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Post by Super King on Feb 27, 2011 23:51:38 GMT -6
According to sources, the answer may very well be yes. www.ourtown.com/nky/article/2010/2/28/will-nku-move-to-horizon-league.htmlNorthern Kentucky is currently 20-7. They lost by 11 to Xavier and 17 to Louisville in their exhibition season, the only games they played against Division 1 teams. A move by NKU would probably mean one of two things: that the university was dumping a leadweight, uncompetitive school (Youngstown), or that a 12th program is coming. Supposedly Oakland had expressed interest in joining a couple years ago, but I don't know their current feelings on the situation. They've done pretty well for themselves this year at 17-1 in the Summit and 22-9 overall and wouldn't be a bad piece to add, though that's just speculation. If the league does go to 12 teams, however, the current tournament format, which has worked quite well for the league, would have to change. |
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Post by buppie05 on Feb 28, 2011 0:05:31 GMT -6
NKU sounds fine, but I'd rather the horizon didn't have any geographical direction teams (Like Western or Eastern Illinios ect.)
I like the idea of adding Oakland, and really like the idea of dropping YSU. I know YSU almost beat us, but this was likely a standout year for them, and we should jump at the chance for an upgrade.
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Post by PantherU on Feb 28, 2011 1:19:13 GMT -6
A name isn't a reason to keep a team out. Not having a solid foundation is. They're just preparing to go D-I. Let's watch them play D-I for ten years before extending the invite.
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Post by jhart05 on Feb 28, 2011 9:03:44 GMT -6
If that's the school that I think I saw an article on about a year ago, they are ready for D1.
They have better facilities that we do, right now.
I'll try and find the article and pictures I saw.
The one thing I wouldn't like about that... does that mean 20 conference games?
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Post by uwmplanner on Feb 28, 2011 9:27:52 GMT -6
We had better be dropping Youngstown then. Mark me down as somebody who is not favor of expanding to 12 teams. I love the fact you play everybody home and away and you get a true champion, not like the Big East, Big 12 or Big 10 where the champ can be determined by who has an easier schedule.
I don't give a crap about their facilities, can't we hold out for something better than a D2 school to jump? The more I think about it I don't like it.
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Post by BBFran on Feb 28, 2011 9:41:55 GMT -6
I love the 10 team league format and would prefer not to change it. If we are looking to expand, NKU is an okay geographic fit, and adds the Cincinnati market, but I can't say I'm too excited about them. I like the Oakland idea, as it gives Detroit a travel partner and they have upgraded their program substantially.
I have been saying for years I would prefer to invite YSU out. They are a football school that will never take hoops seriously, and they are by far the toughest road trip. It was a shame that our championship clinching game was played at the hardest possible location for our fans to reach.
My preference, often stated, is to dis-invite YSU and induce St. Louis to come on board. They would be much better off in the H league for all sports than being the loneliest western outpost of the "Atlantic" 10 -- they just don't want to admit it.
Edited because I had a brain slip and said NKU was in the Louisville market when in fact it's in a suburb of Cincy. That would make NKU a very good travel partner for Wright State, by the way.
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Post by uwmplanner on Feb 28, 2011 9:47:03 GMT -6
I love the 10 team league format and would prefer not to change it. If we are looking to expand, NKU is an okay geographic fit, and adds the Louisville market, but I can't say I'm too excited about them. I like the Oakland idea, as it gives Detroit a travel partner and they have upgraded their program substantially. I have been saying for years I would prefer to invite YSU out. They are a football school that will never take hoops seriously, and they are by far the toughest road trip. It was a shame that our championship clinching game was played at the hardest possible location for our fans to reach. My preference, often stated, is to dis-invite YSU and induce St. Louis to come on board. They would be much better off in the H league for all sports than being the loneliest western outpost of the "Atlantic" 10 -- they just don't want to admit it. +1 for the St Louis thought. I followed them closely when they hired Soderberg. They have a good fan base only question would be who their rival would be. |
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Feb 28, 2011 15:34:37 GMT -6
That link is from last year. We talked about this. I guess there is no new news on this?
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Post by coogles on Feb 28, 2011 17:39:59 GMT -6
NKU sounds fine, but I'd rather the horizon didn't have any geographical direction teams (Like Western or Eastern Illinios ect.) I like the idea of adding Oakland, and really like the idea of dropping YSU. I know YSU almost beat us, but this was likely a standout year for them, and we should jump at the chance for an upgrade. How is a directional name any worse than a hyphenated satellite name? There's no natural advantage UWM has over NKU. You guys weren't D1 until 1990...there's not some deep athletic tradition here that they don't have. Average attendance last year for Milwaukee? 2,883. NKU still pulled in 2,174 even without D1 opponents in the building and only half the number of students. Wasn't really trying to bash, although it probably sounded that way, but if the Horizon League did want to expand for whatever reason, all I'm trying to say is that NKU fits with what the Horizon has going already, especially with their facilities and location. I'd be all for it if we could drop YSU in the process. No sense in going to 12 teams unless it's an addition that helps the conference get into a position where it can work to achieve multiple bids on a regular basis. |
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Post by Pantherholic on Feb 28, 2011 17:54:36 GMT -6
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Post by buppie05 on Mar 1, 2011 3:16:42 GMT -6
NKU sounds fine, but I'd rather the horizon didn't have any geographical direction teams (Like Western or Eastern Illinios ect.) I like the idea of adding Oakland, and really like the idea of dropping YSU. I know YSU almost beat us, but this was likely a standout year for them, and we should jump at the chance for an upgrade. How is a directional name any worse than a hyphenated satellite name? There's no natural advantage UWM has over NKU. You guys weren't D1 until 1990...there's not some deep athletic tradition here that they don't have. Average attendance last year for Milwaukee? 2,883. NKU still pulled in 2,174 even without D1 opponents in the building and only half the number of students. Wasn't really trying to bash, although it probably sounded that way, but if the Horizon League did want to expand for whatever reason, all I'm trying to say is that NKU fits with what the Horizon has going already, especially with their facilities and location. I'd be all for it if we could drop YSU in the process. No sense in going to 12 teams unless it's an addition that helps the conference get into a position where it can work to achieve multiple bids on a regular basis. "how is a directional name any worse than a hyphenated satellite name" Its not, thats why its very important that we take this opportunity in the spotlight to drive home the fact that our only acceptable team name is the Milwaukee Panthers. I was just playing devils advocate. If we are gonna take on a team from Kentucky with a directional name though, we should probably look into Western Kentucky first, as they have bona fide results at this level. I like the idea of St. Louis. It would however be like asking Marquette to leave the Big east to come to a better geographic fit, so I'm not keeping my fingers crossed that it will happen. |
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Post by SRT4driver on Mar 1, 2011 4:07:32 GMT -6
How is a directional name any worse than a hyphenated satellite name? There's no natural advantage UWM has over NKU. You guys weren't D1 until 1990...there's not some deep athletic tradition here that they don't have. Average attendance last year for Milwaukee? 2,883. NKU still pulled in 2,174 even without D1 opponents in the building and only half the number of students. Wasn't really trying to bash, although it probably sounded that way, but if the Horizon League did want to expand for whatever reason, all I'm trying to say is that NKU fits with what the Horizon has going already, especially with their facilities and location. I'd be all for it if we could drop YSU in the process. No sense in going to 12 teams unless it's an addition that helps the conference get into a position where it can work to achieve multiple bids on a regular basis. "how is a directional name any worse than a hyphenated satellite name" Its not, thats why its very important that we take this opportunity in the spotlight to drive home the fact that our only acceptable team name is the Milwaukee Panthers. Well said. FYI Coogles, we are not a hyphenated satellite school any more than UW-Madison is. The only difference is we have trouble getting a$$hats to recognize and use our athletics name all of the time, while the Vadgers do not. |
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Post by coogles on Mar 1, 2011 5:26:05 GMT -6
"how is a directional name any worse than a hyphenated satellite name" Its not, thats why its very important that we take this opportunity in the spotlight to drive home the fact that our only acceptable team name is the Milwaukee Panthers. Well said. FYI Coogles, we are not a hyphenated satellite school any more than UW-Madison is. The only difference is we have trouble getting a$$hats to recognize and use our athletics name all of the time, while the Vadgers do not. True, although that ignores the little fact that Madison is the original campus, having first held classes there more than 100 years before the Milwaukee campus became a part of the UW system. |
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Post by GoPanthers33 on Mar 1, 2011 9:15:10 GMT -6
I honestly think we may have been called more names than any other school.
I have come across Milwaukee, UWM, UMW, Wisc-Milwaukee, UM, WM, UW-M and there may even be more...
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Post by pantherdon on Mar 1, 2011 11:27:28 GMT -6
You forgot UW-Wisconsin.
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