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Post by striker14 on Aug 24, 2017 17:56:14 GMT -6
I get that they are bad, that's not something I'm going to argue about. My point is that it is a game against a D1 opponent in a year where our team is likely a .500 finisher, and that might be optimistic. We need those wins to come from somewhere. Even that aside, who are we going to get that's better? Gonzaga, Villanova, Duke, Kentucky, and Kansas aren't coming here and there is very little upside for the better mid-majors in a h/h with us right now. If we aren't at square one in the rebuild we are very close to it. We need to build up to an 18-24 game winner with an RPI in the 100-150 range before we can have a chance at getting really attractive opponents.
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Aug 24, 2017 17:56:51 GMT -6
Don,t recall a lot of carping about the schedules in the past under Rob. Actually they were pretty good overall especially with the mid major challenges inherent. What I do remember is how ridiculously late each year it seemed putting them together but beyond that?  Milwaukee ended up being school 203 this year in releasing the non conference schedule. |
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Post by ghostofdylan on Aug 24, 2017 18:15:40 GMT -6
'Holic raises a fair point: we did play a few NAIA schools from 2005-15. I hate those, too.
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Post by Cactus Panther on Aug 24, 2017 18:58:27 GMT -6
Oh yes, who can forgot mighty Judson? The Panthers scheduled and played them TWICE! And as I stated yesterday, they also hosted one of the many Trinity schools! At least we do not have to google where the LaCrosse team is from.
Being #203 to get the schedule out is not bad, given we did not even have a head coach 10 weeks ago.
I goofed in my prior post when I referenced only one non-D1 game. When the schedule was officially released yesterday I was expecting multiple non-D1's to be added to the preliminary schedule that we previously knew about. I forgot about the one previously known, CSP. Incidently, the Panthers hosted CSP in 2009 and 2014, and won by 16 and 5 points, respectively.
I like what striker14 stated in his last post. Considering the current state of the program, this schedule is very appropriate for season. I get that yesterday's release of the schedule gives us something to discuss during the quiet portion of the offseason. Really though, the schedule is in line with those of past years, and like programs.
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Post by BBFran on Aug 24, 2017 19:04:36 GMT -6
State your position plainly, 'holic. Do you believe our administrator is doing a good job? If so, why? What standards do you set for our team to measure whether we are moving forward or backward since March 2015? In fact, let's put last year's disastrous results aside since that was about as far backward as we could have moved. Baldwin could be the worst coach in UWM history and he should still easily do better than that horror-show. I assume you would agree that merely losing fewer than 24 games is not really a worthwhile goal? That merely having three games at which there are, let's say, more than 2,000 actual paying fans in the stands, would not be a worthwhile goal? So what ARE the goals for this year? For next year? Should we apply the standards she claimed were dispositive? If not, then what? How will the new standards compare to Jeter's actual results?
I am happy to examine Jeter's results vis-a-vis his detractors' perceptions if you will examine our administrator's results against her detractors' perceptions. I don't know in what universe her performance -- both as regards men's basketball, our only revenue sport, AND the rest of the program -- could be considered as anything better than catastrophically bad. But maybe I'm applying the wrong standards. Let me know. It sure seems to me like our athletic program as a whole has done nothing but decline since she arrived. Before she arrived we damn near had a permanent hold on the McCafferty trophy. Not any more.
Maybe the H League should create a booby prize corollary to the McCafferty trophy for athletic programs that fall into disrepair. I know what they could name it.
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Post by Pantherholic on Aug 26, 2017 17:48:10 GMT -6
Oh I'm not saying things are fine or "the typical challenges of a MM"" but to say we're on the precipice of going back to D3 is as hyperbolic as it gets. Did Jeter ultimately receive too much blame for everything? Probably but that's also part of the job. Trust me, I want the attendance to come back (or at least improve) this season. Last season absolutely sucked for a variety of reasons and I give Lavall a lot of credit for navigating his way through that s---storm as best as he could. If things don't improve this year, both on the court & in attendance, then yes, there needs to be a lot of accountability pointed in her direction. I'd love to see donation figures in a year over year comparison to see how much personal contributions dropped.
As for how good we could have been last year, yes, if Jeter stayed last year the team would've been better by an amount that's completely unnecessary to compare. Would it be fair to say we would have been a "lock" for the NCAA tournament? No. If you need proof, who did Valpo beat in conference finals? After our exodus, they were the "lock" to win everything. I mean, how couldn't they when they had a NBA draft pick on the roster? Weird. I don't want to hear excuses about being disinterested in playing in Detroit, in a venue not meant for basketball against a subpar opponent blah, blah, blah. There's no one to blame for their choke job other than Lottich & the team. As good as we could have been, our offense showed we were one Jordan Johnson injury away from being nowhere near as good much like Valpo had with Peters' injury.
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Post by Pantherholic on Aug 26, 2017 17:56:52 GMT -6
Maybe the H League should create a booby prize corollary to the McCafferty trophy for athletic programs that fall into disrepair. I know what they could name it. Since '14, Detroit has finished in the bottom three for three of the four including two last place finishes. So, to be accurate, it could be named the "Mercy!" trophy. |
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Sept 6, 2017 11:29:34 GMT -6
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Sept 6, 2017 14:28:15 GMT -6
So, looking at the Panthers league schedule. They open with 2 home games. Then, 5 road games in a row. Then, 6 home games in a row at home. Close with 4 of the last 5 on the road.
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Sept 26, 2017 10:55:27 GMT -6
Panthers at Badgers is at 8PM on Black Friday. TV on BTN.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Sept 26, 2017 17:52:02 GMT -6
I hear that home games will be starting after 8 p.m. Why is that?
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Sept 26, 2017 20:30:50 GMT -6
I hear that home games will be starting after 8 p.m. Why is that? I would be shocked if that is the case. Unless the Panthers will end up on FS1 or ESPN which is not the case. |
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Post by ghostofdylan on Sept 27, 2017 6:49:34 GMT -6
Could be FS1 or FS2. If true, we'll NEVER get a next-day story in the Journal Sentinel!
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Sept 27, 2017 11:59:49 GMT -6
The Panthers final home game is Friday, Feb. 16th, so the Admirals must move off that date.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Sept 27, 2017 12:35:55 GMT -6
The final home game is Feb. 16. Make a note of that, everyone! Pathetic!!! I know that you guys feel the same way!! This is what our administration has wrought!!!
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