Post by PantherU on Feb 16, 2022 10:10:15 GMT -6
This is true, but not at a similar rate, and let's compare apples to apples. If you want to just look at 4-year public universities since 2012, enrollment headcount in... US is down 2.1% UW System is down 1.7% UWM is down 22.4% I know Wright State is having some of the same issues but at an even more troubling rate. Okay I'm writing. I'm writing a Jimmy thing. I need as much of this information as you guys can get me. I need this information because I need to do three things: - Demonstrate a need for wholesale change with the men's basketball program - Demonstrate that athletics is a massive driver for student engagement, impacting enrollment, how badly it has affected Milwaukee and how it hasn't been nearly as bad at our peers (Horizon League, A-10, MVC [to give him an implicit explanation that we need to move up conferences to help enrollment]) - Demonstrate how the fall of the athletic program as a whole is on the athletic director. Let's knock out any "achievements" she may claim, such as "I got the practice facility built" when the money going towards that from student seg fees was being raised before she got here. Let's crowdsource some data.We can put together an incredibly sound argument if we work together. If you want to work on this, shoot me a DM with your email. |
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Post by davedome on Feb 16, 2022 10:39:23 GMT -6
This is true, but not at a similar rate, and let's compare apples to apples. If you want to just look at 4-year public universities since 2012, enrollment headcount in... US is down 2.1% UW System is down 1.7% UWM is down 22.4% I know Wright State is having some of the same issues but at an even more troubling rate. Okay I'm writing. I'm writing a Jimmy thing. I need as much of this information as you guys can get me. I need this information because I need to do three things: - Demonstrate a need for wholesale change with the men's basketball program - Demonstrate that athletics is a massive driver for student engagement, impacting enrollment, how badly it has affected Milwaukee and how it hasn't been nearly as bad at our peers (Horizon League, A-10, MVC [to give him an implicit explanation that we need to move up conferences to help enrollment]) - Demonstrate how the fall of the athletic program as a whole is on the athletic director. Let's knock out any "achievements" she may claim, such as "I got the practice facility built" when the money going towards that from student seg fees was being raised before she got here. Let's crowdsource some data.We can put together an incredibly sound argument if we work together. If you want to work on this, shoot me a DM with your email. Thanks for working on this. I'll do some digging and will shoot you anything relevant. |
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Post by ghostofdylan on Feb 16, 2022 10:48:32 GMT -6
I'm down! Put me down!
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Post by peterpanther on Feb 16, 2022 19:11:19 GMT -6
The notion that Mark Mone will be the chancellor at UW-Milwaukee until he resigns or retires is precisely the problem. What metrics are Mark Mone being evaluated on by the UW System Board of Regents? Mark Mone was appointed as the chancellor of UW-Milwaukee by the UW System Board of Regents in December, 2014. Here’s the undergraduate enrollment statistics at UW-Milwaukee from the Fall 2015 semester through the Fall 2021 semester. The change in undergraduate enrollment at UW-Milwaukee from the Fall 2015 through the Fall 2021 was a decrease of -18.49% or -4,120 students.  Here’s the source of the enrollment data: www.wisconsin.edu/education-reports-statistics/enrollments/Your stats don't really prove anything about the job he is doing. Enrollment has declined across the board in the US over the last 10 years where less people are going to college. This has been especially true for midwestern schools where the population is declining. Population trends are going up in the south and along the east and west coast. Here’s the data and the change in enrollment (undergraduate, graduate and total) from the Fall, 2015 semester through the Fall, 2021 semester of the UW system universities that are in the NCAA Division 1. Mark Mone, the chancellor of UW-Milwaukee, was appointed as the chancellor on December, 2014 by the UW System Board of Regents.   |
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Post by peterpanther on Feb 16, 2022 19:32:56 GMT -6
The problem is that any implication that this is an issue that the Regents have to fix is a dead end for us. The regents don’t care and are not going to care. Like it or not, what happens next with respect to our athletics program and our basketball program is up to the Chancellor. The question is whether he will roll up his sleeves and tackle the problem, or just glance over to the same people at the Pavilion who dug this hole and say “keep me posted on what you’re going to do.” Complaining about the regents is just useless and counterproductive howling at the moon. I do agree that ultimately change will have to come within UWM. However, Mark Mone, and the administration at UWM have proved time and again to be incompetent and dysfunctional. The appointment of Mone to be the UWM chancellor by the UW System Board of Regents in 2014 was curious. At the time of Mone's appointment, he was a faculty member at UWM for 25 years and he was fully immersed in the UWM echo chamber with very little interest in athletics. The root cause of the failures of Mone and the administration is the entity that appointed Mone as the chancellor and aren't holding Mone and the UWM administration to account, the UW System Board of Regents. When I think of the incompetence of the UWM chancellor and administration the following quote from The Office comes to mind: "When a child gets behind the wheel of a car and runs into a tree, You don't blame the child. ... You blame the 30-year-old woman who got in the passenger seat and said, "Drive, kid. I trust you." |
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Post by peterpanther on Feb 23, 2022 7:31:49 GMT -6
Here's more data regarding the drastic decrease of enrollment during Mone's tenure as Chancellor at UW-Milwaukee compared to the rest of the UW System 4 year universities. Please note that Mone was appointed as the Chancellor at UW-Milwaukee by the UW System Board of Regents in December, 2014. From the Fall 2015 semester through the Fall 2021 semester, UW-Milwaukee had a total enrollment decrease of -16.73% or 4,536 students compared to the total of the other 12 universities in the UW System which had a decrease of -2.30% or 3,175 students.  Asterisk marks the designation of a Doctoral Research University Asterisk marks the designation of a Doctoral Research University Here's the source of the enrollment data:
www.wisconsin.edu/education-reports-statistics/enrollments/ |
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Post by peterpanther on Feb 23, 2022 7:58:23 GMT -6
Additionally to the drastic decrease in enrollment at UW-Milwaukee, Mone has shown little to no interest in the department (the athletics department) which is significantly impactful for the following:
• Student Recruitment
• University Branding
• Alumni Engagement
• University Donations
UW-Milwaukee is only 1 of 3 universities of the 13 four year public universities in the state of Wisconsin that have athletics in Division 1 of the NCAA.
Also, UW-Milwaukee is only 1 of 2 public universities in Wisconsin with the designation of a Doctoral Research University. UW-Milwaukee also is the second largest university (public or private) in student enrollment in Wisconsin.
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