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Post by loveyouso on Feb 26, 2014 10:46:21 GMT -6
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Post by loveyouso on Feb 26, 2014 10:59:04 GMT -6
As I sat in my seat prior to the game starting last night I couldn't help but remember the Cell full to capacity back in the day. I like Jeter, I like his family, I liked talking to his Dad and Father-in-law, so part of me feels guilty wishing for a coaching change. I thought after the last GB game things were turned around, but it hurts to be let down again. I don't need a winning team, just a competitive and entertaining team. There's something about hiring a coach that has never had a head coaching position in any division. Perhaps he just wasn't ready for division 1. I will, however, continue to support all UWM sports teams. This is a winning team. Milwaukee's worse case scenario is 16-15, which the last time I looked was a winning record.
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Post by uwmfansince1997 on Feb 26, 2014 11:28:20 GMT -6
It's not the point of having a winning record.... It's where do we go from there? 17-14 next year or 8-23? You just don't know what you're getting with Jeter. I personally think he's a horrible motivator. I know him and his family as well. His Uncle actually said to me that he(Jeter), might need to move on and possibly study under another tenured head coach. Just saying.
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Post by hippy on Feb 26, 2014 12:05:29 GMT -6
I'll echo many of the same comments of others who have posted regarding this loss. I refuse to attend another game or watch another game while Rob Jeter is our coach. Last night did it for me. I have been a Panther fan for 15 years and will remain one under protest but I can't support this team under Jeter's leadership--I tried so hard like many on this forum and last night was the final straw. And everyone thought I was an idiot? Understand now?
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Post by hippy on Feb 26, 2014 12:14:22 GMT -6
Jimmy is still obviously passionate about the program. I no longer am. I'm interested, but now I'm mostly numb. Like many others, I favor the ouster of Rob Jeter (sorry, but if record doesn't matter, they would neither put up a scoreboard nor pay the head coach upwards of a half-million dollars or more). Having said that, before I give one dime toward the hiring of the next head coach, I want to know who's doing the hiring and how the hiring is being done. Please no dog-and-pony shows in front of an eight-member board of exclusively faculty members. Unlike with the hiring of the school's athletics administrator, I want people with a vested interest in the men's basketball program making the decisions. Start, for instance, with David Nicholas and David Gruber and maybe bring Harris Turer back to the fold. Haha, passionate about the program? He has on blinders! The HC isn't passionate about the program. The program is a mess. Have Jimmy hire the next coach....oh wait, He still thinks Jeter is the man. LOL!
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Post by mandorf on Feb 26, 2014 12:38:26 GMT -6
Terrible loss. The guy in front of me actually started cheering for UIC halfway through the game. I get everyone's frustration with this team. There were some really great moments this season and they are coming out with a winning record, but it seems really hollow if you have been watching these match-ups. We beat the best team in the league on the road and lost to the worst team at home? That smells like a lack of motivation and consistency which comes back to the coach. I like Jeter, as a person (at times as a coach) and I appreciated how he cleaned up the character of this program. Not sure what move Braun makes at this point since he's owed a lot of money STILL! I would make the move to grab a new coach though. Not sure I want Greg Gard, as I have watched slow methodical basketball all my life. Let's get some excitement!
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Post by loveyouso on Feb 26, 2014 12:57:19 GMT -6
It's not the point of having a winning record.... It's where do we go from there? 17-14 next year or 8-23? You just don't know what you're getting with Jeter. I personally think he's a horrible motivator. I know him and his family as well. His Uncle actually said to me that he(Jeter), might need to move on and possibly study under another tenured head coach. Just saying. If it's 17-14 Next year, fine; that is improvement. If it's 8-23, fire him then. Let's stop this ridiculous buyout talk , NOW!
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Post by longtimefan on Feb 26, 2014 12:59:20 GMT -6
Here's a case for giving Jeter more time. It's a reach but hear me out.
I see as many GB games as UWM nowadays, and maybe Jeter is like Kowalczyk.
PMCK was always a decent recruiter but his teams were reliably unpredictable at UWGB. Beat Wisconsin one week, or beat Butler when they were Top 25, and then lose by 20 the next game to a lesser program. (not totally unlike UWM) Eight years at Green Bay, and they never even made the Horizon finals never mind the NCAA or NIT. But his last two years they did win 22 games and make the CBI or CBA or whatever.
I was glad he moved on. But, I hate to say it, he was probably becoming a better coach all along. Inherited a 5-25 Toledo team and now 3 years later their like 24-2 and top 30 RPI, almost a lock for the NCAA. (I hope they don't).
I don't know what that means. Either it's not hopless if Braun has to keep Jeter. Or that only if he goes to a different program will he ever get over the hump.
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Post by Hack on Feb 26, 2014 13:00:00 GMT -6
People can talk about whatever they want. Lord knows there have been far more ridiculous posts on this board as of late.
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SRT4driver
Junior
We Are MILWAUKEE! And I'm all about accountability, unlike '5th Placer' Jeter apologists.
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Post by SRT4driver on Feb 26, 2014 14:09:53 GMT -6
"The look in their eyes, there was nothing there." I can't believe in what I heard. Coming in losing three in a row, how do you play flat? Nothing in their eyes? Where is the self respect as a D1 player and for being a man? How? By having Rob Jeter as your coach, that's how. Think about it... and I quote Rob Jeter from the postgame presser: "We've been through this before." Oh yes, yes you have. This has been occurring on a regular basis for 8 straight years now. Even the best year in that stretch, 2010-11, how did we start the year? How did we finish the year? Anyone remember how the the HL tourney championship game went vs Butler, a team we had already beaten twice that year? So now, how do you expect people to take you seriously if you suggest that it's somehow these specific players at fault? Are these somehow the same players from 4 years ago? 6 years ago? 8 years ago?? Funny, huh.
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SRT4driver
Junior
We Are MILWAUKEE! And I'm all about accountability, unlike '5th Placer' Jeter apologists.
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Post by SRT4driver on Feb 26, 2014 14:11:05 GMT -6
Btw, our RPI/SOS is now 181/228, and I don't wanna talk about it.
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Post by uwm97 on Feb 26, 2014 14:38:59 GMT -6
Here's a case for giving Jeter more time. It's a reach but hear me out. I see as many GB games as UWM nowadays, and maybe Jeter is like Kowalczyk. PMCK was always a decent recruiter but his teams were reliably unpredictable at UWGB. Beat Wisconsin one week, or beat Butler when they were Top 25, and then lose by 20 the next game to a lesser program. (not totally unlike UWM) Eight years at Green Bay, and they never even made the Horizon finals never mind the NCAA or NIT. But his last two years they did win 22 games and make the CBI or CBA or whatever. I was glad he moved on. But, I hate to say it, he was probably becoming a better coach all along. Inherited a 5-25 Toledo team and now 3 years later their like 24-2 and top 30 RPI, almost a lock for the NCAA. (I hope they don't). I don't know what that means. Either it's not hopless if Braun has to keep Jeter. Or that only if he goes to a different program will he ever get over the hump. I think as was the case with PMKC - and I think that's a good comparison - is that it was better for both parties to move on. GB is a better program now, and PMKC has obviously found a home with Toledo. An amicable severance would be the best scenario in Milwaukee's case, but I highly doubt it's even remotely possible until this contract is - finally - up.
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Post by nickpanther on Feb 26, 2014 14:45:08 GMT -6
It's not the point of having a winning record.... It's where do we go from there? 17-14 next year or 8-23? You just don't know what you're getting with Jeter. I personally think he's a horrible motivator. I know him and his family as well. His Uncle actually said to me that he(Jeter), might need to move on and possibly study under another tenured head coach. Just saying. If it's 17-14 Next year, fine; that is improvement. If it's 8-23, fire him then. Let's stop this ridiculous buyout talk , NOW! hes not earning the money in his contract. we're paying him top of the Horizon money for a team that is going to finish barely over .500 when a month ago we looked like a serious threat to finish near the top of the conference, and have a legit chance at getting to the show. amazing what suspending your best player for basically the rest of the season, for as still-unspecified reasons, will do to kill your season. Jeter may be the second-winningest coach in school history, but he has not gotten this program to the Big Dance, and for the money we are paying him, he should have gotten us there at least 2-3 times.
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Post by circle70 on Feb 26, 2014 14:57:47 GMT -6
UIC guy here.
"Worst loss of all time"? Really?
Yea, we were 0-14 in the HL and in last place by 6 games. However, in 7 of those losses, we had the lead in the last 5 minutes of the game. One game we lost on a 3-pointer at the buzzer (at Oakland). In our first game this year against UWM, we had a 13-point lead at the half. In other words, we're not a horribly bad team--we just crapped our pants in crunch time---until last night.
Why so hard on yourselves? Look back on the pre-season prognostications (UIC picked for 7th place, UWM a distant last). All things considered, you guys have had a pretty good year.
Good luck in the HL Tournament.
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Feb 26, 2014 15:17:48 GMT -6
I can't believe in what I heard. Coming in losing three in a row, how do you play flat? Nothing in their eyes? Where is the self respect as a D1 player and for being a man? How? By having Rob Jeter as your coach, that's how. Think about it... and I quote Rob Jeter from the postgame presser: "We've been through this before." Oh yes, yes you have. This has been occurring on a regular basis for 8 straight years now. Even the best year in that stretch, 2010-11, how did we start the year? How did we finish the year? Anyone remember how the the HL tourney championship game went vs Butler, a team we had already beaten twice that year? So now, how do you expect people to take you seriously if you suggest that it's somehow these specific players at fault? Are these somehow the same players from 4 years ago? 6 years ago? 8 years ago?? Funny, huh. Your playing a game, enjoy life, you won't get these years back. Signed Bill Walton.
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