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Post by buppie05 on Dec 11, 2010 3:18:15 GMT -6
One argument I could see in jeters favor is that in the past few years he has recruited good guys and talented players. However, Since the talent level of the recruits has risen, its hard not to have higher expectations for the team. Coach has appeared to evolve as a recruiter and learn from previous missteps in that department, I will give him that.
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Post by tyrunner0097 on Dec 11, 2010 11:27:46 GMT -6
I'm not saying anything about canning Jeter until the Horizon season commences. If history has proven, Jeter is always a late bloomer. If the Panthers go 10-1 to close out the season, I won't be surprised.
Also, It seems that Jeter doesn't have the fieryness that he had the previous two years. Seems that some of the suits in the AD didn't like Jeter ripping off his tie and coat during crappy games. We, of course, enjoyed it, as did I. Jeter isn't lighting a fire under his players right now, and that is one step that needs to be taken.
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Post by PantherU on Dec 11, 2010 17:24:34 GMT -6
The assistants are all on one year contracts FY starting July 1. Don't blame just Bud for the contract insanity, Helen Mamarchev signed off on those one year extensions as well. Funny thing is, she was the biggest opponent to paying him 411K annually. Thank god that witch is gone. |
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Post by blackcatinorange on Dec 11, 2010 18:31:16 GMT -6
If no one else has the gumption to do it, ill start this thread. I know that we made the hire of Rob based on the assumption that he would grow as a coach and maintain a winning culture in Milwaukee in COMING YEARS. It has been several years and I don't see Rob growing with the program, I see his players giving up on him. If the Dallas Cowboys and Minnesota Vikings have taught us anything, its fire the coach, who's players have given up, before its not too late! We pay him the 2nd most of any horizon league school. This isn't fair to the other universities that can't afford to pay better coaches the same wage and respect that Jeter now receives. I don't want to lose JJ or Shaq more than the next guy, but I have a feeling Jeter couldn't be competitive with Blake Griffin playing center, and Jimmer Freddette and steph curry as the starting guards. I love the word "gumption". I'm always trying to get my second and third grade students to use more descriptive and interesting words in their writing, and I'm going to have to pull up this post in class and use it as a teachable moment. I also love threads and posts like this...."Fire Rob Jeter....NOW" (By the way, great "voice" in your writing) that want Jeter gone tonight or tomorrow and never mention a successor....a successor that really meets the needs of the UWM basketball program. I think I'll go and listen to the radio feed of the Washington Caps game....NOW!! lol I hear Steckel could be on the trading block. |
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Post by uwm80 on Dec 11, 2010 21:45:29 GMT -6
This is just a bunch of ignorant talk by people, with at best, pedestrian knowledge of the game. And no, I am not on the coaching staff, or work for the university. Players quitting on the coach? Oh please, tell me how you can tell? What, they lost by 21 in Madison? Pearl's teams regularly got their clock cleaned in Madison by 15 -20 points. The loss by 23 to CSU? Guess you have all been spoiled by how bad CSU has been in the past. When they lost by 3 to MU, did the players quit that night too? They won by 12 tonight against SD State, on the road, did the players quit tonight?
OK, if not Jeter, than who? What coach does the school have to hire to meet your inflated expectations? If the UWM job becomes open, you just assume that some top-line coach will come out woodwork? UWM is a mid-major that draws less than 3,000 people per game. The new coach would be some Div 2 guy, or some Div 1 assistant you never heard of.
Rob Jeter is a good coach. He has had one losing season in the Horizon League, and puts a competitive team on the floor. When the dust settles and the season is over; that is when you evaluate the state of the program.
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Post by panthersteve on Dec 13, 2010 10:11:54 GMT -6
Trend lines are up.. solid recruiting last couple years...not panicking but all that being said at some point we have to expect a year that we actually are a legitimate threat to win this conference. We seem to be treading water despite what the stats (20 win season last year) shows it was evident that we were not really a threat to win the HL and still are not... We seem to be settling into a pattern of mediciority with finishes every year somewhere between 3rd and severnth....we may get there yet and I think we can but it is getting old...
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Post by DunneDeal on Dec 13, 2010 10:17:38 GMT -6
Honestly this season has been crappy when it comes to schedueling. We flew out of Portland for a paycheck. We then (thanks Koonce) got locked into the Niagara game. Then come home to play a game vs. Northern Iowa and Western Mich. This team hasn't had a routine, and I can tell they have been off on nights(We all can). Im not worried.
Plus I feel the HL needs to get out of the BracketBuster and play all of the confrence games in a row and not play those two Dec games.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Dec 13, 2010 10:38:20 GMT -6
"We flew out (to?) Portland for a paycheck.
That just isn't true. The Panthers clearly agreed to play in the Athletes in Action Classic for two tough games, one of which was a true roadie and the presumed big prize, and a third against a presumed easy mark (UC Davis). The hope, obviously, was to go at least 2-1.
Scheduling at the mid-major level is intricate and sometimes takes considerable imagination. But please don't blame UWM's pedestrian record on its schedule. The Panthers survived the cross-country trip from Portland to Niagara exceedingly well and had three days to recover from the wire-to-wire battle with Northern Iowa and get ready for Western Michigan.
I agree that the BracketBuster series and resultant pool play has outlived its usefulness.
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Post by uwm97 on Dec 13, 2010 11:51:30 GMT -6
"Rob Jeter is a good coach."
Why do you think that? By what measure? It certainly can't be wins or losses. His career record is 87-81. Throw out his best and worst season and it's 56-50. His teams play Marquette to the wire and embarass themselves against Western Michigan - both in the same week. Rotations aren't set months into the season. By no empirical metric can Jeter be called a "good" coach. He's not a bad coach either. He is quite mediocre.
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Post by freshmilwaukee on Dec 13, 2010 14:25:11 GMT -6
Honestly this season has been crappy when it comes to schedueling. We flew out of Portland for a paycheck. We then (thanks Koonce) got locked into the Niagara game. Then come home to play a game vs. Northern Iowa and Western Mich. This team hasn't had a routine, and I can tell they have been off on nights(We all can). Im not worried. Plus I feel the HL needs to get out of the BracketBuster and play all of the confrence games in a row and not play those two Dec games. Jeter signed off on the return date for the Niagara BracketBuster game... |
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Post by PantherU on Dec 13, 2010 15:29:01 GMT -6
Honestly this season has been crappy when it comes to schedueling. We flew out of Portland for a paycheck. We then (thanks Koonce) got locked into the Niagara game. Then come home to play a game vs. Northern Iowa and Western Mich. This team hasn't had a routine, and I can tell they have been off on nights(We all can). Im not worried. Plus I feel the HL needs to get out of the BracketBuster and play all of the confrence games in a row and not play those two Dec games. Jeter signed off on the return date for the Niagara BracketBuster game... After someone made him swallow it. |
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Post by freshmilwaukee on Dec 14, 2010 16:39:15 GMT -6
BP I'm pretty sure it was just handed to him, he read it over and signed it. It was then taken to compliance for review then the AD's office.
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Post by DunneDeal on Dec 14, 2010 16:53:29 GMT -6
I'm pretty sure the coaches were made to take that game and they didn't choose to play that game when it was
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Post by Super King on Dec 14, 2010 16:54:29 GMT -6
Honestly this season has been crappy when it comes to schedueling. We flew out of Portland for a paycheck. We then (thanks Koonce) got locked into the Niagara game. Then come home to play a game vs. Northern Iowa and Western Mich. This team hasn't had a routine, and I can tell they have been off on nights(We all can). Im not worried. Plus I feel the HL needs to get out of the BracketBuster and play all of the confrence games in a row and not play those two Dec games. Jeter signed off on the return date for the Niagara BracketBuster game... Also we won the Niagara game by 17 |
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Post by JG Panthers on Dec 14, 2010 16:56:11 GMT -6
BP I'm pretty sure it was just handed to him, he read it over and signed it. It was then taken to compliance for review then the AD's office. Wow, you must either be a disgruntled former worker in the AD, currently work for the AD, or are George Koonce himself to know such in depth details. |
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