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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Nov 20, 2013 6:42:19 GMT -6
I was at the game and didn't notice. I DVR'ed it, so I will check it out.
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Nov 20, 2013 7:33:04 GMT -6
Small crowd in Goolsby's, and also in the Cell'. May be Purnell's best DePaul team. Paid Attendance-3,186 It was a nice student crowd and the season-ticket numbers is still low, so your going to need a huge walk-up or pre-sale to get the numbers up. I've been saying many are sour over the move back to the KC and a 8 win season. |
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Nov 20, 2013 8:13:02 GMT -6
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Post by loveyouso on Nov 20, 2013 9:15:21 GMT -6
Small crowd in Goolsby's, and also in the Cell'. May be Purnell's best DePaul team. Paid Attendance-3,186 It was a nice student crowd and the season-ticket numbers is still low, so your going to need a huge walk-up or pre-sale to get the numbers up. I've been saying many are sour over the move back to the KC and a 8 win season. Yes, it was a good student crowd. There were a couple of older fellows that I used to see at every game, at Goolsby's. Didn't notice them yesterday. Also before the Marquette game talked to a fellow in Turner's. He was a season ticket holder, and didn't attend any games at the KC, last year. (neither did I [though I did go to the Loyola and DePaul away games.]). So, they obviously did lose some followers by moving to the KC. I think Geiger believes games should be on campus. When he was the AD at MD, he moved the yearly Baltimore Football game back to College Park. Noticed that one of their games was back in Baltimore this year. |
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Post by loveyouso on Nov 20, 2013 9:22:57 GMT -6
Does anyone agree with that "silent crowd" comment. I thought that it was vocal in the cell. |
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Post by DunneDeal on Nov 20, 2013 10:31:15 GMT -6
Well I will say it wasn't quiet around my seat...I still yell like I'm in the student section.
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Post by PantherU on Nov 20, 2013 10:32:16 GMT -6
Does anyone agree with that "silent crowd" comment. I thought that it was vocal in the cell.  YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES Our crowd - and I've been saying this for years - sits on their hands. When something good happens, it's like they're watching a performance art piece and they clap politely. The only thing that gets people out of their seats is dunks and t-shirts. It's disheartening. Case in point - if the crowd acted as it is supposed to, no one would know who I am. I've gone to many Panther games in my time here - I've got well over 100 ticket stubs from games both home and road - and my general experience is that we have one of the quietest crowds in the midwest. In the conference, we're about comparable to Green Bay, whose students are depressing and regular fans are more interested in taunting Panther fans. Detroit has about 1,000 people at their games, but half of that crowd is rabid. I can't say for the three Ohio schools. UIC has caught a lot of flack for giving away tons of tickets to inner-city schools, but those kids in the upper deck are always always always loud. Valpo has the best crowd, and this is why - they're out of their seats and cheering when the ebbs and flows of the game call for them to be out of their seats and cheering. I don't know what to blame it on - that we're a fan base not built on tradition but a mercurial mid-2000's rise followed by too few highs and too many lulls over the past seven years? Or is it technology, where you see people typing away at their cell phones far too often? At least a little bit has to do with the fact that we're in a pro sports town and the fans are used to seeing home runs and huge slam dunks on a nightly basis, so they aren't impressed with a Horizon League team. Maybe we're all just too lazy to get up out of the chair and be loud. I have a theory, and it has to do with that "mercurial rise" under Bruce. Until Bo got to campus and Bruce expanded on it, this university and community didn't have much use for the basketball program. Because of that, there are precious few traditions around the program, and the ones that they do have are pretty loosely followed, if at all, by fans at the game. Again about Valpo's fans, it's as simple as standing and clapping during the fight song and then doing that simple "V" finger gesture arm movement at the right time. And they all do it - every single one. In any case, the fact of the matter is this crowd is weak, and it takes an act of congress to get some of these people out of their chairs. I realize that it's not the entire crowd. I know there are a sizable amount of readers of this board and even those that don't who are engaged fans when they cheer the team. But 95% of the crowd is dead on their ass, and I'm very pleased that a casual fan took notice. Like anything, it starts with those who want it to change. Energy breeds energy - Get the people you're with to stand up, then other people will do so too. Then when you're back in your seats, continue to be rabid. |
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Nov 20, 2013 11:36:23 GMT -6
I thought the student section was quiet. Where are the chants?
The statement by Jimmy is correct-- When something good happens, it's like they're watching a performance art piece and they clap politely. The only thing that gets people out of their seats is dunks and t-shirts.
Maybe with 2,000 to 3,000 people in the arena,fans are scared to cheer, because they don't want others around them to be upset? We need the players and Rob Jeter to wave there arms to get the crowd going. It's like they are telling the crowd, it's ok to cheer.
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Post by DunneDeal on Nov 20, 2013 11:41:57 GMT -6
I've tried to do this, and I think we need to the program behind it, but. No one should be sitting down until the Panthers score.
I first saw it happen and look cool when we played Bradley in the Bracketbuster years ago, the PA guy said something along the lines of "Fans get on your feet, and help protect the home court" once they got the first bucket then they sat down. I think you need stuff for people to do to be involved.
This is one example, the other would be Milwaukee...Panthers chant between the Students and Crowd. Or have the cheer squad get something going that's a call and response during an early timeout, that we can get back on.
Lastly, this may be a bit late now, but with the Cell why don't we do what the Bucks and MU do and have the guys telling fans to be loud on the screen in pre-taped segments. It overall enhances the crowd experience and get those fair weather, quiet fans loud for bits and makes it enjoyable.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Nov 20, 2013 11:48:17 GMT -6
Not unhappy with the performance at all.
Perhaps the return to The Cell overshadowed the game itself.
I'm thrilled with the team's frontline, especially the combination of Tiby and Kelm.
Maybe the Panthers could start with Arians at the 2 guard and either Moore or Kelm alongside J.J. and Tiby?
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Post by PANTHERfan on Nov 20, 2013 11:52:13 GMT -6
The comments about the crowd are spot on. It was a morgue, with the exception of the last little run the Panthers made to nearly cut it to a single score lead. Had Arians drained the 3-point attempt, that place would have exploded.
The student section last night was in a word --- dead. Nice to see a reasonable turn out in numbers, but they may as well have been at the library. Hopefully some leaders emerge to get things going. This has been an ongoing discussion for the better part of a decade, so I'm not going to beat this dead horse anymore.
As far as the game goes, I can't complain about the performance given the circumstances. DePaul is much improved over last year's team (though I doubt they're much better than .500 within the Big East). UWM held strong but didn't have the legs to finish... Tiby impressed once again, as did Kelm, Arians, and McWhorter. I suspect that Jay-O is going to be a season-long issue. He's neither a 1 nor a 2. And when his shot isn't falling, he's a liability on the court. Unfortunately there's no better option sitting on the bench.
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Nov 20, 2013 11:57:37 GMT -6
Well, this goes out to everyone. Just keeping cheering and stand up for starting line-ups, don't drop F bombs and others will follow!
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Post by uwmfansince1997 on Nov 20, 2013 12:55:50 GMT -6
Does anyone agree with that "silent crowd" comment. I thought that it was vocal in the cell. YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES Our crowd - and I've been saying this for years - sits on their hands. When something good happens, it's like they're watching a performance art piece and they clap politely. The only thing that gets people out of their seats is dunks and t-shirts. It's disheartening. Case in point - if the crowd acted as it is supposed to, no one would know who I am. I've gone to many Panther games in my time here - I've got well over 100 ticket stubs from games both home and road - and my general experience is that we have one of the quietest crowds in the midwest. In the conference, we're about comparable to Green Bay, whose students are depressing and regular fans are more interested in taunting Panther fans. Detroit has about 1,000 people at their games, but half of that crowd is rabid. I can't say for the three Ohio schools. UIC has caught a lot of flack for giving away tons of tickets to inner-city schools, but those kids in the upper deck are always always always loud. Valpo has the best crowd, and this is why - they're out of their seats and cheering when the ebbs and flows of the game call for them to be out of their seats and cheering. I don't know what to blame it on - that we're a fan base not built on tradition but a mercurial mid-2000's rise followed by too few highs and too many lulls over the past seven years? Or is it technology, where you see people typing away at their cell phones far too often? At least a little bit has to do with the fact that we're in a pro sports town and the fans are used to seeing home runs and huge slam dunks on a nightly basis, so they aren't impressed with a Horizon League team. Maybe we're all just too lazy to get up out of the chair and be loud. I have a theory, and it has to do with that "mercurial rise" under Bruce. Until Bo got to campus and Bruce expanded on it, this university and community didn't have much use for the basketball program. Because of that, there are precious few traditions around the program, and the ones that they do have are pretty loosely followed, if at all, by fans at the game. Again about Valpo's fans, it's as simple as standing and clapping during the fight song and then doing that simple "V" finger gesture arm movement at the right time. And they all do it - every single one. In any case, the fact of the matter is this crowd is weak, and it takes an act of congress to get some of these people out of their chairs. I realize that it's not the entire crowd. I know there are a sizable amount of readers of this board and even those that don't who are engaged fans when they cheer the team. But 95% of the crowd is dead on their ass, and I'm very pleased that a casual fan took notice. Like anything, it starts with those who want it to change. Energy breeds energy - Get the people you're with to stand up, then other people will do so too. Then when you're back in your seats, continue to be rabid. Couldn't agree with you more. That's what I bi&%h about at the games. I feel like I'm the only one who knows what's going on at the games. It's like taking a 13 y.o. teenage girl to a basketball game and all she cares about is what's happening on her Facebook page, then what's going on around her. |
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Post by loveyouso on Nov 20, 2013 13:40:48 GMT -6
"Performance Art". Yeah, I can see that. Basketball is an absolutely beautiful sport. I get the same enjoyment out of going to a MAM exhibit as a UWM game, at either the KC or at the Cell'. As I've said I've been to at least one UWM game since '99. BUT, I've also been to at least one Marquette game a year for the same period. AND I've been a Member of the MAM also, from about my first years here. AND, why would a true BASKETBALL fan drive 100+ miles to DeKalb, when you could see Marquette and the Buckeyes here? And, I was at Loyola 12 days ago with about 10 other of you great Panther fans. If Jeter needs me to get the team fired up HE has a problem. AND I read Jeter's post game comments, in the JS. I'm also finishing up "Sum It Up". I can absolutely guarantee you that Pat Summitt would not have accepted that performance, last night. IF she was UWM's coach the Panthers would have been running wind sprints at the KC, after the game. Maybe Jeter should have hired Tyler, rather than let Teri Mitchell hire him at MU.
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Post by PantherU on Nov 20, 2013 15:31:12 GMT -6
ghostofdylan just told me a perfect example from last night over the phone that he should share with the board.
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