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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Nov 20, 2022 20:42:13 GMT -6
FYI, Coach Lundy comes on pretty fast with Scott Warras on the radio for the post-game. I did not have a chance to listen. What did he say? Tried different line ups as we are looking for offense and defense. Went small when they went big. Wore them down. Yet, our offense was so out of wack. We going to do hard coaching and tip their bottle over. Can't get down that big of a hole. Howell and Edwards hit shots coming in cold. |
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Nov 20, 2022 20:51:59 GMT -6
Don't blame him. Panthers were embarrassing the first 4 minutes. 27 turnovers is embarrassing. |
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Post by kman24 on Nov 20, 2022 21:35:14 GMT -6
They seem rushed on offense. Would like to see more ball movement and kicking it out on drives. It feels like guys make up their mind they're going to the hole and end up in bad situations.
I'm excited to see us finally play some other mid-majors. I think this week will tell us a lot more about where the team is at than the first four games.
Agree with the other posters that said they want to see more of Keon and Zach.
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Post by kylesingler on Nov 21, 2022 2:02:27 GMT -6
Take away the two banked threes and our two technicals and we right in that game.
Also My friends and I had tickets in the first row behind the scorers table and Bart came up to us after the game and thanked us for coming. Great guy
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Post by ghostofdylan on Nov 21, 2022 6:11:37 GMT -6
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times I like this much better than "Now is the winter of our discontent." |
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Post by tyrunner0097 on Nov 21, 2022 11:14:36 GMT -6
The turnovers were atrocious tonight (experienced PG play was my biggest concern coming into the season), and they still need to figure out a consistent rotation, but I love watching this team play. Can’t wait to see them grow together as the season goes on. #SGD I agree. I was expecting a lot of growing pains for these guys for the first couple of months. A young squad still finding their feet. They will be much more in tune by January/February. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2022 13:31:07 GMT -6
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Post by pantherfan21 on Nov 21, 2022 16:43:51 GMT -6
IMO the reason why Angelo isn't getting a ton of minutes is because 1) he is not a great defender. 2) he's a smaller guard but not a PG, can't handle it
I'd personally like to see a starting lineup of Jamison, Pullian, BJ, JJohnson, and Rand
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Post by Cactus Panther on Nov 21, 2022 16:57:54 GMT -6
It took me a while to post this JS Online article regarding the game. Here it is for those who do not have access. It contains some additional quotes from Bart Lundy that I have not seen discussed elsewhere:
Done in by 27 turnovers - most since '97 -UWM falls at Iowa State
Todd Rosiak
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
Iowa State, the site of UW-Milwaukee's biggest upset in recent memory, wasn't so kind to the Panthers on their return trip.
The Cyclones, coached by Milwaukee native T.J. Otzelberger, used their superior size and depth to great effect on the defensive end as well as on the boards and also placed four players in double figures in beating the Panthers, 68-53, on Sunday evening.
BJ Freeman scored 11 points to lead UWM (2-2), which has yet to register a victory this season against a Division I opponent.
The last time the Panthers faced the Cyclones at Hilton Coliseum – Nov. 13, 2017 – they registered a stunning 74-56 victory in coach Pat Baldwin's second game as coach.
New coach Bart Lundy's squad fared much better than it did at Purdue on Nov. 8 (a 31-point loss) but an inability to take care of the basketball and spotty shooting (39.5% overall, 66.7% from the free-throw line) were big deciding factors.
Here are three takeaways from the loss.
Too many turnovers
The theme for this game was set in the opening minutes by the Panthers.
They gave the ball up on each of their first five possessions and had nine by the second media timeout compared to eight points as the Cyclones (3-0) opened a 10-point lead.
UWM tightened up its ball security for a spell from there, and after a pair of Jaylen Johnson free throws had pulled the Panthers to within 24-19 with 7 minutes 11 seconds remaining.
But Iowa State responded with a 10-2 run to open its lead back up and four more turnovers the rest of the way left the Panthers with 15, leading to 16 points for the Cyclones in a 37-26 game at the break.
"They took us out of everything we wanted to run," Lundy said. "We turned it over on the first two possessions and I thought it snowballed on us after that. We really panicked and tried to be too careful on every pass, and they ended up taking us out of everything.
"That's part of what they do. We knew that going in, that they're really physical in the passing lanes and on handoffs – they were a little more physical than I thought they should have gotten away with – but that's the way the game was being called."
By the time the final buzzer sounded UWM had given the ball up an astounding 27 times – third-most in program history – leading to 27 Iowa State points.
Freeman finished with six while Elijah Jamison and Markeith Browning II each had four. The Panthers assisted on eight of 17 baskets for the game.
For comparison's sake, the Panthers committed 21 turnovers in their 84-53 loss at Purdue.
The program record for turnovers is 31, set against Western Michigan on Nov. 29, 1997. The Panthers committed 28 against Sacramento State on Jan. 9, 1992.
"We're playing good defense," said Lundy. "We've just got to find some way to run some semblance of a coherent offense. If we do that, we can win some games. But we're not going to win too many games turning the ball over 27 times."
Pounded on the offensive glass
While turnovers were the first-half story for the Panthers, an inability to keep the bigger, more athletic Cyclones off the boards defined the second half.
UWM went into halftime leading in that department, 18-13, with seven coming on the offensive end.
It was a complete reversal in the final 20 minutes as Iowa State grabbed 12 of its 25 rebounds on the offensive end, an effort that led to 14 points.
The crusher came with the Panthers on an 11-0 run that pulled them to within 62-51.
After giving the ball up on the other end, they couldn't corral a Cyclones missed three. That gave Iowa State a second chance that it quickly cashed in on a Jaren Holmes putback with 2:31 remaining.
UWM managed only a pair of Zach Howell free throws the rest of the way.
"The one stretch, we were down and we went small and they went big," Lundy said. "They got a bunch in a row. But at that point, rebounding versus trying to score some points -- that's how you're playing it.
"I thought our guys fought. I knew we would be messy offensively for a while, just trying to figure things out. But we've got to be better than that, obviously."
Iowa State barely won the overall rebounding battle, 38-35, but 17 of those were of the offensive variety with the Cyclones scoring 19 second-chance points.
"I thought we got into their legs," Lundy said. "They were really tired at the end. We were just in too big a hole to come back."
Rand perfect no longer
Senior forward Ahmad Rand came into the game a perfect 14 for 14 from the field – an effort that was the byproduct of the big man's hustle and springiness around the rim.
So it was strange to see his first miss come on a three-pointer early in the game and then to see him miss another long jumper early in the second half, with not much playing time coming for Rand the rest of the way.
He finished with one point after missing all five of his shots while grabbing four rebounds and blocking a shot in 11 minutes, tied for a season low for him (Purdue).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2022 21:42:15 GMT -6
The team went through some growing pains yesterday. Now start growing in the right direction.
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