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Post by MKEPanthers45 on Mar 17, 2017 16:37:40 GMT -6
45, I find it deeply ironic that you have a picture of Matt Tiby as your icon. You understand what he thinks of the program now, right? Matt was one of the greatest players in the history of our program. I daresay I'll be shocked if we ever have another player as good, or as passionate, given the dire circumstances we find ourselves in now. And he got thrown out like a baby with the bathwater. Fair warning to any potential recruits and their parents: learn what happened here before you make any decision to play here under our duplicitous AD. Those who don't learn history are doomed to repeat it. I understand that while we were making a run in the Horizon League tournament, he was on twitter and supporting our team as much as anybody. I heard his parents even went to a regular season game. If they can support the guys I think you should be able to as well. And well be shocked, cause with all due respect to Tiby who is one of my favorite players in Panther history, Brock as a sophomore is already better than Tiby was as a sophomore. |
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Post by PantherU on Mar 17, 2017 16:43:40 GMT -6
I just decided I would rather spend my time being positive about the program and supportive of LaVall and the guys, then being negative about stuff I probably won't be able to change. Here's the thing though, man. You CAN change it. Just check this out: Link: Fan pressure is what cooked Crean's gooseFans can pressure to make the change. We can push them to make the move needed to get us to what we all want: a full, united fan base behind LaVall Jordan. He is exactly the kind of person who we can prop up as a unifying force. There's absolutely nothing wrong with being positive about Coach Val and his team. They're a great group of guys and the kids are all good, upstanding citizens, something that can't be understated by those of us who lived through 2007-08. But there was an incredibly loud group of people who pushed for the university to cut ties with Amanda Braun, and judging by the 45% drop in attendance quite a few of them were season ticket holders or regular game attendees this year. Those people spoke with their feet. Whether or not posters on here agree with it, those are facts. It's not because they loved Jeter. I could count on my fingers and toes the amount of fans that wanted Jeter to remain coach. It wasn't about Rob. It never was. I think if there's one thing I would change about the last year, it's the fact that I've fallen into the trap of engaging with people who keep wanting to make it about Rob Jeter. I know why they do: because that's the only argument they can win. That's okay. I understand why some people are vocally supporting Amanda. Some of them are ill-informed and just wanted Jeter gone, to hell with all the things she did to all the other people to make it happen. Some of them work for her, and helped put her plans in motion so they feel like they have to back her. Some of them are on the university payroll - excuse me, UWM Foundation payroll  - and have been brought in for damage control. Some of them are Amanda Braun. Today is the one-year anniversary of Rob Jeter being fired. If anyone is confused and thinks that he's still why we're fighting, let me put this to bed once and for all: he's not. Why are we fighting? We're fighting for the future of the program. For all of us. #UnitedWeRoar #WhenBraunsGone |
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Post by PantherNation on Mar 17, 2017 17:13:58 GMT -6
Do you contribute money to the Packers? (Not buy tickets -- contribute money. A lot of it.) Do you volunteer your time to serve on boards and committees for the Packers? (Not, do you watch Packer games on TV in your jammies -- have you donated time and your professional skills over years to improve the organization?) Has Ted Thompson fired Mike McCarthy, and constructed a series of lies to explain the firing when it was really just because he was threatened by his competence and wanted to show everybody who was the boss? Did Ted Thompson's decision to let a free agent go unsigned result in the loss of 45% of the Packers' attendance last year? Is Milwaukee basketball a privately held entity? A list of questions like this is almost literally endless. To say you have made a terrible analogy would be an insult to analogies everywhere. Well good news for you then. You don't have to waste any more of your time or money on the program. You know... based on your condescending, smug way of talking with people who don't share your opinion, are you really surprised that no one is joining your "movement" for change? |
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Post by PantherU on Mar 17, 2017 17:16:50 GMT -6
And we'll be shocked, cause with all due respect to Tiby who is one of my favorite players in Panther history, Brock as a sophomore is already better than Tiby was as a sophomore. Tiby was a few games short of being the #1 rebounder and #2 scorer in our Division I history. I realize it's not quite the same since one was a power forward and one's a shooting guard/small forward, but that's an exciting sentence to read. As for Tiby cheering the team on, why wouldn't he? Jordy was shooting us snapchats through the title game of him watching the game in Vegas. Akeem was watching the tourney run too. I got texts from former coaches right after the game who were watching with excitement, including a couple who were on staff last season. The former coaches I asked to were very happy with Mone's choice of LaVall Jordan for head coach; after all, these are their guys and they were relieved to see one of the "good guys" take over the program. That #ItsJustUs hashtag wasn't some sales pitch. They really did build a family here. Say what you will about Rob Jeter's program, but for the last 7 years and change, those guys really cared for each other and the program - the occasional Haarsma not included. That's not to say they didn't before 2010, they just took more chances on shaky characters that didn't pan out in the early years. They just didn't win as much as fans wanted. That's perfectly reasonable. It's actually another example of why getting rid of Braun would be perfect. These guys so badly want this program to be great - even after getting shown the door - and their bad taste toward the school is focused on her. I would go so far as to say that even the coaches on the fired staff would be happy to associate with the school in the future once she's gone. Maybe give it some more time, but we need to move past Braun, who cannot lead this program forward. Remove Jeter and the spring of 2016 from the equation entirely. What exactly do people like about what Braun has done as AD? Vote to move the conference tournaments to Detroit? Clear out committed, loyal employees? Lose a winnable fight that ended up cutting the athletics facilities seg fee from $25 to $16? I'll put one thing out there that she's done: she's put more effort into backing my babies than other AD's. She supported my idea to rename the arena, and she's pushed for the practice facility. So don't think I can't find something positive. But those are no-brainers that first got support from Braun because her immediate predecessors didn't have brain stems. Hell, George got the facilities seg fee passed in the first place! And none of us would have him as AD today (please tell me I'm right about that). People often talk about eras. The Bruce Pearl Era, the Rob Jeter Era, the Steve Antrim Era. Well, I'll bring up another: the Era of Terrible Athletic Directors. Let's put an end to this era once and for all. Let's end this and unite behind LaVall Jordan together. #UnitedWeRoar #WhenBraunsGone |
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Post by PantherU on Mar 17, 2017 17:18:04 GMT -6
Well good news for you then. You don't have to waste any more of your time or money on the program. You know... based on your condescending, smug way of talking with people who don't share your opinion, are you really surprised that no one is joining your "movement" for change? Apologies, PN, but he's only responding with the same tone that was used with him. |
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Post by PantherNation on Mar 17, 2017 17:29:53 GMT -6
Well good news for you then. You don't have to waste any more of your time or money on the program. You know... based on your condescending, smug way of talking with people who don't share your opinion, are you really surprised that no one is joining your "movement" for change? Apologies, PN, but he's only responding with the same tone that was used with him. On my end?? If so, my apologies. I didn't mean anything to come off as aggressive. Just want to clarify that I don't know Fran personally or even that much about him, but I met him a few years back in the hotel lobby at a tournament in Northern Illinois. I'm not by any means doubting his relationship with the program. I'm just stating that my loyalty for the Panthers runs deeper than the AD. I'm not able to just turn off my allegiance to the school/team and wait for change to happen just because she's in charge. Maybe it's because I haven't donated big bucks to the university and don't have as much invested monetarily as he and others may have. Whatever the case, I'll be in the stands next season too. To each their own. |
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Post by pantherproud on Mar 18, 2017 7:20:41 GMT -6
Here's the thing though, man. You CAN change it. Just check this out: Link: Fan pressure is what cooked Crean's gooseFans can pressure to make the change. We can push them to make the move needed to get us to what we all want: a full, united fan base behind LaVall Jordan. He is exactly the kind of person who we can prop up as a unifying force. There's absolutely nothing wrong with being positive about Coach Val and his team. They're a great group of guys and the kids are all good, upstanding citizens, something that can't be understated by those of us who lived through 2007-08. But there was an incredibly loud group of people who pushed for the university to cut ties with Amanda Braun, and judging by the 45% drop in attendance quite a few of them were season ticket holders or regular game attendees this year. Those people spoke with their feet. Whether or not posters on here agree with it, those are facts. It's not because they loved Jeter. I could count on my fingers and toes the amount of fans that wanted Jeter to remain coach. It wasn't about Rob. It never was. I think if there's one thing I would change about the last year, it's the fact that I've fallen into the trap of engaging with people who keep wanting to make it about Rob Jeter. I know why they do: because that's the only argument they can win. That's okay. I understand why some people are vocally supporting Amanda. Some of them are ill-informed and just wanted Jeter gone, to hell with all the things she did to all the other people to make it happen. Some of them work for her, and helped put her plans in motion so they feel like they have to back her. Some of them are on the university payroll - excuse me, UWM Foundation payroll - and have been brought in for damage control. Some of them are Amanda Braun. Today is the one-year anniversary of Rob Jeter being fired. If anyone is confused and thinks that he's still why we're fighting, let me put this to bed once and for all: he's not. Why are we fighting? We're fighting for the future of the program. For all of us. #UnitedWeRoar #WhenBraunsGone We all know fan pressure can force a coaching change. That is part of the reason Jeter is out and Lavall is in. Alot of fans didnt care for his average performance. We won, you lost. Get over it. Doesn't work that way for the administration. That is beside the point. We show up to root for the players that put their hard work in since they were little kids to be a D1 player. I could care less who is the AD. I hate Ted Thompson but still cheer for the Packers. There really is no difference. |
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Post by PantherU on Mar 18, 2017 7:47:26 GMT -6
Apologies, PN, but he's only responding with the same tone that was used with him. On my end?? If so, my apologies. I didn't mean anything to come off as aggressive. Just want to clarify that I don't know Fran personally or even that much about him, but I met him a few years back in the hotel lobby at a tournament in Northern Illinois. I'm not by any means doubting his relationship with the program. I'm just stating that my loyalty for the Panthers runs deeper than the AD. I'm not able to just turn off my allegiance to the school/team and wait for change to happen just because she's in charge. Maybe it's because I haven't donated big bucks to the university and don't have as much invested monetarily as he and others may have. Whatever the case, I'll be in the stands next season too. To each their own. When I was talking about tone, I was speaking mostly to Amanda's lap dog (or maybe it's Amanda herself?) "pantherproud." Your stance and mine are similar. Maybe we're just not old enough to talk with our wallets yet |
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Post by PantherU on Mar 18, 2017 10:16:18 GMT -6
We all know fan pressure can force a coaching change. That is part of the reason Jeter is out and Lavall is in. Alot of fans didnt care for his average performance. See, other posters? This is what I've been talking about. Amanda's cronies only can win an argument if they make it about Rob Jeter, a guy who was fired 357 days ago. If you recall, as one of Jeter's most ardent supporters, I thought at best he could have the 2016-17 season - the year they had been talking up since the APR ban came down - and then he'd be gone. Think about that for a second: even Jeter's biggest fans thought we'd be in a coaching search right around now. So you can leave that argument in the past, with Jeter. He's old news. None of us are here fighting for a guy who is enjoying his time in the desert. We won, you lost. Get over it. I suppose you can call uprooting a few dozen people as "winning." But let's move past that particularly craven take on the situation, because I'm curious as to why you use the word 'we' there. You say later in your post that "I could care less who is the AD," yet you're claiming victory? Also, it's pretty hard for someone on Amanda's side to claim such a victory when her choice for head coach is at South Dakota State. By the accounts of many mutual acquaintances, I've heard TJ Otzelberger is a great guy. I'm sure he'll be a good coach once he gets some time to build his program - this was his Jeter 05-06 year (except holy crap I didn't realize Mike Daum was a SOPHOMORE) - but he's also a guy who will have the NCAA opening a field office in Brookings, South Dakota. But these are minor details. Everyone should thank Mark Mone personally for going with LaVall Jordan. Need I remind you, you personally didn't want LaVall Jordan either. We all know why. Doesn't work that way for the administration. That is beside the point. What I find funny is that for someone who knows historically great Panthers like M.A. Kelling, you have a shocking lack of knowledge in recent history. You should know how George Koonce lost his job. If you don't, let's just say Carlos Santiago had a really uncomfortable evening in his penthouse listening to some alumni put the pressure on him. I recall George's choice for Jeter's replacement was Tony Benford, who just got fired after doing exactly nothing at North Texas. We show up to root for the players that put their hard work in since they were little kids to be a D1 player. Don't even pretend that you're a fan of the players. Your entire history on this board is in the off season. Every post you've made fits between March 22nd and May 23rd, 2016 - that is until you showed up again out of the blue... yesterday. Hard work and sacrifice. If you truly gave one shred of a sh*t for the players on the team, you would have been incensed to find out that after those kids who gave at minimum a quarter of their college career to play for a program on an APR ban Your only post in a thread about the current players was when you chimed in on Jeremiah Bell's recruiting thread...to slam the PantherU board. I could care less who is the AD. I hate Ted Thompson but still cheer for the Packers. There really is no difference. You're a shill for the AD. You can claim anonymity all you want, but you're here to do damage control. That's why your account appeared last year five days after Jeter was fired, that's why it went away when the fighting died down, and that's why it didn't come back until yesterday. Since Carl Mueller and Dennis McBride decided they wanted to call out the "Concerned Panther Fan" emailing the media in their response letter on Thursday, in that spirit how about you own your own identity? PantherNation, dunnedeal, FTA, mkehoops, MKEPanthers45, JGPanthers, mupanther, SuperKing? All of those people who have contributed to this thread in some level of disagreement with our argument are known by at minimum a couple people. I personally have met each and every one of them. Gotten drunk with them, taken road trips, ran through campus recruiting students to go to games. I've poked fun at them for propping up players they think we should recruit who never pan out like Tony Mane, and they remind me of my prediction that we might retire Brad Carroll's jersey. They're part of the community. BBFran, ghostofdylan, DarkHawk, myself? Same thing. We've all been talking this team and have known each other on some level for years - some of these people I've known for over a decade. You don't get status here by saying you're a "long time Panther fan, alum and season ticket holder." Maybe you are those things, but you've got some balls to come in here and spout insults because we're not letting your buddy get away with dismantling the program. We can't You're just here to defend Amanda Braun. Whether you're Garrett Butrym, Carl Mueller (or someone who works for his PR firm), Dennis McBride, Phyllis King (actually I know you're not her, she's respectful), an unfortunate AD employee or Amanda Braun herself, it doesn't matter. You're here to defend someone who is indefensible. Now go run along and let gomkepanthers know you need some backup, because you are out of your element.  ____________________________________________________________________________________ P.S. - While you're "supporting the program," let's not forget this little chestnut when you found out LaVall Jordan was the hire: it's Lavall Jordan...?? Really? Being the Amanda crony you are, you shilled for TJ Otzelberger hard on the message board - then were legitimately surprised when Val got the job. 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Post by pantherproud on Mar 18, 2017 11:48:16 GMT -6
We all know fan pressure can force a coaching change. That is part of the reason Jeter is out and Lavall is in. Alot of fans didnt care for his average performance. See, other posters? This is what I've been talking about. Amanda's cronies only can win an argument if they make it about Rob Jeter, a guy who was fired 357 days ago. If you recall, as one of Jeter's most ardent supporters, I thought at best he could have the 2016-17 season - the year they had been talking up since the APR ban came down - and then he'd be gone. Think about that for a second: even Jeter's biggest fans thought we'd be in a coaching search right around now. So you can leave that argument in the past, with Jeter. He's old news. None of us are here fighting for a guy who is enjoying his time in the desert. We won, you lost. Get over it. I suppose you can call uprooting a few dozen people as "winning." But let's move past that particularly craven take on the situation, because I'm curious as to why you use the word 'we' there. You say later in your post that "I could care less who is the AD," yet you're claiming victory? Also, it's pretty hard for someone on Amanda's side to claim such a victory when her choice for head coach is at South Dakota State. By the accounts of many mutual acquaintances, I've heard TJ Otzelberger is a great guy. I'm sure he'll be a good coach once he gets some time to build his program - this was his Jeter 05-06 year (except holy crap I didn't realize Mike Daum was a SOPHOMORE) - but he's also a guy who will have the NCAA opening a field office in Brookings, South Dakota. But these are minor details. Everyone should thank Mark Mone personally for going with LaVall Jordan. Need I remind you, you personally didn't want LaVall Jordan either. We all know why. Doesn't work that way for the administration. That is beside the point. What I find funny is that for someone who knows historically great Panthers like M.A. Kelling, you have a shocking lack of knowledge in recent history. You should know how George Koonce lost his job. If you don't, let's just say Carlos Santiago had a really uncomfortable evening in his penthouse listening to some alumni put the pressure on him. I recall George's choice for Jeter's replacement was Tony Benford, who just got fired after doing exactly nothing at North Texas. We show up to root for the players that put their hard work in since they were little kids to be a D1 player. Don't even pretend that you're a fan of the players. Your entire history on this board is in the off season. Every post you've made fits between March 22nd and May 23rd, 2016 - that is until you showed up again out of the blue... yesterday. Hard work and sacrifice. If you truly gave one shred of a sh*t for the players on the team, you would have been incensed to find out that after those kids who gave at minimum a quarter of their college career to play for a program on an APR ban Your only post in a thread about the current players was when you chimed in on Jeremiah Bell's recruiting thread...to slam the PantherU board. I could care less who is the AD. I hate Ted Thompson but still cheer for the Packers. There really is no difference. You're a shill for the AD. You can claim anonymity all you want, but you're here to do damage control. That's why your account appeared last year five days after Jeter was fired, that's why it went away when the fighting died down, and that's why it didn't come back until yesterday. Since Carl Mueller and Dennis McBride decided they wanted to call out the "Concerned Panther Fan" emailing the media in their response letter on Thursday, in that spirit how about you own your own identity? PantherNation, dunnedeal, FTA, mkehoops, MKEPanthers45, JGPanthers, mupanther, SuperKing? All of those people who have contributed to this thread in some level of disagreement with our argument are known by at minimum a couple people. I personally have met each and every one of them. Gotten drunk with them, taken road trips, ran through campus recruiting students to go to games. I've poked fun at them for propping up players they think we should recruit who never pan out like Tony Mane, and they remind me of my prediction that we might retire Brad Carroll's jersey. They're part of the community. BBFran, ghostofdylan, DarkHawk, myself? Same thing. We've all been talking this team and have known each other on some level for years - some of these people I've known for over a decade. You don't get status here by saying you're a "long time Panther fan, alum and season ticket holder." Maybe you are those things, but you've got some balls to come in here and spout insults because we're not letting your buddy get away with dismantling the program. We can't You're just here to defend Amanda Braun. Whether you're Garrett Butrym, Carl Mueller (or someone who works for his PR firm), Dennis McBride, Phyllis King (actually I know you're not her, she's respectful), an unfortunate AD employee or Amanda Braun herself, it doesn't matter. You're here to defend someone who is indefensible. Now go run along and let gomkepanthers know you need some backup, because you are out of your element. ____________________________________________________________________________________ P.S. - While you're "supporting the program," let's not forget this little chestnut when you found out LaVall Jordan was the hire: it's Lavall Jordan...?? Really? Being the Amanda crony you are, you shilled for TJ Otzelberger hard on the message board - then were legitimately surprised when Val got the job. I wonder why that is! It's funny that you spend so much time researching my history on a message board. I simply don't care that much to do the same for you. Yes I lobbied for TJ, but I also think Lavall was a good choice. Sure I'm not always posting on here as much as some people, doesn't mean I don't read posts frequently about recruits,etc. I just chime in when I feel like people aren't supporting the team. If you and your buddies stop coming to games I wouldn't care, but trashing it publicly is my biggest issue. If Braun is fired, I'm fine with that, she has certainly made mistakes. I'm just saying If you have issues, go talk to Mone in person and vent behind closed doors. I'm at every game sitting their with my son bringing him up to cheer for the Panthers and that will not change regardless of who the AD or head coach is. |
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Post by theDarkHawkReturns on Mar 20, 2017 7:35:15 GMT -6
Since some posters here believe that I, along with others, have no interest in the advancement of Milwaukee Athletics, I will repost here a post originally made one year ago at the PantherU board.
It is still as valid today as it was almost a year ago, and as we all know, not one thing on this list is even being discussed. I think this is a reasonable plan, with achievable goals...of course, you need a leader more interested in growing the program than she is her own ego.
The plan for growing the program cannot be simply one of "winning games and recruiting locally". That just makes you the best in a weak conference, and you are still 1 bad game in March away from no NCAA bid.
The plan must be bigger and more far reaching that that. I would suggest the following:
1. Develop a plan to make continued improvements regarding conference affiliations.
1. Approach the MVC about moving to it, probably with Valpo. This makes the Valley a 12 team conference that now includes another major metro area (Milwaukee) and another IN program (Valpo)
2. Be ready to move up from the Valley if the opportunity presents itself, similar to what Butler did moving to the Big East. When an opportunity comes along, you need to be ready to take it. Such a move may not be required though, given the programs that would be in the New Valley.
2. Immediately add men's and women's hockey. This will quickly become a third revenue generator along with baseball, (see #3) and relieve pressure on the Basketball program to hold up the whole department financially.
3. Improve the profile of baseball to a level befitting the only D1 program in the state.
1. Aggressively partner with the Brewers up to and including using Miller Park for spring home games instead of the current month long road trip to start the season
2. Develop and implement the plan to have a true home field at the Rock
3. Improve marketing to at least the level of the Lakeshore Chinooks. It should be an embarrassment that we are out marketed by and have lesser facilities than the Chinooks.
4. Explore the possibility of joining the Big Ten for Baseball (UW has no Baseball Program) if you are successful with the improvements of the program above, further increasing the profile of the program, and perhaps even pulling in UW fans during the baseball season the way UW pulls in fans during football season from other non-football schools in the state. (NOTE: This was added as of the date of this post, and not part of the 4/2016 post.)
All of this needs to be planned and discussed with donors in advance, asking for their input, advice and support long term to see this plan through to fulfillment, rather than following the current approach by the Athletic Department which seems to be "Give me your money and shut your damn mouth. I am smarter than you."
All of which means the very first step....Step Zero if you will....is to fire the complete clown of an Athletic Director we have now, along with her lackeys, and bring in someone that can direct this effort, and will commit to seeing it through in the long term. That begins to put out the Dumpster Fire on Downer (TM) and repair the relationship with the booster community.
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Post by MKEPanthers45 on Mar 20, 2017 10:58:06 GMT -6
2. Immediately add men's and women's hockey. This will quickly become a third revenue generator along with baseball, (see #3) and relieve pressure on the Basketball program to hold up the whole department financially.
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Post by PantherU on Mar 20, 2017 12:16:55 GMT -6
It's funny that you spend so much time researching my history on a message board. I simply don't care that much to do the same for you. I wouldn't want to research my own board history either. Between my original account and this one, I've got nearly 11,000 posts. That's a lot of crap to sort through, especially when you remember this is me and I've probably written a few novels' worth of words on this board alone. It took me about five minutes to research your post history. Before the other day, your post history was exactly two months and one day long. Aside from the coaching search, everything you're on has to do with Amanda - and really, until Val was hired, pushing TJ was exactly what Amanda would want if she had people on the board at the time. Yes I lobbied for TJ, but I also think Lavall was a good choice. pantherproud: "LaVall Jordan...Really...??" Either you were caught off guard because you knew without a shadow of a doubt that TJ Otzelberger was going to be hired, or you were very disappointed to find out that LaVall Jordan was going to be hired. LaVall was a good choice. Everyone agrees with you there. He'll be a great, unifying figure once Braun's gone. Sure I'm not always posting on here as much as some people, doesn't mean I don't read posts frequently about recruits,etc. I just chime in when I feel like people aren't supporting the team. don't support the team if you support their oppressor. So what, do you stand in front of the mirror and "chime in?" By all means, go up to Cody Wichmann and Dan Studer at the Senior Salute and tell them you support Amanda Braun's moves. See how far that gets you. If you and your buddies stop coming to games I wouldn't care, but trashing it publicly is my biggest issue. If Braun is fired, I'm fine with that, she has certainly made mistakes. I'm just saying If you have issues, go talk to Mone in person and vent behind closed doors. If one of the biggest donors in school history - with millions of dollars pledged to the school - can't get anywhere with the chancellor behind closed doors, how far do you think I'm gonna get? Our rabble rousing got them to pull Carl Mueller and Dennis McBride out of mothballs just days after the season ended. Mueller says he's so proud to be a Panther and that's why he was responding to the "anonymous fan" in the UWM Post, but Mueller Communications is a PR firm that has been hired by UWM to handle PR problems. I was told last year that the university contracted Mueller for Amanda's mess, so color me surprised that they'll weigh in here. Sunshine is the best disinfectant. Why haven't they engaged with us directly? I'm easy to find. If you think I could just pull a meeting with Mark Mone, doesn't it stand to reason that they could engage us all the same? I'm at every game sitting their with my son bringing him up to cheer for the Panthers and that will not change regardless of who the AD or head coach is. Good. Keep that up. But don't step in our way and say it's for the good of the team. If we're going to do something for the good of the program, that means cutting out the AD who ruined it. If you're worried about that being public, then you know that the second Amanda Braun's firing hits the news, talking heads like Mark Belling and Bill Michaels will say that the university did the right thing, that it shows they're committed to winning, that the school isn't going to let a vindictive and terrible administrator get in the way of bringing everyone together. United We Roar is in sight, just down the road. It just requires Amanda Braun be put in the rear view mirror. |
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Post by PantherU on Mar 20, 2017 12:20:18 GMT -6
2. Immediately add men's and women's hockey. This will quickly become a third revenue generator along with baseball, (see #3) and relieve pressure on the Basketball program to hold up the whole department financially.
This^^^ If you've never met him, I highly recommend meeting Mark Geinopolos. He has a 15-minute pitch that will have you writing checks to start a hockey program. |
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Post by pantherproud on Mar 20, 2017 13:47:56 GMT -6
It's funny that you spend so much time researching my history on a message board. I simply don't care that much to do the same for you. I wouldn't want to research my own board history either. Between my original account and this one, I've got nearly 11,000 posts. That's a lot of crap to sort through, especially when you remember this is me and I've probably written a few novels' worth of words on this board alone. It took me about five minutes to research your post history. Before the other day, your post history was exactly two months and one day long. Aside from the coaching search, everything you're on has to do with Amanda - and really, until Val was hired, pushing TJ was exactly what Amanda would want if she had people on the board at the time. Yes I lobbied for TJ, but I also think Lavall was a good choice. pantherproud: "LaVall Jordan...Really...??" Either you were caught off guard because you knew without a shadow of a doubt that TJ Otzelberger was going to be hired, or you were very disappointed to find out that LaVall Jordan was going to be hired. LaVall was a good choice. Everyone agrees with you there. He'll be a great, unifying figure once Braun's gone. Sure I'm not always posting on here as much as some people, doesn't mean I don't read posts frequently about recruits,etc. I just chime in when I feel like people aren't supporting the team. don't support the team if you support their oppressor. So what, do you stand in front of the mirror and "chime in?" By all means, go up to Cody Wichmann and Dan Studer at the Senior Salute and tell them you support Amanda Braun's moves. See how far that gets you. If you and your buddies stop coming to games I wouldn't care, but trashing it publicly is my biggest issue. If Braun is fired, I'm fine with that, she has certainly made mistakes. I'm just saying If you have issues, go talk to Mone in person and vent behind closed doors. If one of the biggest donors in school history - with millions of dollars pledged to the school - can't get anywhere with the chancellor behind closed doors, how far do you think I'm gonna get? Our rabble rousing got them to pull Carl Mueller and Dennis McBride out of mothballs just days after the season ended. Mueller says he's so proud to be a Panther and that's why he was responding to the "anonymous fan" in the UWM Post, but Mueller Communications is a PR firm that has been hired by UWM to handle PR problems. I was told last year that the university contracted Mueller for Amanda's mess, so color me surprised that they'll weigh in here. Sunshine is the best disinfectant. Why haven't they engaged with us directly? I'm easy to find. If you think I could just pull a meeting with Mark Mone, doesn't it stand to reason that they could engage us all the same? I'm at every game sitting their with my son bringing him up to cheer for the Panthers and that will not change regardless of who the AD or head coach is. Good. Keep that up. But don't step in our way and say it's for the good of the team. If we're going to do something for the good of the program, that means cutting out the AD who ruined it. If you're worried about that being public, then you know that the second Amanda Braun's firing hits the news, talking heads like Mark Belling and Bill Michaels will say that the university did the right thing, that it shows they're committed to winning, that the school isn't going to let a vindictive and terrible administrator get in the way of bringing everyone together. United We Roar is in sight, just down the road. It just requires Amanda Braun be put in the rear view mirror. Clearly you have missed my point entirely. I don't care if Braun is fired. I'll repeat it again. I don't care whether she is fired or not. I care about people being in the stands for the players. I care about getting the program back on the national stage. That requires good recruits and then a good product on the floor. The players would benefit from a home court advantage. That's what I am trying to push. If your approach works and she is fired, congrats. I have agreed that we could get a better AD. I would just ask the you and the 'fans' backing your approach show up at games and cheer loudly instead of staying home. |
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- and have been brought in for damage control. Some of them are Amanda Braun.
