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Post by ghostofdylan on Feb 18, 2012 21:22:12 GMT -6
Well, a suggested arena size and location (Norris Health Center).
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Post by Hack on Feb 18, 2012 21:25:05 GMT -6
Gotcha. I figured they were still in exploratory stages and capacity hasn't been determined. Didn't know he had that preference for size.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Feb 18, 2012 21:31:21 GMT -6
Hack, he's the one who told us that he wants to "make it a tough ticket."
Why not build this thing at 3,500?
After all, there's only 30,000 students at this university.
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Feb 18, 2012 21:40:10 GMT -6
With the new arena if/when it happens, UWM will not be doing $1 kids tickets and 2 seats for $99 on season-tickets.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Feb 18, 2012 21:58:36 GMT -6
Williams, Panthers warriors against Fairfield www.jsonline.com/sports/panthers/139595483.htmlBasically, Milwaukee defeated one of the top two teams in the MAAC with one hand tied behind its back. Impressive. (And why some on here continue to stump for a Davidson-sized arena is totally beyond reason).
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Post by Super King on Feb 19, 2012 0:30:29 GMT -6
FYI, that game -- against Fairfield in a "meaningless" non-conference game -- drew more than Rick Costello's proposed arena would hold. You have to understand that cost is absolutely a factor, and we did fall short of our recent fundraising expectations. As much as it might pain some of us, a 7000 seat arena might be way out of our price range.
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Post by jhart05 on Feb 19, 2012 7:26:49 GMT -6
Hack, he's the one who told us that he wants to "make it a tough ticket." Why not build this thing at 3,500? After all, there's only 30,000 students at this university. Ahhh, too small of a city Dylan. What is the population in Milwaukee? Only a few 10's of thousands? A city this size will never be able to support an arena larger than 4k. Plus UWM is just a commuter school. 25,000 of those students all live way off campus and will never want to drive all the back to campus to watch a basketball game.
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Post by jhart05 on Feb 19, 2012 7:36:31 GMT -6
Build it at 7k and forget about it.
For a welcome change I would like to see UWM actually do something right from the beginning.
It's much cheaper to take out seats later (but I doubt they will need to) rather than finding out you need more and expanding later.
It would be an absolute fail building this thing to be a "tough ticket". I don't think I've heard a more ridiculous idea than that in a long time. We need fans. We don't need to be turning people away.
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Post by PANTHERfan on Feb 19, 2012 9:31:40 GMT -6
A 3,500 seat stadium certainly would create a tough ticket - a tough one to sell. We don't need a second Klotsche Center. Anything under 7k is a fail, period.
After failing to do both the obvious and right thing when we lost Moynihan to Northwestern, my faith in our AD's decision making went out the window.
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Feb 19, 2012 11:26:52 GMT -6
Let's stay on topic!
Why is it everytime the Panthers lay an egg, it's fire Jeter. Or, we have a nice crowd at the Cell, it's talk about a new arena.
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Post by PantherLou on Feb 19, 2012 12:12:26 GMT -6
player fouled out, so they should get their minute. No they shouldn't. They should sit right down like in the NBA, which doesn't tolerate that pseudo-timeout BS. That's all fine and good that YOU feel this way, but it doesn't mean a damn thing, since the rules allow a coach 1 minute to make a substitution when his player fouls out. The officials screwed up and were 100% in the wrong in this situation. It never should have gotten to the point of Johnson freaking out, but those 3 jokers had no clue what was going on. Had they simply signaled that the foul was on #41, Bob Brainerd would have announced it as his 5th foul and everyone would have known what was happening. They didn't toss Johnson because they realized that they caused the entire situation. You could even make the argument, which I sure some Fairfield fans are, that we scored 2 points due to a technical foul that never should have happened.
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Post by uwmalum2010 on Feb 19, 2012 12:32:52 GMT -6
No they shouldn't. They should sit right down like in the NBA, which doesn't tolerate that pseudo-timeout BS. That's all fine and good that YOU feel this way, but it doesn't mean a damn thing, since the rules allow a coach 1 minute to make a substitution when his player fouls out. The officials screwed up and were 100% in the wrong in this situation. It never should have gotten to the point of Johnson freaking out, but those 3 jokers had no clue what was going on. Had they simply signaled that the foul was on #41, Bob Brainerd would have announced it as his 5th foul and everyone would have known what was happening. They didn't toss Johnson because they realized that they caused the entire situation. You could even make the argument, which I sure some Fairfield fans are, that we scored 2 points due to a technical foul that never should have happened. I actually thought it was the Scorers' Table that kicked it. The officials go and report the foul, once the table figures out it is a player's fifth foul, they sound the horn again to bring it to their attention. The officials don't keep track of that stuff in their head. Unless it was a situation where the officials reported the foul on one player, and then reversed it to another. Then I didn't see that part.
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Post by PantherLou on Feb 19, 2012 12:41:05 GMT -6
I thought that too, and asked Bob Brainerd about it specifically after the game.
He told me that they announced the foul was on #4. Well, there is no #4 on the Fairfield roster. Apparently, everyone at the scorers table was trying to figure out who the foul was on, and none of the officials would tell them. Bob didn't find out until Tony was shooting the technical.
Bottom line is that there was confusion that could have been easily cleared up by the officials.
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Post by Hack on Feb 19, 2012 12:44:21 GMT -6
Bob didn't find out until Tony was shooting the technical. This is correct, because Bob didn't announce the fifth foul until after the free throws and with Milwaukee about to inbound the ball.
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Post by dutchpthr on Feb 19, 2012 16:27:01 GMT -6
Bottom line is that there was confusion that could have been easily cleared up by the officials. In this circumstance Fairfield fans have every right to be angry at the refs. They blew it when they were unable to proper relay whatever they deemed as a foul (which sure seemed to change as that game went along) and to a degree I think they deserved the reaction that the Fairfield coach gave them, although to go that far off the handle as he did was ejection worthy. Regardless of how terrible of job the officials do how he reacted he is lucky as hell he was allowed to stay in the game officials mix up or not
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