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Post by ghostofdylan on Jan 27, 2013 12:11:20 GMT -6
"Anyone know why Kyle Kelm hasn't been playing?"
"Jeter has benched him indefinitely until he decides he wants to care."
So, where's the similar corrective action for James Haarsma? There's no future with him and his season -- like the team's -- has spiraled out of control.
If there's any chance -- however remote -- of salvaging Kyle or Evan, try to do something now or get ready to wave goodbye.
Which would leave us with three returnees next season who have seen any playing time.
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Post by Spirit of Bruce on Jan 27, 2013 12:58:13 GMT -6
Sometimes you just have to cut people loose. If you are getting a free ride to play basketball, and don't care about basketball, why should we keep you here?
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Post by apaladino on Jan 27, 2013 18:22:12 GMT -6
We don't need to look very far back for the evidence. Until 1999, this was a joke of a program with almost no history, no fan support, and no reason to believe it would ever amount to much of anything. Pretty bleak when you think about it. Yeah but even the teams prior to 1999 had a win against Wisconsin, and a player drafted in the NBA....some things to hang your hat on. |
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Post by PANTHERfan on Jan 27, 2013 20:56:01 GMT -6
We don't need to look very far back for the evidence. Until 1999, this was a joke of a program with almost no history, no fan support, and no reason to believe it would ever amount to much of anything. Pretty bleak when you think about it. Yeah but even the teams prior to 1999 had a win against Wisconsin, and a player drafted in the NBA....some things to hang your hat on. The Wisconsin team UWM beat in 1992 hadn't sniffed the NCAA tourney since the 1940's. Not exactly a win to hang your hat on. And our ONE NBA draftee never played a second on the court. Cool, but not something to build a program around about. This program has more history in the last ten years than it has in nearly everything that proceeded it. So let's not go off the deep end after one crazy bad season, even when we have at the helm one of the worst coaches in the NCAA. Things can and will get better. I probably won't spend money watching the rebuilding, but it will improve. |
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Post by hueyp on Jan 28, 2013 6:54:17 GMT -6
"The Wisconsin team UWM beat in 1992 hadn't sniffed the NCAA tourney since the 1940's. Not exactly a win to hang your hat on."
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I don't post often but I can't let this one pass without comment. As a Panther Fan that was actually at that game (and one who attended weekday afternoon games at the KC when they were still Division 3) that was a HUGE win to "hang your hat on."
Milwaukee, a newly-minted D1 team, defeated a Stu-Jackson-coached BIG 10 team that boasted both Tracy Webster and Michael Finley and would play in the NCAA tournament the next year. Milwaukee was given no chance to win by all observers. I will never forget the looks on the smug Badger fans' faces when they realized that this was not going to be another non-conference cupcake game. Craig Greene's two-handed reverse slam was one of the many highlights of that day.
By the way, Milwaukee finished 23-4 that year and defeated both Wisconsin and UWGB (still coached by Dick Bennett and still good), and Wisconsin defeated Marquette. Milwaukee was so new to D1 that they were not eligible for the MCC automatic bid but would have had a good shot in the conference tourney.
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Post by A Statement By SHAUN on Jan 28, 2013 7:46:38 GMT -6
"The Wisconsin team UWM beat in 1992 hadn't sniffed the NCAA tourney since the 1940's. Not exactly a win to hang your hat on." -1 I don't post often but I can't let this one pass without comment. As a Panthen Fan that was actually at that game (and one who attended weekday afternoon games at the KC when they were still Division 3) that was a HUGE win to "hang your hat on." Milwaukee, a newly-minted D1 team, defeated a Stu-Jackson-coached BIG 10 team that boasted both Tracy Webster and Michael Finley and would play in the NCAA tournament the next year. Milwaukee was given no chance to win by all observers. I will never forget the looks on the smug Badger fans' faces when they realized that this was not going to be another non-conference cupcake game. Craig Greene's two-handed reverse slam was one of the many highlights of that day. By the way, Milwaukee finished 23-4 that year and defeated both Wisconsin and UWGB (still coached by Dick Bennett and still good), and Wisconsin defeated Marquette. Milwaukee was so new to D1 that they were not eligible for the MCC automatic bid but would have had a good shot in the conference tourney. Just wondering, is there any video of the win against Madison?? |
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Post by apaladino on Jan 28, 2013 9:09:40 GMT -6
Could you imagine being 0-28 against the Badgers, and 0 for whatever against marquette. At least we own Parkside. Wait, we lost to them and should have lost to them at least one more time. But, at least Green Bay hasn't beaten Marquette or Wisconsin......wait.....they have.....recently.... Personally, I along with many Milwaukee fans (and Marquette fans) and alum will never forget beating UW-Madison. Outside of the tournament wins, the biggest win for this program.....easy.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Jan 28, 2013 9:56:16 GMT -6
I was at the game with huey and the stage was unmistakably large. We left the cozy confines of the Klotsche Center for a day to play at the state's then-basketball mecca, the Fieldhouse.
I'll never forget the spin move and dunk that Marc Mitchell made to help ice the game.
I wish that something had been planned to honor the 1992-93 team along with the 2002-03 team this season.
Mitchell. Craig Greene. Ray Perine. Marc Briggs. Eugene Sims.
A mostly Milwaukee-area team that was exceedingly fun to watch.
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Post by Hack on Jan 28, 2013 10:07:52 GMT -6
I wish that something had been planned to honor the 1992-93 team along with the 2002-03 team this season. Being grouped in with the 2002-03 team: www.uwmpanthers.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/012113aaa.html"UWM's 1992-93 will also be recognized on Feb. 9. The team is still the only men's basketball squad in school history to beat Wisconsin and its 23 victories are third-most in the school's Division I history." |
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Post by ghostofdylan on Jan 28, 2013 10:11:43 GMT -6
Excellent!
This sounds too well-organized to be true.
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Post by Hack on Jan 28, 2013 10:17:00 GMT -6
Who's bringing the "RETIRE #30!" sign that night?
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Post by PANTHERfan on Jan 28, 2013 11:19:15 GMT -6
Alright, I'll concede that the UW win was certainly a nice one. I remember watching it on TV. It was probably the first time I had seen UWM play on tv (maybe it was?). And the GB win was big too. What a shame that team didn't get the opportunity to play in the post-season. I started school the following season only to see things decline. Though Shannon Smith was fun to watch.
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Post by PantherLou on Jan 28, 2013 12:51:32 GMT -6
Just once, I would like to hear Jeter suggest that he is also responsible for motivating these young men. I seriously wonder if he understands this. First minute. Nope, that's just a generic post game sound-bite. I'm talking about specifically addressing players such as: Tyrone Young Tim Flowers Kevin Johnson Roman Gentry Ryan Thorton James Dean Brad Carroll Lonnie Boga Ja'Rob McCallum Shaq Boga ..and I am sure that there are several more that I am missing. It appears that this year's additions to that list will be Kyle Kelm and Evan Richard. Just about every name on that list came to Milwaukee with pretty big expectations. And just about every one left with the same story: "he's too dumb to play" "he doesn't work hard enough" "he's just a terrible player - we're better off without him" "he doesn't play defense" "he's got an out of control ego" "he's a locker room cancer" etc, etc, etc... So either one of 2 things must be true: a) we are making consistently terrible recruiting mistakes. b) we have a program that consistently fails to develop players. I think the problem is the latter, but even if it is the former, the reality is that Rob Jeter has never addressed this HUGE GAPING FLAW in our program. That's what I want to hear. I'm not holding my breath. |
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Post by ghostofdylan on Jan 28, 2013 13:10:46 GMT -6
Aside from James Dean, all of the aforementioned players arrived with large expectations.
Here's the problem: the regular non-development and departure of expected four-year contributors like Lonnie, Shaquille and Ja' Rob has caught up to us, depriving the program of continuity and depth.
Tell me that this team, which now features just a seven-man rotation, couldn't use the three players named above, two of whom would be fourth-year juniors.
When all three left, all I heard in reply was "Who needs 'em?"
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Post by hippy on Jan 28, 2013 15:18:42 GMT -6
whats up with Jeter's hair doo? Can't a brother get a fade? He got a hair doo-doo!
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