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Post by brewtownbrian on Mar 31, 2006 13:01:35 GMT -6
I am trying to reason with people that really dont bring anything on the table basketball wise.......you guys are ignorant about the great sport of basketball..... Coach K took over a bad-bad team on the bottom of the league and he finished on the top three three years in a row. I ll admit that UWM was a great mid major team the last couple of years. It will take another two to three years to get to that point. Coach Jeter took over a team that lost one senior in McCants and returned 7 juniors from a team that won the league and made it to the sweet sixteen. I speculate that had Pearl was still at UWM the team would be a top 20 team in the country, win the league maybe undefeated and maybe make it further in the tourney. I believe that Jeter underachieved with a loaded team. Thats why he tried to liquidate right away and get a high majors job. It didn't work out and he has his work cut out for him next year. We will know in a short 7-8 months!!!!! If that's the wacked-out theory that you want to buy into, I feel even more sorry for you than I did when you first posted. All this talk is pointless if you're just going to be like you're being. Why don't you leave it as is and post again in a year after the season is over. |
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Post by dylanrocks on Mar 31, 2006 13:04:06 GMT -6
Here's a prediction: It will not take Milwaukee another two to three years to get back to the NCAA Tournament. This program doesn't move at the same glacial pace as UW-GB.
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Post by coacheinerson on Mar 31, 2006 13:20:57 GMT -6
I am trying to reason with people that really dont bring anything on the table basketball wise.......you guys are ignorant about the great sport of basketball..... You done yet? Well hey, at least you spelled ignorant right. |
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Post by Pantherholic on Mar 31, 2006 13:33:24 GMT -6
I am trying to reason with people that really dont bring anything on the table basketball wise....... you should start by talking to this...  |
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Post by milwsport on Mar 31, 2006 14:36:43 GMT -6
When I said we will have the best guards in the league next year I didn't mean to imply that there aren't individuals who will be better than some or even all of ours. However, no one plays the full 40 minutes. From what I've heard (and seen) we'll the best group of guards in the HL. Some of the subs would've been starters on nearly any other HL team. (note the word nearly as in there are exceptions but not that many)
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Post by dylanrocks on Mar 31, 2006 14:44:48 GMT -6
I want to clarify my prediction. I believe that in two years (if not sooner) Rob will have UWM back in the dance.
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Post by halo on Mar 31, 2006 14:54:20 GMT -6
The only returning guards that were noticable last year were Smith and Hansen. Now do't get me wrong. They are good players. But they would not start for Green Bay. Not Start for Loyola. would not start for Butler. Maybe they could have some luck at UIC. No way at YSU. No way in Detroit. Smith could start at WSU. They could compete for starting at CSU.
But again there are teams that have subs better than them. Those are speculations.....
I agree that it will take a couple of years at least for UWM to be back in track for a Tourney berth
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Post by PantherLou on Mar 31, 2006 15:02:49 GMT -6
let's try to keep the personal attacks and name calling out of this "discussion".  |
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Post by gbturnbow59 on Mar 31, 2006 17:21:40 GMT -6
I'm just hoping for a competitive conference next year. And by "competitive" not 5 teams that are 8-8 with only 2 teams above .500. Being a GB fan, I'm just waiting for Tod k to finally put his money where his mouth is and produce. You guys are correct that it hasn't really happened yet with him. As far as the Panthers go, I really wouldn't be suprised to see a huge drop-off. We won't know until he ball starts bouncing in November. Right now, I'm ready to pour some cold ones and watch the Brewers hit the ball out of Miller Park ;D
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Post by ArtVandelay on Mar 31, 2006 17:36:32 GMT -6
Now this is the type of Green Bay fan I like. While we may not agree on the basketball court, we can agree to drink and enjoy the crew!
Art Vandelay
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Post by TBone on Mar 31, 2006 22:10:02 GMT -6
There sure are a lot of people with high expectations here. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm as big of a UWM fan as there is in Denver.  But I don't know squat about the people we're looking at, I know that our backcourt (best in the league? Dude, seriously! Tyrone Young looked great until he stepped onto the court too) will be inexperienced, and we've lost what 80% of our scoring? I think middle of the conference next year is a reasonable expectation and anything better than that is gravy. (Do we have any clutch scorers for next year? What happens in tight games?) But, I wouldn't be upset if we were worse than that either due to what we've lost, provided we have some promising guys on the team. I think it might be a good idea for some people to readjust their expectations for next season in a much more realistic manner. Otherwise, we may have a firerobjeter.com thread three games into the conference season. T |
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Post by coacheinerson on Mar 31, 2006 22:58:25 GMT -6
That's the way to be if you're not a UWM fan... log on with a Brewer screen name. Instant respect.  With that said, I still predict us to be right in the mix in conference next year... call me crazy. I have a lot of faith in this staff. |
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Post by reggiewheelerfor3 on Mar 31, 2006 23:11:43 GMT -6
There's almost no way of knowing how we're going to do next year. And yeah, this coming season is different than the one coming off our first NCAA tourney appearance where we lost seven seniors. We had Joah Tucker ready to step in the following year and make a HUGE impact immediately. I haven't hung around the team in years, so I have no idea what kind of an impact the redshirt guys are making in practice. But if anyone thinks someone can step in next year and pop for 15 points per game (Ricky Franklin? Anyone else?), then please enlighten me.
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Post by reggiewheelerfor3 on Mar 31, 2006 23:22:48 GMT -6
And back to the UWGB thing...I think we all agree they had a good recruting class last year. But as has been stated in this thread before, I'm one who doubts they will have as good of careers as Tigert, or Dylan Page. If you're just looking at the potential of Schactner and Tillema...they didn't dominate high school ball nearly as much as A.T. or Dylan. Yeah, yeah, I know about Randolph and their success. But A.T. averaged something like 20 points and 12 rebounds his senior year at Oshkosh West, did he not? We're talking about putting up that kinda production in one of the top two or three conferences in Wisconsin.
As for Dylan...His numbers (If I remember, about 28 ppg and 11 or 12 rpg) were dead on with Mr. Basketball Mike Wilkinson, playing on equally good teams at the Division 3 level (I think both teams finished with one or two losses).
I know there are more guys in the recent UWGB recruiting class, but it's hard to say Schactner and Tillema measure up to Tigert/Page...or throw Joah in there as well. At the same time...it's difficult to say that UWM has any recruits that stack up to Dylan and Adrian either.
I think just on reputation, Paulson is very similar to Tillema. Minus a few recruiting standouts this spring, I think Jeter's brief recruiting stint can be compared evenly with PMCK. Just my opinion. Without guys like A.T., Dylan and Joah, we're middle of the pack -- Maybe not just next year, either.
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Post by reggiewheelerfor3 on Mar 31, 2006 23:28:25 GMT -6
And before someone jumps down my throat...Yes, I know A.T. and Dylan were Jeter/Bo recruits. Time to trap magic in the bottle again.
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But I don't know squat about the people we're looking at, I know that our backcourt (best in the league? Dude, seriously! Tyrone Young looked great until he stepped onto the court too) will be inexperienced, and we've lost what 80% of our scoring? I think middle of the conference next year is a reasonable expectation and anything better than that is gravy. (Do we have any clutch scorers for next year? What happens in tight games?) But, I wouldn't be upset if we were worse than that either due to what we've lost, provided we have some promising guys on the team.
