Rawls
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Everyone's Entitled To My Opinion
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Post by Rawls on Dec 31, 2010 9:07:29 GMT -6
Think our post game was ineffective against WSU? Saturday brings us to DeMarcus Lowe and Eli Holman. Oh Boy.
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Post by PJD on Dec 31, 2010 9:13:56 GMT -6
This team is so far off right now, that even if they start to pull things together, it will take 4-5 more games to get any stability in the way they play. A 10 or 12 win season is about all that should be expected. Mr. Costello has a huge decision to make in March. Everything we continue to discuss about advancing the program gets set back if they 'ride out' Rob's contract for several more years. It will be very difficult to propose the on campus area with this team and this coach. I'm sure Costello will immediately get pressure to submit balanced budgets and get the overall athletic program in the black. There needs to be a huge, huge turnaround, or Costello's first task is to figure out how to pay for a new coach. Try and get Bob Semling on the cheap? That would at least breath some life into the program. We need to figure out some way to finance an entry level salary for someone like Bob and give that a shot. There is no other way unless there's a massive turnaround, like 'win the HL tournament' type turnaround. Winning a few games at the end of the season will absolutely not cut it at this point. We've seen that trick from Rob's team's before (like last year). Look where we are now. Zero carry over from that.
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Post by uwmbacker24 on Dec 31, 2010 9:31:48 GMT -6
My fear is if we do let go of Rob that much like with Bruce Pearl all of the recruits will follow him and I can't stomach another horrible recruiting class like we had in Rob's first year.
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Post by uwm97 on Dec 31, 2010 9:44:21 GMT -6
This team is unwatchable now with good recruits. How's that worked out?
Jason Shay would come on the cheap I would think. He can recruit and runs a system that would at least make the games entertaining. He knows the area and has relationships here he built from '01-'06. Honestly, how could that be worse than the lifeless and dying program we're seeing now?
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Dec 31, 2010 9:47:45 GMT -6
For being one of the highest paid coach in the HL, I think the fan base looks for better results.
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Post by yuhayden on Dec 31, 2010 9:51:54 GMT -6
My fear is if we do let go of Rob that much like with Bruce Pearl all of the recruits will follow him and I can't stomach another horrible recruiting class like we had in Rob's first year. I agree. Gerry Faust always had blue chip recruiting classes at Notre Dame, too, and he got a raw deal, just like Rob is getting! |
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Post by gman2 on Dec 31, 2010 9:52:26 GMT -6
My fear is if we do let go of Rob that much like with Bruce Pearl all of the recruits will follow him and I can't stomach another horrible recruiting class like we had in Rob's first year. Hypothetically, if Rob were let go, where are the recruits to follow Rob to? It's not like the Pearl situation. In this situation the coach is not going to somewhere else to take over a bigger program. |
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Kingsbury
Junior
Sadly, no longer in the "Fear 42" Fan Club!!!
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Post by Kingsbury on Dec 31, 2010 9:59:31 GMT -6
This team is unwatchable now with good recruits. How's that worked out? Jason Shay would come on the cheap I would think. He can recruit and runs a system that would at least make the games entertaining. He knows the area and has relationships here he built from '01-'06. Honestly, how could that be worse than the lifeless and dying program we're seeing now? 97, I have had this conversation in the past with an individual who was associated with Tennessee. He is not sure if Shay is quite ready with no head coaching experience. His suggestion was bring in Forbes and Shay as a package deal. Forbes wants to get back into head coaching and will never get the push from Pearl with TJ on the staff. If Forbes has success he could leave and the reigns can be turned over to Shay. |
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Post by uwm97 on Dec 31, 2010 10:06:15 GMT -6
Kingsbury:
Sign me up.
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Post by longtimefan on Dec 31, 2010 10:40:54 GMT -6
Here's the deal: What is the likelihood that this team or any individual players, even, are going to get better as the year progresses?
Not very good, in my estimation.
Yeah, you might win some games, maybe a couple in a row, this player or that player gets some confidence and has a hot shooting night, but that's no way to run a program. Lose three, win two, lose one, win one.
Flat out disappointing. This city should support at least 3,000 or 4,000 people at the Cell every night for good mid-major basketball. It'll be a morgue the rest of this year.
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Post by PantherU on Dec 31, 2010 13:20:36 GMT -6
I think our seniors shouldn't be playing as much as they are. Tone is taking minutes and shots away from McCallum, when we are out of the picture for the postseason (at-large anyway) and need to get experience for the future.
It's disappointing to lose like we did yesterday and see Kyle Kelm playing four minutes. Did he teach JT to swear or something? On a good team, he's no worse than the sixth best player. He needs to be out there 20 minutes per game.
If you're waiting on a PantherU response to the game, know that I'm holding off until after the Detroit game. Not that I don't have a lot to say, but I want to hold off until we play tomorrow.
Tomorrow is the only game I am interested in, and I wish I could say the same for everyone here.
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Post by blackcatinorange on Dec 31, 2010 13:57:20 GMT -6
This team is so far off right now, that even if they start to pull things together, it will take 4-5 more games to get any stability in the way they play. A 10 or 12 win season is about all that should be expected. Mr. Costello has a huge decision to make in March. Everything we continue to discuss about advancing the program gets set back if they 'ride out' Rob's contract for several more years. It will be very difficult to propose the on campus area with this team and this coach. I'm sure Costello will immediately get pressure to submit balanced budgets and get the overall athletic program in the black. There needs to be a huge, huge turnaround, or Costello's first task is to figure out how to pay for a new coach. Try and get Bob Semling on the cheap? That would at least breath some life into the program. We need to figure out some way to finance an entry level salary for someone like Bob and give that a shot. There is no other way unless there's a massive turnaround, like 'win the HL tournament' type turnaround. Winning a few games at the end of the season will absolutely not cut it at this point. We've seen that trick from Rob's team's before (like last year). Look where we are now. Zero carry over from that. Would you compare Semling to Bo Ryan? I thought Ryan turned the whole program around in one year, making huge improvements......starting with the Dollar Store outfit Victor E used to wear all the way to the play on the court. He changed the entire image of UWM basketball and laid the foundation for Pearl. I just saw Bo doing that flippin' Bucky Dance on TV. Just can't see RJ doing something like that. |
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Post by buppie05 on Dec 31, 2010 14:09:38 GMT -6
Can you imagine how UIC fans felt for all those years? Is that where we're headed? Please no... At least UIC went to a few tournaments over several years. I just hope we are not headed down the road UWGB traveled under pmck. Rob wishes he could sniff the "success" pmck had at GB. How sad is that? Especially when you consider the resources, money and recruits that Rob has to work with, compared to what pmck had at GB. There are people who would be complacent with finishing 4th in conference every single season. I think that is aiming low for this program. Again sad, because the way we are playing we won't even sniff the top 5. Wasn't this supposed to be the breakout year? or is that next year again. |
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Post by buppie05 on Dec 31, 2010 14:47:51 GMT -6
One positive thing I will take away from last night, we did show up early. Too many times in the RJ era and especially this season we have gotten dumped on early, which is detrimental to a team that plays a style of offense that is more suited for the woman's game.
In 2004-2005 it wouldn't be panic time down by ten points, now its throw in the towel time. Last night we were successfully getting good looks close to the basket. We found the open player and hit the open shots we had. Its too bad all of those early efforts were just to keep us in the game, and once their defense adjusted they started to pull away. The only time we slowed their offense down was in the 2nd half when they were killing clock, and our offense in the 2nd half would have earned a high-school team laps after the game and 2 hours of "film" the next morning. Once the second half started and we turned the ball over a couple of times and they hit a couple quick 3's, the players had "here we go again" in their body language.
Kudos though for the first 15 minutes. That was entertaining basketball and I appreciated it.
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Post by PJD on Jan 1, 2011 0:23:12 GMT -6
Semling could definitely have that type of 'Bo Ryan' effect. If we expect to start to build an arena in the next year or two, we must have that. We cannot have what we have now. There's no way in hell with the environment as it is today in the program it would work for that type of building effort. I think we really need to start the push to build now with Costello coming on. This spring will be the time to do that; we need a fresh face on the program. I'm 99% sure Rob can't provide it at this point. It's really sad, but it's just not happening. It makes me sick. I have no idea why he can't turn this around, but for some reason, he just can't. He's really run out of time to show it. Maybe at some point he can. That might be 5,10 years from now though. He may never get the chance again after he leaves here. Who knows? We just have to cut the rope....
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