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Post by teddyp00 on Nov 21, 2005 22:00:04 GMT -6
I have to agree with Art on what he said. While we do need to play some major schools, but getting your ass kicked and beating no one does us no good. Ass kickings are confidence killers and cupcakes do nothing to prepare the team for league play. But trying to schedule decent mid-majors is a crap shoot in that there is no guarentee that they will be decent by year end, thus not helping us any more than playing cupcakes on the road. That said its early but right now it looks like our non conference sched. will be very solid starting with Tenn Tech next week.
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Post by JimmyLemke on Nov 23, 2005 19:20:04 GMT -6
All right, let's truly break down Tennessee Tech.
From what I see, they are a solid team. I don't expect us to lose, but I'm told they are a fantastic home team. Some obscene number in the last few years at home.
Belton Rivers, a junior, just got Newcomer of the Week in Ohio Valley Conference. He looks like a built guy, scored 22 points against Oregon State...
I see how different they are away from home. They got belted by 21 at Dayton.
I'm not so sure that home record is completely plausible...I mean, they beat up division 2 Bluefield College. However, Bluefield scored 85 points! What? Bluefield had 4 players in double figures.
What does freak me out, though, is this Derek Stribling guy. 22 points isn't surprising, but 10-10 shooting is. Scary sh*t. I laughed after I saw the 10-10 from the field, 0-2 from the line. I dunno if Bluefield just didn't pressure his shots, but 10-10 is awesome against any team.
I wanna know more, if you have anything, post it.
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Post by Pantherholic on Nov 23, 2005 23:31:57 GMT -6
Jeter said on his radio show that Tech's style is a lot like Memphis'.
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Post by JimmyLemke on Nov 24, 2005 13:35:57 GMT -6
Obviously they aren't Memphis athletic, or they'd be top-o-the-line as well.
Can anyone do a breakdown of their loss last year in the NCAA tourney? What beat them, how, and what didn't they do to stop it?
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Post by aknowsense on Nov 24, 2005 23:35:35 GMT -6
Obviously they aren't Memphis athletic, or they'd be top-o-the-line as well. Can anyone do a breakdown of their loss last year in the NCAA tourney? What beat them, how, and what didn't they do to stop it?  ? |
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Post by formerseasonticketholder on Nov 25, 2005 0:14:13 GMT -6
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Post by crazyfred on Nov 26, 2005 0:22:25 GMT -6
yeah, except the West Tobacco Road High School J.V. squad beat the Marqueers this time around. Winthrop is very good. Winners of something like 20 of 21. This is why MU fans call UWM minor league, because basketball fans (true ones) should understand how good Winthrop is. |
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Post by aknowsense on Nov 26, 2005 1:56:14 GMT -6
Wintrop is good they will beat many Big East Teams this year. I'm sure all the fans at Marquette really saw it coming, as a matter of fact looking at the Marquette boards there was many conversations of how good Winthrop is. Please.
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Post by JimmyLemke on Nov 26, 2005 3:47:43 GMT -6
Yeah, I'm with sense's sarcasm on this one. I don't understand how A) not knowing Winthrop could solidly beat Marquette makes me not a true basketball fan and B) that since Winthrop is good enough to beat Marquette, UWM is somehow minor league. I dunno, maybe you need to mix and match some reasoning Going back to sense's recent post on not knowing what the hell I was talking about,  I could have sworn Tennessee Tech had a game in the NCAA tournament. Pantherholic also said they have a playing style a lot like Memphis'. I just figured that since Memphis gameplan involved a lot of athleticism(see sudden presses, full-court man defense) that that's what Pantherholic meant by that. Honest mistake. I swear TTU was in the tourney last year. |
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Post by Pantherholic on Nov 26, 2005 10:08:31 GMT -6
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Post by dylanrocks on Nov 26, 2005 11:22:36 GMT -6
Fred:
It's you who calls yourself Crazy with a capital C. Wintrhop wasn't scheduled as a loss. Marquette knows it must win a certain number of non-conference games (probably nine; good luck with that) in order to have any chance of qualifying for the Postseason NIT. This team was perhaps scheduled as a test, but not as a loss. I'm guessing that the Pepsi Blue & Gold trophy is not a traveling trophy. In other words, does Bill Cords really expect that this treasure won't be propped up outside his office every single day he goes to work? Winthrop is the best team from a league that is considered among the absolute worst in college basketball. The struggling Horizon League is listed 10 spots higher. That's a fact.
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Post by dylanrocks on Nov 26, 2005 11:43:16 GMT -6
By the way, the team that these minor-league fans support has won "something like" 20 of its last 22 games.
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Post by JimmyLemke on Nov 26, 2005 15:24:35 GMT -6
Yeah, I was mistaken, after looking at the bracket. I didn't confuse Tenn Tech with Texas Tech, I know what Bobby Knight did in the tourney. I thought that Tennessee Tech was part of the bracket that housed North Carolina, NC State, Wisconsin, UConn, and Kansas. Obviously, I was wrong.
My bad.
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Post by crazyfred on Nov 26, 2005 16:17:16 GMT -6
By the way, the team that these minor-league fans support has won "something like" 20 of its last 22 games. I suspect Winthrop will be ranked quite highly in the Mid Major top 25 that comes out on November 28th, perhaps even above a good UWM Panthers squad. Marquette defeated Oral Roberts last night, another top 10 Mid-major. It is just not in Marquette's best interests to play UWM. Where Winthrop's league is in comparison to the Horizon League is of no value. The Horizon League is a better league than Winthrop's, so is the Big East better than the Pac Ten. Does that mean Rutgers is better than UCLA because of the conference they are in? |
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Post by JimmyLemke on Nov 27, 2005 0:44:57 GMT -6
Yeah baby.
Go Scarlet Knights!
I'm not sure about the validity of a UWM-Winthrop comparison at this level, but this much I'm sure of -
Marquette is playing at the same level as these teams. In two years, when MU will be tearing a new asshole into many Big East teams and going deep in the tournament, things will be different. MU will not have a reason to play UWM, because they will most likely wipe the floor with us. I'm not saying that's a certainty, just a vague projection at this point, given the recruiting classes. But to not play them now, when I believe UWM and Marquette are similarly equipped, just feels more like cowardess than anything else.
I know a game between the two next year is unlikely, or two years, because return contracts and home-and-home games take up non-conference schedules.
It's just too bad that Marquette and UWM likely won't play when they're at a close level of ability. I asked Todd Rosiak, Marquette's beat writer for the JS, if he thought it could happen. He said there's been basically no progress on the talks since Jeter has taken over, so we can't expect a game anytime soon.
On the collegeinsider.com Mid Major Top 25, which I consider the best mid-major ranking system out there, Oral Roberts, UWM, and Winthrop are all in the top 11. Winthrop is the lowest ranked, at 11. UWM is #5, and Oral Roberts is #6. These games that MU played have been pretty even, and considering their rankings compared to UWM's, it seems like this year would have been the greatest chance for a UWM/MU pairing. I also like that UWM is the only school besides Gonzaga to have a #1 vote.
I have no idea what the point of this post was about. I left my computer several times over the course of 2 hours
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I could have sworn Tennessee Tech had a game in the NCAA tournament. Pantherholic also said they have a playing style a lot like Memphis'. I just figured that since Memphis gameplan involved a lot of athleticism(see sudden presses, full-court man defense) that that's what Pantherholic meant by that. Honest mistake.