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Post by theDarkHawkReturns on Mar 30, 2016 16:56:16 GMT -6
Stephenson is more than just a recruiter which seems to be a code word for black coach. Ummmm...no. Go away with your worries over "code words", "micro-aggressions", and "Safe Spaces". It means his role on the staff is to led the recruiting effort, not necessarily on court coaching. You know.....kind of like what TJ does. Oh...and just in case you didn't know....TJ might not be black.  |
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Post by gomkepanthers on Mar 30, 2016 17:41:37 GMT -6
Did you ever think my timing and maybe that of others is due to the fact we are excited jeter was let go? I've waited a long time for us to make a change and try to upgrade our coach to level that I grew accustomed to years ago. I apologize for the registered date thing - I was confusing you with gomkepanthers, who signed up a couple days before the decision to forego the postseason went public. That person (we'll just assume you're not one in the same) came prepared with a table breaking down Rob Jeter's record. Normally? Who cares. Plenty of people against Rob brought up his record. That table was prepared in the exact same way that tables have been put together by the athletic department for years. The rest of the post that came with it was prepared elsewhere, as the bullet-points used are the same that show up when you copy a bullet-point list from another computer program and paste them into the message board. See the red rectangle in this screenshot (edited to bring the username, bullet list and table elements together): That isn't the bullet-point used by:
It's close to the middle one, but the size of the bullet-point in the middle example above is thinner and shorter than the one used in the 'gomkepanthers' post. To even get that second bullet-point, you need to use a drop-down list that's never used on here.
So yeah, I questioned who that person was. Because it's poor form for AD employees to pose as random fans with an agenda, and that person appeared to be someone who was in the AD. If 'gomkepanthers' isn't, they most certainly had everything prepared beforehand and simply plugged in the table and bullet-point list onto the board. PantherU, What's up with the fixation of keeping bringing me up? Isn't this thread about who will be the next coach? I don't have an agenda, I'm not part of a conspiracy, and I'm not affiliated with the university. I'm simply a fan who's good with spreadsheets and statistics. With your imagination of conspiracy theories perhaps a message board to discuss Area 51 or the Moon Landing would be better suited for you. |
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Post by PantherU on Mar 30, 2016 18:38:44 GMT -6
PantherU, What's up with the fixation of keeping bringing me up? Isn't this thread about who will be the next coach? I don't have an agenda, I'm not part of a conspiracy, and I'm not affiliated with the university. I'm simply a fan who's good with spreadsheets and statistics. With your imagination of conspiracy theories perhaps a message board to discuss Area 51 or the Moon Landing would be better suited for you. That's cute. Apparently you haven't been to PantherU lately. I don't blame you, we're not fixated on talking about the last head coach's record. I guess I would if bringing up Jeter's win-loss record was the only way I could win an argument. When you buy your next car, are you going to bring up Jeter's winning percentage to get some money off? |
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Post by PantherU on Mar 30, 2016 18:39:26 GMT -6
Stephenson is more than just a recruiter which seems to be a code word for black coach. Ummmm...no. Go away with your worries over "code words", "micro-aggressions", and "Safe Spaces". It means his role on the staff is to led the recruiting effort, not necessarily on court coaching. You know.....kind of like what TJ does. Oh...and just in case you didn't know....TJ might not be black. Quoted simply because that picture is ridiculously huge and I think it would be funny to dominate a page with another one. |
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Post by Pantherholic on Mar 30, 2016 20:31:47 GMT -6
The lack of known candidates is interesting and frustrating. Yes these guys have been reported but are they being interviewed this weekend or were they contacted by the committee with nothing materializing from it? Granted, our last hire was so blatantly obvious there was never any surprise or doubt of who it would be. Amanda does not seem to be tipping her hand on anything. When word of these guys being contacted was reported, it seems like it'd be during the initial screening time. My guess is we won't find anything out until next late next week at the earliest.
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Post by 73withharoldlee on Mar 30, 2016 20:33:41 GMT -6
Bottom line is this poster thinks Coach Stephenson is more qualified and African American than the guy from Thomas More high School. I will dare say MSU has a better program than
ISU. So if the MSU guy is interested the black guy gets the job. Do you agree or are you stuck on the white guy from TM?
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Post by parkerj on Mar 30, 2016 21:02:43 GMT -6
The lack of known candidates is interesting and frustrating. Yes these guys have been reported but are they being interviewed this weekend or were they contacted by the committee with nothing materializing from it? Granted, our last hire was so blatantly obvious there was never any surprise or doubt of who it would be. Amanda does not seem to be tipping her hand on anything. When word of these guys being contacted was reported, it seems like it'd be during the initial screening time. My guess is we won't find anything out until next late next week at the earliest. As long as it doesn't come out on Friday, I'm happy. |
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Post by theDarkHawkReturns on Mar 30, 2016 22:07:25 GMT -6
Bottom line is this poster thinks Coach Stephenson is more qualified and African American than the guy from Thomas More high School. I will dare say MSU has a better program than ISU. So if the MSU guy is interested the black guy gets the job. Do you agree or are you stuck on the white guy from TM? I guess I need to say this, even though it is ridiculously obvious. I could care less if the next coach is green with pink spots, has 3 legs and 8 eyes, and speaks Klingon fluently....as long as he, or she for that matter, is the best coach available. You do realize that I have been flamed here a lot lately for supporting Rob Jeter....who you may not be aware is not white. Jeez.....this is sports...no on cares at all what someone looks like, who they sleep with or who they pray to, or if they even pray at all. The only thing we want is wins, championships, honor and effort. Finally, for the record, TJ has been at the high D1 level for a long time now (a full decade), so calling him the guy from TM is pretty petty and frankly stupid, and you should stop. Oh, and I HATE to do this to you since you are such a huge fan and basketball genius, but the guy you are so sure is the most qualified's name is not Stephenson, it's Stephens....Dwayne STEPHENS. At least you knew what color he was, though. Good for you. |
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Post by PantherU on Mar 30, 2016 22:45:56 GMT -6
Anyone live in Houston?
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Post by jboogie on Mar 31, 2016 8:14:57 GMT -6
It's interesting, I've read everyone's responses and while I think all of these guys are capable, I truly think the ONE guy no one mentioned on here whose the best is Tracy Webster. He has been known for quite some time as one of the best recruiters in the Midwest.
He is close with the head coach of one the best AAU teams in the Milwaukee area (The team that Diamond Stone and Vander Blu played with).
When he was the interim head coach at DePaul and he was not given that job. Two of the top AAU head coaches in Chicago warned the AD at DePaul, if they didn't hire Webster, DePaul would NOT get any of their players. Well they hired Oliver Purnell and Purnell did not get ONE player from those teams in his entire tenure at DePaul, while those players went all over the country.
These are the ties that the next head coach of UWM needs. Webster still gets the top talent at Cal. He was instrumental in Cal having the top recruiting class in the nation this year and recruiting two players who are going to be lottery picks in this years draft.
I know he's not the ONLY one who has had success in recruiting but he has deep ties in the area and what UWM needs is to keep the true talent close to home. That's what will revitalize UWM. I hope they hire and go after Tracy Webster!
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Post by jboogie on Mar 31, 2016 8:19:33 GMT -6
The lack of known candidates is interesting and frustrating. Yes these guys have been reported but are they being interviewed this weekend or were they contacted by the committee with nothing materializing from it? Granted, our last hire was so blatantly obvious there was never any surprise or doubt of who it would be. Amanda does not seem to be tipping her hand on anything. When word of these guys being contacted was reported, it seems like it'd be during the initial screening time. My guess is we won't find anything out until next late next week at the earliest. It is frustrutating that there aren't more "WOW" candidates but I guess the reality of it is, Horizon League, UWM is not a job that will bring those guys here. This is a job that is great for a top assistant or a emerging coach at a lower level school. I'm personally tired of the retreads because in all seriousness, why do we want someone who has been fired from another University. I know that doesn't mean they're not capable but it means they weren't able to get the job done. So I say go with someone who is eager and wants to grow with the University. |
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Post by mke2chi on Mar 31, 2016 9:59:04 GMT -6
FWIW, the search is being assisted by Daniel Parker and Parker Executive Search...main reason why there is little to no information other than media speculation: jobs.uwm.edu/postings/25005 |
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Post by 73withharoldlee on Mar 31, 2016 10:27:02 GMT -6
Dark hawk, thanks for correcting my mistake. You are obviously brilliant. I have been around a long time and as a coach and player. I have scouted at the DII level. I can take criticism and continue to learn new things everyday, but don't appreciate being call stupid. Sarcasm is a difficult thing when writing or offering opinion. Name calling belongs in the fifth grade. I seriously do not get why you cannot understand that hiring an African American coach might be important to some people. Think before you speak my dear friend you do not know the color of my skin.
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Post by theDarkHawkReturns on Mar 31, 2016 11:41:54 GMT -6
Dark hawk, thanks for correcting my mistake. You are obviously brilliant. I have been around a long time and as a coach and player. I have scouted at the DII level. I can take criticism and continue to learn new things everyday, but don't appreciate being call stupid. Sarcasm is a difficult thing when writing or offering opinion. Name calling belongs in the fifth grade. I seriously do not get why you cannot understand that hiring an African American coach might be important to some people. Think before you speak my dear friend you do not know the color of my skin. Allow me to reiterate my position on this: This is sports... I don't care at all what someone looks like, who they sleep with or who they pray to, or if they even pray at all. The only thing we want is wins, championships, honor and effort. What that means is that the best candidate is the best candidate....and I am against the use of someone's race as a qualifier for hiring....it was wrong when Bull Connor advocated for it, and it is still wrong now. |
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Post by parkerj on Mar 31, 2016 12:41:12 GMT -6
FWIW, the search is being assisted by Daniel Parker and Parker Executive Search...main reason why there is little to no information other than media speculation: jobs.uwm.edu/postings/25005It looks like Miller has the plurality here? I'll let my dad know. |
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