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Post by apaladino on Jan 20, 2013 21:27:59 GMT -6
Belling probable has more insiders than we know. To raise a stink on the air, means that someone with solid knowledge of the program had to speak to him. Love him or hate him, agree with him or not, the fact that he is talking about UWM is a good thing.
Those of you that still don't believe that UWM is a commuter school are blind.
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Post by PantherU on Jan 20, 2013 23:00:09 GMT -6
The point isn't that UWM isn't a commuter school; the point is that it's a lot less of one than it was even when I was a freshman in fall 2005. If Marquette is a residential campus of 12,000 students and Milwaukee has 15,000 students living on campus, does it really matter that a higher percentage of Marquette students live on campus than the percentage of Milwaukee students? 50% of 30,000 is still better than any percentage of 12,000, so yes, I think it's kosher to question the validity of calling UWM a commuter school.
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Post by illwauk on Jan 21, 2013 0:43:06 GMT -6
Belling probable has more insiders than we know. To raise a stink on the air, means that someone with solid knowledge of the program had to speak to him. Love him or hate him, agree with him or not, the fact that he is talking about UWM is a good thing. Those of you that still don't believe that UWM is a commuter school are blind. Considering that UWM has as many residential students as commuters nowadays, I'd have to say >you< are blind here. Why do you think neighborhood relations have been such a hot button for the past decade? Belling may have been right on a few things by happenstance, but from his comments he clearly does not understand the the situation as much as he thinks he does. Although I'll admit I have absolutely no respect for that loudmouthed bigot from upstate or the teabilly twunts who listen to his show.
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Jan 21, 2013 7:49:23 GMT -6
Wow, you really need to watch what you say and who you are calling out.
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Post by panther9193 on Jan 21, 2013 9:20:44 GMT -6
Wow, you really need to watch what you say and who you are calling out. +1
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Post by JG Panthers on Jan 21, 2013 10:05:23 GMT -6
Belling may have been right on a few things by happenstance, but from his comments he clearly does not understand the the situation as much as he thinks he does. Although I'll admit I have absolutely no respect for that loudmouthed bigot from upstate or the teabilly twunts who listen to his show. Wow... Talk about losing respect...
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Post by PantherLou on Jan 21, 2013 10:27:00 GMT -6
Seems to me that too many here are concerned about the messenger rather than the message.
And the message is mostly on point. Sure, you can quibble about the largely irrelevant details such as to whether this is a commuter school or not (and does that label matter) but the message that this is a program going the wrong direction is really incontestable.
The fact that Belling is the only person in the local media who apparently has an opinion on this speaks largely to his point as well.
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Post by uwm97 on Jan 21, 2013 11:38:56 GMT -6
Belling may have been right on a few things by happenstance, but from his comments he clearly does not understand the the situation as much as he thinks he does. Although I'll admit I have absolutely no respect for that loudmouthed bigot from upstate or the teabilly twunts who listen to his show. Shocking that post would come from a guy who lives in Riverwest.
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Post by gman2 on Jan 21, 2013 12:26:53 GMT -6
Belling is an intelligent person and I know many very smart people that listen to his show. I think he off the mark on this. While Geiger has made some mistakes, he isn't the reason the athletics program is in the tank. There is a lot of blame to go around. I don't think it is a fair assessment to say the hiring was wrong. One question to consider, are we getting the best candidate applying for the UWM AD position. Who wants to come into a situation in which: - You are in the red and continue to bleed
- Due to the financial situation of the department and current contract, you have no control over the coaching situation of the department's major sport for a few years
- The local community could care less about your major sports programs because another in town college team has a very charismatic coach who demonstrates an ability to win despite going through disruptions to the roster
- Your major sports program is buried in the local newspaper
- Your major sports program is the last news item in local TV sports reporting
- Your major sports program is not the main contractual tenant in the facility in which it plays
So assuming we are not getting the best candidates, why not bring in someone in an attempt to solidify things and make the situation more attractive to potential candidates.
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Post by uwmfansince1997 on Jan 21, 2013 15:06:54 GMT -6
Klotsche, Jeter and almost dismal booster campaign must I say more. Good luck finding an individual(AD) dying to start from dirt scratch. No direction, vision and identity(UWM/Milwaukee/Wisconsion-Milwaukee etc.), wow.
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Post by illwauk on Jan 21, 2013 15:35:16 GMT -6
Wow, you really need to watch what you say and who you are calling out. So people are offended by "teabilly twunt," but have no problem listening to a guy who uses hateful, raciailized terms like "wetback" and "thug" over the airwaves? Oh, irony. I get that most of you come from places like the suburbs or up north where it's taken for granted that a certain level of racism can be tolerated, but as someone who proudly grew up in Milwaukee on the oh-so-dreaded North Side, I've seen first hand the damage caused by Milwaukee-bashing bigots like Mark Belling. Most of whom... like Belling... aren't even from Milwaukee, but are only too proud to spew divisive language and create real life tensions as long as it gets them a paycheck. I have no problem discussing what Belling said about UWM since it's relevant to this forum, but don't expect anyone to pretend he's a respectable person with intelligent opinions when he has shown time and again that he is a hateful, despicable human being who self-consciously refuses to recognize the humanity of anyone whose not white, middle-class and in agreeance with his politics... ...and don't expect me, personally, to respect anyone who can get on board with someone like that.
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Post by PANTHERfan on Jan 21, 2013 15:50:17 GMT -6
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Post by Hack on Jan 21, 2013 16:01:25 GMT -6
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Post by gman2 on Jan 21, 2013 16:30:51 GMT -6
And completely irrelevant. It seems as though UWM going D3 has been an annual Begel's article the past several years.
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Post by uwmfutbol on Jan 21, 2013 16:32:31 GMT -6
This thread is pointless unless you focus on what was said, not who said it.
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