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Post by iceice on Dec 17, 2010 18:05:22 GMT -6
flipper clark, lemme tell you something: You will have to wait until later for me to give my recommendation, but you can bet your ass it's one of these three and not people from the past. Funny BP.... cosidering how high you and the entire Athletic Department were on George 2 years ago..... I sure hope one of these 3 carries a magic wand, but until they do some some house cleaning... it is never going to change regardless of who steps in as AD! Flipper Clark, I couldn't agree with you more. All the candidates sounded great and I'm excited to see a new leader brought in, but you ever wonder why UWM has a huge budget deficit, very little marketing/revenue generation, and an identity problem? A big part of that is the administrative staff in the athletic department that likes to work their 10 am to 4 pm days and are stuck in the ways of the Bud Haidet Regime. The new AD has a lot of work ahead and they need to clean house from the very start otherwise they will be undermined by their lazy staff. Koonce had the wheels in motion and was about to clean house when he was put on leave. We have a lot of great coaches, but the administrative staff needs an overhaul. I'm excited to hear who they name as the AD, and I can't wait to see that person start to make changes! It's an exciting time to be a Panther. |
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Post by PantherLou on Dec 18, 2010 13:25:32 GMT -6
I served on the search and screen committee last time. I sifted through upwards of 80 resumes, cover letters, and did over a dozen phone interviews in the process. This is not meant to bash Jimmy, it is meant to illustrate who terribly we managed the AD selection last time. It's pretty embarrassing that a Div. 1 school would have students, coaches, and department members as an integral part of the Athletic Director hiring process. There is NO way that we ever should have had an internal search and screen committee. The conflicts of interest that exist in this situation are practically infinite. This time, we allowed a 3rd party, independent firm to present a list of potential candidates. They did all the due diligence and weeded out those who simply did not have the skills necessary. It should go without saying that George Koonce never would have made the cut had the search been conducted this way last time. I'm confident that we have done it the right way this time. I'm equally confident that we totally f'ed it up last time. |
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Post by PantherNation on Dec 18, 2010 16:10:03 GMT -6
Very good explanation, Lou. I wasn't aware of the changes made to the hiring process this time around. Thanks for the clarification.
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Post by uwm97 on Dec 18, 2010 16:13:18 GMT -6
We can talk about how important fundraising is as a priority for the next AD, and that's all well and good. My #1 priority - and fundraising is a distant #2 - is the men's basketball program, as it is the flagship sport of the university and easily the most important on several levels. As such, my questions for the candidates would be very simple and to the point:
1. How do you define "success" for the men's basketball program?
2. Do you believe this current program is achieving your definition of success?
3. If not, how would you go about achieving it?
Whoever couldn't answer these questions clearly and concisely would be immediately disqualified from consideration. I would expect these questions or a variation thereof
be asked the candidates.
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Post by PantherLou on Dec 19, 2010 16:23:11 GMT -6
We can talk about how important fundraising is as a priority for the next AD, and that's all well and good. My #1 priority - and fundraising is a distant #2 - is the men's basketball program, as it is the flagship sport of the university and easily the most important on several levels. I would say that these two things are one and the same. Without a solid flagship program, fund raising will plateau quickly. Likewise, we need an increase in fund raising to be able to invest money in the men's basketball program. |
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Post by hoops on Dec 19, 2010 18:02:59 GMT -6
Well once there is a winning basketball team on the court, the fundraising will increase. It happened when BP was here and Rob's first year, it can happen again.
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Post by yuhayden on Dec 19, 2010 22:23:49 GMT -6
Well once there is a winning basketball team on the court, the fundraising will increase. It happened when BP was here and Rob's first year, it can happen again. Oh. Well. That's simple enough. Please relay that information to the team. I'll volunteer to help collect the baskets of money at the door, now that they'll know that they're actually supposed to win games. |
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Post by hoops on Dec 20, 2010 9:52:14 GMT -6
If you had a coach that was a good head coach, he would know that winning equals dollars. Given the state of the basketball teams and the department, people don't/won't give money.
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Post by PantherU on Dec 20, 2010 10:46:17 GMT -6
Then I guess we should pack up and not even hire an AD because we're a losing basketball team, so there's no one that will give money.
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Post by flipper clark on Dec 20, 2010 11:11:01 GMT -6
Then I guess we should pack up and not even hire an AD because we're a losing basketball team, so there's no one that will give money. Black Panther's sarcasm is the reality.... GK would have brought in the fundraising, sponsorship $$$$.... Schlickmann or whomever does the administration side and Milwaukee is off and running. Instead certain coaches and administration think they know what's best. Time to clean house new Athletic Director!!! |
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Post by uwm97 on Dec 20, 2010 11:22:00 GMT -6
I know that fundraising follows winning, not the other way around. The aftermath of the 2005 Sweet 16 run proved that. Nowadays? I can hear the pitch now: "Please write us a check, even though our flagship sport is mired in mediocrity. And since the head coach has a prohibitive contract, it's not economically viable to fire him anytime soon. We again thank you for your support."
Good luck .
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Post by teddyp00 on Dec 20, 2010 11:23:16 GMT -6
I dont have any insight into what mess was/is in the department but there is no proof that koonce was going to bring in money since he didnt manage to get anything in the time he was there.
I'd love to know most of the story that went down but clearly there is more fiction than fact on both sides with what went down. End of the day all this did was put the AD further behind on putting together any plan to dig out of debt and more importantly give the mens basketball team the attention and resources it needs to compete at the level the fans here want it to.
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Post by milwsport on Dec 21, 2010 8:32:33 GMT -6
Then I guess we should pack up and not even hire an AD because we're a losing basketball team, so there's no one that will give money. Black Panther's sarcasm is the reality.... GK would have brought in the fundraising, sponsorship $$$$.... Schlickmann or whomever does the administration side and Milwaukee is off and running. Instead certain coaches and administration think they know what's best. Time to clean house new Athletic Director!!! I doubt that GK would've done much of anything. You are obviously unaware of how much he ticked off the existing donation base. And do you honestly think he was put on administrative leave without a reason? It was as I and others said at the time a huge mistake to hire him. He's gone now so it's time to move on. |
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Post by freshmilwaukee on Dec 21, 2010 13:01:52 GMT -6
I dont have any insight into what mess was/is in the department but there is no proof that koonce was going to bring in money since he didnt manage to get anything in the time he was there. I'd love to know most of the story that went down but clearly there is more fiction than fact on both sides with what went down. End of the day all this did was put the AD further behind on putting together any plan to dig out of debt and more importantly give the mens basketball team the attention and resources it needs to compete at the level the fans here want it to. I know that the student association put forward the money to build a new arena... I would see that as support and resources for the flagship program. My thought process has always been to build a program with 3 or 4 very strong teams that can be depended on to sustain the department if one of the major teams was in a down year. By building everything up and contributing evenly and exploring public/private partnerships there is opportunity to grow the program and solve the financial issues we have. |
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Post by PantherU on Dec 21, 2010 13:18:00 GMT -6
Here's the problem with that, fresh. We only have one team that is a revenue sport, thus only one team that people care about. Barely anyone will be ecstatic if our women's soccer team goes and wins a national championship.
I'm convinced now, more than ever, that moving forward with one revenue, popular sport is ridiculous.
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