oh no!

[dutchpthr]

ok, so i can understand that there are people out there that have lost others to drunk driving or those who can't stand it and are sickened by it and everything that all makes sense to me and you are of course allowed your own feelings and beliefs but i have to ask everyone that is saying he needs to be removed from the team and all this, where were you on saying the same thing when Ricky had the same issue 2 or 3 years ago? I do not remember this kind of response to that situation as you seem to have here? Is it because Ricky did not have the K-9 unit after him? And if drunk driving is the issue here which i believe it is then why would you look at what happened to Ricky, another good kid in the majority's eyes, and see it different then what happen to Kaylon?

Now please don't take it as I'm trying to come down on Ricky by any means but this is basically the same situation, the only difference to me is that Kaylon had his situation happen in the off-season and not in season, so just a question really.......

Also I am not trying to trivialize drunk driving either by any means, it is a serious thing and I think does deserve to be looked at and taken very seriously without any doubt, just posing a question is all after all this is a discussion board.

[Rawls]

I don't remember the specifics with Ricky. With Kaylon, the reason I think there needs to be more than a slap on the wrist is the whole situation. Driving without a license, a BA level nearly three times the limit, then running from the cops. If anybody can bring back the specifics with Ricky, I'd appreciate it.

Ask yourself this honestly: What if Kaylon played for Marquette, UIC, Madison, Butler, gb, etc? If one of those schools then gave him a 3-game suspension, what would your reaction be? I'd expect a much different reaction here. Futbol said it. Playing on this team is a privilege, at least in my eyes. It's time to treat it as such.

[pnthr2bag]

Ive tried to stay away from this topic because it hits home way to much for me. Being a 27 year old recent college grad i was still living the milwaukee night life alittle too much. Last summer, i was involved in a head on accident while being under the influence. I ran from the cops, and ended up hiding for the night, only to turn myself in the next morning. No one was hurt, but im still sick to my stomach everytime i think about it. No DUI, but hit and run which easily could of been Hit and Run while under the influence.

When im sober that is the last thing i would ever involve myself in, and up to that point i lived a pretty clean and respectable life, but trust me when you get in that kind of situation, and your mind is altered you do very stupid things.

I ended up serving time in jail with work release and i think the best thing that could of happened was that i did not loose my job. It gave me a second chance, and i can honestly say that if i did loose my job, i dont know how much further i would of fell.

Ive since addressed my drinking issue with group therapy and AA meetings and have been sober for a little over 7 months now.

I guess my point of this post is, we all make mistakes in life and if you think taking basketball away from this kid is going to help him get over his bigger issue your wrong. It may only send him spiraling even further. I know Jeter at the University will look long and hard at this, and whatever the decision is i will support.

[BBFran]

Everyone here has presented VERY legitimate points of view. I understand the idea that playing is a privilege, but I also believe STRONGLY that college athletics is ultimately an educational program, and is part of the path from child to responsible adulthood for the students who participate in it. Kaylon will face the consequences of his actions in an Iowa court according to Iowa law, but I guarantee you that whoever the Judge is in his case he or she would want to know that in addition to whatever stick will be applied, there might also be a carrot to help this kid take a better path. Probably the best, most reliable structure in Kaylon's life right now is the UWM BB team. That is a large group of coaches, players and others who want to help him, and who will be in a position to stay close to him a large amount of the time during the school year. I have said repeatedly it's up to him to accept that help and do what he needs to do -- but why would we want to take that support away from him right now? How would that help Kaylon or the community? Thank God he didn't hurt anybody, which we all know is a grave danger with drunk driving. But his crime was born of recklessness and stupidity and substance abuse, not malice. That makes his situation very different from some past incidents such as those involving Torre Johnson or Leneal Harris. Unlike them, Kaylon wasn't trying to hurt anyone, and fortunately he didn't. He just hurt himself.

I'll let the coaches and the AD decide what school and team punishment is appropriate. We have a fine, trustworthy group of adults who will be making that decision with both the program's and Kaylon's interests at heart.

[uwmfutbol]

Aug 15, 2011 12:15:11 GMT -6 Big DWSU said:

Aug 15, 2011 8:17:25 GMT -6 uwmfutbol said:

The sad reality is that athletes should not only not get preferential treatment, but it's also a privilege to be on that team, not a right.

This is BS. The kid isn't getting preferential treatment. If another UWM student was arrested for drunk driving, would UWM do anything about it? I mean anything at all. I think we all know that the answer is NO. No one would be rambling on and on about how a regular student should be dealt with severely. So he sure in the hell isn't getting preferential treatment. If anything you are holding him to a much higher standard than your typical student.

This kid broke the law and he is going to have his day in court and he will have to pay his debt to society for a very big lapse in judgement.

I never said he was getting preferential treatment. But we know college athletes' mistakes get swept under the rug all the time. That's wrong. I'm glad that he's owning up to his actions, and whatever RJ decides is fine with me. It's just tough because these kids are held to higher standards, and they should be.

[Pantherholic]

Can anyone name a player who has been kicked off a team or sat down for an entire season because of a DUI? Half a season?

[uwmplanner]

Anybody have an update on Kaylon? After thinking about it and rereading the article trying to run away from the officer is just as almost just as bad as the DUI. I think that will make matters worse for him.

I think Ricky only got a one game suspension. I would guess Kaylon will miss the first couple (2-3)of games.

[kaygee]

Is Kaylon on campus?

[DunneDeal]

Kaylon is on campus saw him at the soccer game the other night.