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Post by uwm97 on Mar 14, 2012 10:52:32 GMT -6
I like Boudreau. However, if he were to replace Jeter and incorporate the same boring, unimaginative style of half-court basketball? No thanks.
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Post by Hack on Mar 14, 2012 10:56:10 GMT -6
Hire the Whitewater coach?
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Post by BBFran on Mar 14, 2012 11:25:03 GMT -6
Last year board posters were gnashing their teeth that Rob might go. This year board posters can't show him the door fast enough. You'll excuse me if I find both reactions ridiculous and insignificant.
Every successful coach will have opportunities every year. Every smart young coach will (and should) explore those opportunities. And it almost always happens when fans are in high dudgeon about the end of the season or are transfixed by tournament excitement. In either case, their ability to be objective about what is really happening is severely compromised.
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Post by teddyp00 on Mar 14, 2012 11:48:15 GMT -6
I honestly do not see Nebraska offering Jeter the job. He has no direct ties to the university and lacks the true mid major success, this year or term, that should intrigue their program.
Btw...if Smart ends up in the big 10 it will be filling weber's seat.
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Post by uwm97 on Mar 14, 2012 11:49:01 GMT -6
Hey Fran, the only excitement I'm transfixed by is the potential of the university coming out from underneath an onerous contract of an overrated coach. Nobody views this program as a top-3 contender in the HL next season. I'm sure Jeter is smart enough to see this as well, so this might (finally) be the opportunity he pursues. But what the hell do I know as my views are "insignificant" as opposed to yours, which are obviously non-partisan, measured, and objective.
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Post by BBFran on Mar 14, 2012 12:05:43 GMT -6
Never expect your opinion to signify anything on a message board. Especially in a thread like this, which is just a choir singing dirges to itself.
My opinion, which has similar value here, is the same one I gave last year. If Rob chooses to go, I'll wish him well and we'll move on. If Rob chooses to stay, I'm completely fine with that. The actual chances that we would hire someone who would suddenly or even eventually elevate the program over what Rob has done or will do are about 1 in 5. Bad odds.
But who knows -- maybe Bryce Drew will be available. The bum couldn't even win the HL championship game at home. Their fans must be getting damn restless.
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Post by uwm97 on Mar 14, 2012 12:15:02 GMT -6
I don't recall many on this board calling for Jeter to be fired after last season. In fact, it was mentioned that the view on Rob was generally the opposite. Now, I think the Drew scenario in Valpo you theorized will not be far-fetched next season if that team gets dominated in the HL Quarterfinals amid much higher expectations, then mails in a performance in a third or fourth-rate post-season tournament game.
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Post by PantherU on Mar 14, 2012 12:36:50 GMT -6
If Jeter leaves ... Promote Chad Boudreau. Bing! We need to close rank around Chad Boudreau the second Jeter takes the job.
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Post by bulldogger on Mar 14, 2012 12:46:53 GMT -6
After Jeter bolts, hire back Biddlingmeyer!
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Post by BBFran on Mar 14, 2012 13:11:12 GMT -6
To say this getting ahead of itself is hilarious understatement. I'm 20 times more interested in our recruiting the next couple weeks than I am about coaching rumors with no legs.
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Post by JG Panthers on Mar 14, 2012 13:15:16 GMT -6
The actual chances that we would hire someone who would suddenly or even eventually elevate the program over what Rob has done or will do are about 1 in 5. Bad odds. Do you have any statistical evidence to back up this figure? What were the odds we would hire someone to improve the program after Ric Cobb, Bo Ryan and Bruce Pearl? Because if history is any indication, our chances of improving are actually probably much better than 1 for 5, but I have no statistical data to back that up. Of course then you have to take into account the fact that everybody's definition of "elevating the program" is much different. Come to think of it you must have just used those odds for arguments sake, huh?
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Post by uwm97 on Mar 14, 2012 13:26:47 GMT -6
A rumor with no legs? So Nebraska isn't going to talk to Jeter?
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Post by BBFran on Mar 14, 2012 13:44:48 GMT -6
JG, you're right. My estimate. But assuming it's as low a risk as 1 in 3 (which I doubt) I still don't like those odds. And you're right, how you define success is also germane to the question. I define success (on the court) as contending. We have done that at least 3 out of 7 years with Rob, and both of the last two. If you contend, you'll have a good chance to go to the tournament if that's how you define success. To me getting there is a lucky strike extra in a one bid league. Nice when it happens, but if not making it is failure, then a lot of coaches should get fired every year or at least every couple years, which is absurd. Off the court success is EQUALLY important. The program should be run with high standards for conduct and academics. Ultimately, the purpose of the program should be to deliver a quality academic/life/athletic experience to the student participants and, secondarily, great entertainment to the fans. I had a blast this year following the team through its ups and downs, as I always do.
Speaking of odds, they still very much favor the likelihood that our coach next year will be -- Rob Jeter.
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Post by uwm97 on Mar 14, 2012 14:18:26 GMT -6
Please elaborate on what your definition of "contending" is. Top 3 regular season? Top 5? HL Tourney semis or championship? "Contending" is a subjective term that can mean anything unless quantified.
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Post by Title on Mar 14, 2012 14:19:41 GMT -6
Dakich thinks the Nebraska job will go to Ohio's John Groce.
I do not know if I agree with that though, because Groce was at Butler as Collier left for the Nebraska job. (He'd have pretty specific information on why its an impossible role)
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