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Post by gbphoenix1 on Mar 22, 2016 5:37:08 GMT -6
I have always appreciated your enthusiasm Hawk but there are state laws and regs at play here. You can't just fire someone that quickly. You also can't just hire a replacement without a search, a long enough period for interested parties to apply etc. etc. I do believe Gard was hired without such process. There are ways around things... The Badgers job was posted in February and had 50 something applications, most seemed to be jokes. Lindsey Hunter and Henry Bibby were the only names reported to apply that were actual basketball guys, although there may have been others in season who didn't get reported. Gard was hired in March, so yes the rules apply even in Madison.
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Post by uwm97 on Mar 22, 2016 6:02:11 GMT -6
God bless the great Scott Walker though am I right?? Okay, I've had just about enough of this partisan nonsense. Since I graduated in 1997, guess how much tuition and fee have increased? Over 450%!!! That is roughly 400% over the cost of real inflation in the United States. In that time period, wages have risen slightly, all the while this country went through tech bubbles and credit crises, nearly bringing down the entire world economy while hundreds of thousands of jobs were lost. There were a lot of victims throughout these years, but the UW-system most definitely is NOT one of them.
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Post by jhart05 on Mar 22, 2016 6:30:55 GMT -6
Reports from gomkepanthers are that Braun has a friend who's known simply as The Exterminator. Unfortunately, I'm not surprised that there's digs against me as I'm not going with the narrative on this board. I'm frankly puzzled why people are so mystified why Rob Jeter was fired based on his performance. Could it have been handled better especially from a Public Relations standpoint, certainly, but unfortunately we don't live in an ideal world. I understand that it may be more fun to throw the AD under the bus but when is it time to move on? When is it time to stop crying over spilled milk and move forward? The time for many will be when Braun has left our university. Will someone please explain it to this person? Apparently she still doesn't get it. If you still think we are upset only because Jeter was fired, then it's no wonder why our athletics department is in such a mess right now. I can't take much more of this guys. I need to take a break from the board. I'll see you later.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Mar 22, 2016 6:55:23 GMT -6
Reports from gomkepanthers are that Braun has a friend who's known simply as The Exterminator. Unfortunately, I'm not surprised that there's digs against me as I'm not going with the narrative on this board. I'm frankly puzzled why people are so mystified why Rob Jeter was fired based on his performance. Could it have been handled better especially from a Public Relations standpoint, certainly, but unfortunately we don't live in an ideal world. I understand that it may be more fun to throw the AD under the bus but when is it time to move on? When is it time to stop crying over spilled milk and move forward? Rob Jeter has been gone for a week now. His time here is over. It wasn't a great era, but it was hardly a bad one either. Historically, it was the second-best era we've had. There were a mixture of high points and low points. As an optimistic person, I tend to remember the high times more. Anyway, this really isn't about him at all. What it's about is the way players, parents, fans and donors -- MAJOR donors -- have been mistreated for the last three years. After making a commitment to the program, players and donors have in essence been told that their opinions and feelings don't matter. How can you "move forward" in that kind of climate? Indeed, isn't it you who's looking over your shoulder? If you guys are so confident that you've won the battle, why are you still waging it on this board?
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Post by apaladino on Mar 22, 2016 8:15:46 GMT -6
Reports from gomkepanthers are that Braun has a friend who's known simply as The Exterminator. Unfortunately, I'm not surprised that there's digs against me as I'm not going with the narrative on this board. I'm frankly puzzled why people are so mystified why Rob Jeter was fired based on his performance. Could it have been handled better especially from a Public Relations standpoint, certainly, but unfortunately we don't live in an ideal world. I understand that it may be more fun to throw the AD under the bus but when is it time to move on? When is it time to stop crying over spilled milk and move forward? The problem is, many donors and fans ARE MOVING ON....on to different teams to support. Fire Braun, and then we can have that discussion about moving on.
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Post by theDarkHawkReturns on Mar 22, 2016 8:20:34 GMT -6
Fire Braun, and then we can have that discussion about moving on. Sadly there is about s much chance of this, IMO, as there is that Jimmy gets hired to replace her as the new AD. She is "protected", if you know what I mean....this is a University, after all...results are not always the most important factor in such decisions.
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Post by gomkepanthers on Mar 22, 2016 8:21:02 GMT -6
Unfortunately, I'm not surprised that there's digs against me as I'm not going with the narrative on this board. I'm frankly puzzled why people are so mystified why Rob Jeter was fired based on his performance. Could it have been handled better especially from a Public Relations standpoint, certainly, but unfortunately we don't live in an ideal world. I understand that it may be more fun to throw the AD under the bus but when is it time to move on? When is it time to stop crying over spilled milk and move forward? Rob Jeter has been gone for a week now. His time here is over. It wasn't a great era, but it was hardly a bad one either. Historically, it was the second-best era we've had. There were a mixture of high points and low points. As an optimistic person, I tend to remember the high times more. Anyway, this really isn't about him at all. What it's about is the way players, parents, fans and donors -- MAJOR donors -- have been mistreated for the last three years. After making a commitment to the program, players and donors have in essence been told that their opinions and feelings don't matter. How can you "move forward" in that kind of climate? Indeed, isn't it you who's looking over your shoulder? If you guys are so confident that you've won the battle, why are you still waging it on this board? To be clear, I have no affiliation with the university, the athletic department, or the athletic director. I’m just a person that believes that the Milwaukee Panthers can do better as a program as what was achieved under Rob Jeter and I certainly welcome a change in the head coaching position. I’m interested in what a new coach can do with the program. A lot of the calls for the Athletic Director to be fired sounded to me like fans who have a friendship with Rob Jeter and were hurt that he was let go. Also, it sounded like some donor’s egos were bruised because they were not consulted by the Athletic Director in her decision to fire Coach Jeter and to move in a new direction.
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Post by uwm97 on Mar 22, 2016 8:21:36 GMT -6
Braun's not getting fired, people. Firing her after she names a head coach would be even dumber than anything that's transpired up to this point.
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Post by theDarkHawkReturns on Mar 22, 2016 8:23:51 GMT -6
Braun's not getting fired, people. Firing her after she names a head coach would be even dumber than anything that's transpired up to this point. No....letting her hire a coach is dumber....firing her after that is Dumb and Dumber.
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Post by theDarkHawkReturns on Mar 22, 2016 8:36:33 GMT -6
To be clear, I have no association with the university, the athletic department, or the athletic director. I’m just a person that believes that the Milwaukee Panthers can do better as a program as what was achieved under Rob Jeter and I certainly welcome a change in the head coaching position. I’m interested in what a new coach can do with the program. A lot of the calls for the Athletic Director being fired sounded to me like fans who have a friendship with Rob Jeter and were hurt that he was let go. Also, it sounded like some donor’s egos were bruised because they were not consulted by the Athletic Director in her decision to fire Coach Jeter and to move in a new direction. I wonder if you understand how major college athletics works....Major Donors are Major Donors because Major Donors BUY the right to be consulted...and the AD's do that because they NEED Major Donors. The fact that they are pissed is, ummmm, pretty relevant and important. To gloss over it is both naive and silly. The fact you seem to not get this is perhaps the best evidence that you ARE affiliated with the Milwaukee Athletic Department....or maybe ARE the Athletic Director herself!!! The rest of us are just as pissed, not because we are friends with Rob Jeter (I for one am not, and never was...I just respected the man and his character). More than that, though, I am pissed about her treatment of the players and the team. She has used them as pans in her games with a coach she was desperate to remove, denied them opportunities they will never have again, and lied about it to their faces. This is not principled behavior or the actions of a leader. It is deplorable, childish, ass-hattery, and anyone who defends it should be ashamed of themselves.
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Post by Hack on Mar 22, 2016 9:15:17 GMT -6
Other Horizon League fans be like ...
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Post by PantherU on Mar 22, 2016 9:53:16 GMT -6
To be clear, I have no affiliation with the university, the athletic department, or the athletic director. Do you actually expect anyone to believe this? LOL
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Post by ghostofdylan on Mar 22, 2016 10:29:35 GMT -6
I'll add this:
There were three considerate, dignified ways for the Jeter regime to come to an end.
1, Let the team play in the postseason and then buy out the remaining year of his contract.
2, Give him his pink slip, elevate Chad Boudreau to interim coach and let the team play. Then do a coaching search after it was over.
3, Extend him by one year and allow him to finish his contract with a roster dominated by seniors and say goodbye at season's end.
NONE of them were chosen. An effective administrator needs to be tactful and tactical; this one was neither.
That is why so many of us are up in arms.
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Post by theDarkHawkReturns on Mar 22, 2016 10:43:43 GMT -6
I'll add this: There were three considerate, dignified ways for the Jeter regime to come to an end. 1, Let the team play in the postseason and then buy out the remaining year of his contract. 2, Give him his pink slip, elevate Chad Boudreau to interim coach and let the team play. Then do a coaching search after it was over. 3, Extend him by one year and allow him to finish his contract with a roster dominated by seniors and say goodbye at season's end. NONE of them were chosen. An effective administrator needs to be tactful and tactical; this one was neither. That is why so many of us are up in arms. Not doing any of these 3 things was bad enough. The following things turned it into a 5 alarm dumpster fire: Keeping major donors totally in the dark Lying to players and their families Lying to donors Creating propoganda aliases on this board to pretend that Braun has even 1 supporter in the fan base Texting the decision to the players Acting like a clueless buffoon in the press conference Claiming poverty as the reason a Europe trip was prohibited and then spending $400k to fire Jeter Making basketball compete with flag football for practice space Waiting almost 5 days to meet with the team face to face after the firing
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Post by pantherproud on Mar 22, 2016 10:59:21 GMT -6
I think most of you need to take a breath and relax. As a long time Panther fan, alum and season ticket holder I too am concerned about how the firing was handled in regards to the communication with the players. However, most of your arguments as to why you are upset are unreasonable. We can go back multiple years on this very forum and find your own quotes about wanting Jeter gone and now when it finally happens you are upset?? That makes no sense. He was a nice guy, average coach, lacked the energy to attract new fans and the program went backwards from where it was under Pearl in both record and attendance. If Braun hires someone ("with a little fire") as she said, that is better than Jeter (ie TJ Otzelberger, etc) will you still be upset? None of you are the AD, and all of us went a great program so let's see who is hired and then move forward.
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