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Post by dylanrocks on Mar 28, 2006 19:37:36 GMT -6
In four seasons, this fast-rising coaching star has taken a 10-17 team and turned it into a 15-16 team. Congratulations!
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Post by brewtownbrian on Mar 28, 2006 21:21:43 GMT -6
In four seasons, this fast-rising coaching star has taken a 10-17 team and turned it into a 15-16 team. Congratulations! And used 3,217 bottles of hair gel along the way!
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Post by fundmentals on Mar 29, 2006 10:20:56 GMT -6
And.... Jeter is going to turn UW-M into a 60 point a night team, but instead of players like Wisconsin has he's going to do it with guys that don't want to play defense.
Is all the Coach K hate because he's from Marquette?
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Post by aknowsense on Mar 29, 2006 10:29:30 GMT -6
As long as the other team scores 59 or less who cares, but I think your wrong about that.
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Post by Pantherholic on Mar 29, 2006 10:33:55 GMT -6
i'll let either UWMFreak, dylanrocks or mcdadenets50 go into why poor man's coach k is hated here. the MU connection isn't THE reason why but it sure doesn't help him.
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Post by brewtownbrian on Mar 29, 2006 10:36:02 GMT -6
And.... Jeter is going to turn UW-M into a 60 point a night team, but instead of players like Wisconsin has he's going to do it with guys that don't want to play defense. Is all the Coach K hate because he's from Marquette? Do you have a crystal ball or something? If so, I think it's broken. Not counting the Florida game, UWM scored 80, 87 and 82 points in the 3 games. They even scored 77 in the loss at GB. Why would Jeter even consider recruiting guys who don't want to play defense? Why would any coach recruit guys who don't want to play defense? I don't get your argument. As for all the "Coach K hate" (you forgot "poor man's" by the way) for me, part of the reason is the Marquette thing, but mostly I hate him because he's the coach of UWGB and I think you're proving exactly why UWM dislikes UWGB teams and fans so much...unrealistic and bitter commentary. Keep doubting Jeter if you want, but talk sh*t AFTER, not before, things have fallen apart for UWM otherwise you might end up looking as silly as your team's head coach during that loss to Farleigh Dickinson.
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Post by fundmentals on Mar 29, 2006 10:36:09 GMT -6
Alright I'm going to quit being an immature jerk for a second... I have always become a UWM fan in the tourny (because I'd rather see Wisconsin basketball succeed, then have say Butler make to the tourny), and as a GB fan I have a respect for the program Pearl has put together. I'm just trying to say GB has the best returning team in the Horizon next year (I really do feel Loyola is Schilb and not much else), and they are gonna be tough. I think the Panthers are going to be down next year (by that I mean the middle of the conference which you should all agree would be down).
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Post by brewtownbrian on Mar 29, 2006 10:41:04 GMT -6
Pearl built the program into something great, no doubt.
But Bo Ryan pulled it from the depths of despair. He did so with the help of a great staff and great recruiting. Jeter was a part of that staff and had a huge hand in recruiting the likes of Adrian Tigert and Chris Hill.
Think about it...
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Post by Pantherholic on Mar 29, 2006 10:45:53 GMT -6
as PANTHERfan previously stated, we lost 7 seniors a few years back and what happend? we won the regular season and was one game away from returning to the NCAA tourney. just b/c u lose a lot doesn't guarantee lesser results that next year. having a coach who believes Fairleigh Dickinson is better than anyone in the Horizon League causes more concern and is willing to talk-up a game to where he loses by 20 points to their rival is more cause for concern.
i'm not saying we will repeat, i'm saying it's possible. if we land the 4 recruits we're looking at, the coaches are very confident in continued success next season.
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Post by JimmyLemke on Mar 29, 2006 11:31:14 GMT -6
I believe I brought up this point, but I could be wrong:
Losing seniors isn't losing a good, mature team. Transfers can bolster a team a year after they come to the school, and JUCO kids can dominate right away (See: Ed McCants, Boo Davis, Joah Tucker). I'm not saying that transfers and JUCO's are all great, because we have firsthand knowledge of the opposite (Tyrone Young).
Ricky has the grades, he'll be in uniform next year (Not 100% positive, but I believe the people who tell me) Kaylan is going to be an instant success, and he's only going to get better. Paige Paulsen will do one hell of a job at the PF slot, and I'm sure we'll get some kind of beefy kid soon to play the Center. Sure, we may slip in the standings next year, but look at it this way: at least we won't be sleeping at the UWGB home game. I was wishing I had brought a pillow.
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Post by dylanrocks on Mar 29, 2006 11:40:51 GMT -6
Too much ground to cover here. First of all, poor man's coach k (no capitalization merited) never gave Milwaukee its due when we were rising from the ashes. Instead, he elected to say that he hopes that his program one day will match the ability of Detroit and UIC. At various times, he accomplished that. Of course, he's never had UW-GB even remotely close to our level. Second, he completely disrespected Tony in their postgame exchange three seasons ago, saying, 'You'll never be a head coach.' Why all the hate, poor man? Finally, the expectations out of Green Bay have never been in line with reality. He said projections two years ago were unfair, that it was his team that deserved to be preseason No. 1. Why? His teams had never done anything on the court. Finally ...
Records for state Division 1 coaches over their first (or only) four years at their respective schools:
Bo Ryan, 93-37 Bruce Pearl, 86-38 Tom Crean, 83-41
Tod Kowalcyzk, 59-58
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dutchpthr
Junior
ain't much if it ain't dutch
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Post by dutchpthr on Mar 29, 2006 12:38:30 GMT -6
POINT A: poor man's sucks
POINT B: see point a
POINT C: the last time GB made any noise in the conference I am willing to bet that you had no idea where the campus was even located, i know i didn't and actually still don't although i hear that the "compuond" has been described to me by many people......
POINT D: see point a
that is all............
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Post by milwsport on Mar 29, 2006 14:28:10 GMT -6
The problem I have with PMCK are:
1) His lack of respect for our program 2) His lack of respect for the league (the FDU comment) 3) The incident with Tony Jones during the game where he told him to get off the court followed by his comments to Tony after the game 4) The fact that like most of us here, I like to see Wisconsin BB teams do well (well cept for MU maybe), and this guy has had enough talent to compete for first in the HL but never finishes higher than 3rd. 5) If you really think he's such a good coach then ask yourself how it can be that in one year, Rob Jeter has almost 50% of the victories PMCK has gotten in four years. And don't just say he had a team handed to him because he built most of that team when he was here as an assistant.
BTW, yeah we MIGHT slip some next year but Loyola will still be better than UW-GB.
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Post by brewtownbrian on Mar 29, 2006 14:46:44 GMT -6
5) If you really think he's such a good coach then ask yourself how it can be that in one year, Rob Jeter has almost 50% of the victories PMCK has gotten in four years. And how many offers from major programs have been offered to PMCK? The fact of the matter is, when you're a mid-major coach, and to an extent any coach, your success is measured largely on your record (i.e. number of wins) and your post-season success (i.e. number of wins). Correct me if I'm wrong, but PMCK has had a .500 record and has only won 1 game in the Horizon League tournament, despite being a higher seed almost every year. Based on those criteria, he's just not that good of a coach.
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Post by dylanrocks on Mar 29, 2006 14:47:11 GMT -6
Correct, Loyola is a lot more than just Schilb with Kou and a healthy Walter Blount. Also, Rob has three times as many postseason victories in one year as poor man's coach k has in four. Most important, RJ has a win in the NCAAs.
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