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Post by theDarkHawkReturns on Mar 23, 2016 17:59:37 GMT -6
Amen...again I say AMEN!
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Post by pantherproud on Mar 23, 2016 18:20:34 GMT -6
This is a really long winded way of saying 1. What if's are good enough. Apparently we are playing horse shoes here. 2. You really really hate Amanda Braun. We all get it, now move on. I seem to recall a game towards the end of this season where JJ scored the first 10 points of the game and was prompted yanked from the game by one Rob Jeter. Most coaches ride the hot hand but we bench him. Once again, he was average. Sure Pearl wasn't as clean, but neither are Pitino, Calipari, Coach K, etc. You can win by working the system in a LEGAL manner the same way most normal programs do, or you can lose because you are a sparkling program and can't recruit with the others. I'm not suggesting we break rules, I'm just saying the fact that we didn't have a recruiting violation buy lose too much isn't acceptable either. There is a happy medium. By the way..APR ban - that was all Jeter.
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Post by Spirit of Bruce on Mar 23, 2016 18:27:08 GMT -6
By the way... APR ban? That was all James Haarsma and the AD not having a compliance person to file paperwork with the NCAA.
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Post by parkerj on Mar 23, 2016 18:35:21 GMT -6
Thanks to Austin and congratulations on graduating. Good luck! Seconded. |
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Post by PantherU on Mar 23, 2016 19:22:06 GMT -6
This is a really long winded way of saying 1. What if's are good enough. Apparently we are playing horse shoes here. 2. You really really hate Amanda Braun. We all get it, now move on. I seem to recall a game towards the end of this season where JJ scored the first 10 points of the game and was prompted yanked from the game by one Rob Jeter. Most coaches ride the hot hand but we bench him. Once again, he was average. Sure Pearl wasn't as clean, but neither are Pitino, Calipari, Coach K, etc. You can win by working the system in a LEGAL manner the same way most normal programs do, or you can lose because you are a sparkling program and can't recruit with the others. I'm not suggesting we break rules, I'm just saying the fact that we didn't have a recruiting violation buy lose too much isn't acceptable either. There is a happy medium. By the way..APR ban - that was all Jeter. I don't hate Amanda Braun. Ask her yourself; every time we've encountered each other in person, we've gotten along fine. Things have obviously taken a dark turn the past couple months because I've become privy to things I didn't know before. I knew she canceled the foreign trip, not let redshirts and transfers go on road trips, and I knew she hadn't done anything to help the team's practice situation, but I didn't know some of the other things. I just figured she was focusing on the practice facility and canceled the foreign trip because she's inept. I didn't know it was about sabotaging the program until later. I'm on good terms with plenty of people I've had bad run-ins with in the past, or argued with as far as this program is concerned, including an athletic director I helped jettison. In fact, I've argued in Braun's favor for three years - and if you were a member of this message board, you could quote me several times saying things like "it's refreshing to have an athletic director that actually listens to what I have to say." We threw a meet-and-greet for Amanda Braun at Powers on 10th in South Milwaukee the summer after she was hired. It was a nice event. Things were looking up, even though I didn't get the athletic director I endorsed. The APR ban was not 'all Jeter,' although I would definitely say he had a big hand in it and certainly should . However - if certain people pushed the papers the right way in 2013, this would not have come to pass. Even still, Jeter most definitely served the ban and the punishment that came with it. His team played a year of exhibition games, the ban was on his record, and he was unable to make bonus money that was tied to NCAA or NIT postseason play. So no, I don't 'hate' Amanda Braun. But I love this program, and these two people couldn't have been more different. Rob Jeter tried his hardest to win and didn't achieve at the level we all wanted. Amanda Braun didn't try to help the basketball program succeed, and in several ways made decisions that hurt the program. At best you can argue that the Jeter firing is the one instance where she actually tried to help the program get better, and didn't know her other decisions would hurt the program. At worst? That I'm right, and others are right - David Nicholas et al - that Braun actively worked against the program's interests to get the coach fired. The sad thing about all this? All she needed to do was go the other way - do everything in her power to support the basketball program - and the last three years would have been better. Say it's modest, 2-4 wins. This team winning 22 or 24 games? That's enough that Rob Jeter could have moved on to a better program. Same in 2014. Hell, this team was within one or two possessions of winning 9 games they lost this season; if they had gone 5-4 in those games, the team would have been 25-8 this year...that's probably an NIT team at worst. Just as Pearl's team was one missed runner from not even getting the chance to go to the Sweet 16. We judge coaches, and million-dollar programs, by the most minuscule of margins. At a high-major program, that's fine. Because the 5th-place team is at worst going to the NIT. But in the Horizon League, most seasons you'll only have the automatic qualifier to the NCAA Tournament and maaaaybe a team in the NIT. If we're going to remain in this conference, we have to adjust our expectations for the next coach. If you want to be in the NCAA Tournament every other year, we're going to have to not just outspend the other schools, we're going to have to outspend them by a considerable amount. And we're going to have to get the university to knock down a lot of barriers for the next coach that Jeter had in front of him in the last 8-9 years of his tenure that didn't exist for Ryan, Pearl and the first three Jeter years. |
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Post by buppie05 on Mar 23, 2016 19:24:08 GMT -6
Congrats to Austin on graduating! Thanks for all you have contributed to the program.
Remember people, this is a game, a game played by very young men. Austin is now a fellow Panther alum, and anyone who wants to take parting shots at him can GFY.
I hope he changes his mind and sticks around. Perhaps a new coach can get even more out of him.
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Post by PantherU on Mar 23, 2016 19:26:38 GMT -6
Congrats to Austin on graduating! Thanks for all you have contributed to the program. Remember people, this is a game, a game played by very young men. Austin is now a fellow Panther alum, and anyone who wants to take parting shots at him can GFY. I hope he changes his mind and sticks around. Perhaps a new coach can get even more out of him. Well said. |
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