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Post by ghostofdylan on Feb 1, 2013 13:50:13 GMT -6
"The worst thing that can happen to a program like UWM's is that it never does anything to get excited about. The second-worst thing would be for it to get people all agog and then disappear."
-- Dale Hoffman
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
April 8, 2005
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Post by nickpanther78 on Feb 2, 2013 10:41:13 GMT -6
Jeter should be in jail for stealing and embezzlement of state funds. Guy should go into hiding...
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Post by gman2 on Feb 2, 2013 11:33:46 GMT -6
After the 2006 NCAA tourney appearance, Jeter did what the vast majority of people would have done in his situation, use it to leverage a nice salary from his employer, nothing wrong with that.
Personally, the original contract doesn't upset me. The economy was still supposedly strong and colleges were throwing money at coaches. Bud might have panicked and gave too long of a contract, and the extensions were unwarranted, but hindsight is 20-20.
After the business journal article, I don't see how anyone can discuss firing Jeter. This university simply doesn't have the funds to buyout the contract.
Due to the program's lack of big non-conference wins, many on this board have said over the years the non-conference games do not matter, it's the HL season that counts. If this is true, I say spend the remaining time on Jeter's contract playing all non-conference games on the road and generate as much revenue as possible from those games to apply to the deficit. This fan base isn't going to miss those games.
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Post by uwmfansince1997 on Feb 22, 2013 0:06:40 GMT -6
If Jeter gets an extension, when will it be released?
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Post by freshmilwaukee on Feb 22, 2013 8:26:34 GMT -6
Well 97, Jeter's deal was restructured and to accomplish that there was the one year extension. The financial compensation stayed the same from what I gather, but the automatic one year contract extensions went away (20 win season, HL Champ, etc). So hopefully there won't be any news of extensions...granted this one wasn't published in a press release either.
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Post by circle70 on Feb 22, 2013 8:35:51 GMT -6
I don't understand why mid-major programs give long-term extensions.
If your program is dying in the gutter, as my UIC was 3 years ago, you hire a coach and give him a 3-5 year contract. If he is successful, you extend it maybe 2 or 3 years, no more.
Think about it. You extend it more than that and, to paraphrase the late Woody Hayes, "3 things can happen, and 2 of them are bad". If he is very successful, he will more than likely jump on a high-major offer and be gone. The other bad thing is what you unfortunately have now. The 3rd possibility doesn't happen very often--Mark Few and Shaka Smart come to mind. Brad Stevens lifted Butler to a high-major.
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Post by Hack on Feb 22, 2013 8:43:39 GMT -6
I don't understand why mid-major programs give long-term extensions. If your program is dying in the gutter, as my UIC was 3 years ago, you hire a coach and give him a 3-5 year contract. If he is successful, you extend it maybe 2 or 3 years, no more. Problem was Bud Haidet panicked when Iowa State courted Jeter after his first year and an NCAA tournament win. Fearing he'd lose a coach for the second straight year without getting a whole lotta anything in return. Therefore, the longer contract with rollover extensions. |
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Post by The Pink Panther on Feb 22, 2013 15:18:52 GMT -6
Problem was Bud Haidet panicked when Iowa State courted Jeter after his first year and an NCAA tournament win. Fearing he'd lose a coach for the second straight year without getting a whole lotta anything in return. Therefore, the longer contract with rollover extensions. Sad part about that is Jeter was not even on the top of Iowa State's wishlist. They were totally focused on landing Greg McDermott as soon as they fired Wayne Morgan. Jeter was more interested in them than they were in him. He was nothing more than possibly a low-level backup plan at best. Even at that time, it would have cost ISU or any other school a ton of money to buy Jeter out of his UWM contract after one season. Most high majors would not invest that kind of money in a coach with only 1 year of head coaching experience on his resume. Bud was a total bufoon if that's what fueled his decision to offer Jeter the extensions. |
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Post by PantherU on Feb 22, 2013 18:04:37 GMT -6
Problem was Bud Haidet panicked when Iowa State courted Jeter after his first year and an NCAA tournament win. Fearing he'd lose a coach for the second straight year without getting a whole lotta anything in return. Therefore, the longer contract with rollover extensions. Sad part about that is Jeter was not even on the top of Iowa State's wishlist. They were totally focused on landing Greg McDermott as soon as they fired Wayne Morgan. Jeter was more interested in them than they were in him. He was nothing more than possibly a low-level backup plan at best. Even at that time, it would have cost ISU or any other school a ton of money to buy Jeter out of his UWM contract after one season. Most high majors would not invest that kind of money in a coach with only 1 year of head coaching experience on his resume. Bud was a total bufoon if that's what fueled his decision to offer Jeter the extensions. Not true. I covered the process with the UWM Post back in early 2006 and had three discussions with Jamie Pollard. ISU was very interested in Rob Jeter on Day 1; Pollard and Jeter are friends, and Jeter was the first person they looked into. When McDermott became available, they began weighing the two options. Pollard's decision to pursue McDermott over Jeter was based on head coaching experience and McD's established presence in Iowa. Jeter was the #1 guy for three days, then McD became available, and Jeter was still in it for another couple days before they began negotiations with McD. That much I know is fact. I speculate that hiring McDermott also had the benefit, in Pollard's eyes, of hurting an in-state program that by that time was a better basketball program. He ended up burned by McDermott, and look at the next decision: going with Fred Hoiberg, someone who lacked coaching experience. |
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Post by The Pink Panther on Feb 22, 2013 19:51:28 GMT -6
Not true. I covered the process with the UWM Post back in early 2006 and had three discussions with Jamie Pollard. ISU was very interested in Rob Jeter on Day 1; Pollard and Jeter are friends, and Jeter was the first person they looked into. When McDermott became available, they began weighing the two options. Pollard's decision to pursue McDermott over Jeter was based on head coaching experience and McD's established presence in Iowa. Jeter was the #1 guy for three days, then McD became available, and Jeter was still in it for another couple days before they began negotiations with McD. That much I know is fact. I speculate that hiring McDermott also had the benefit, in Pollard's eyes, of hurting an in-state program that by that time was a better basketball program. He ended up burned by McDermott, and look at the next decision: going with Fred Hoiberg, someone who lacked coaching experience. I respectfully disagree with some of the things you say. If you recheck your facts, you will see that the timeline for McDermott's hiring was much shorter than you contend. You state "Jeter was the #1 guy for three days, then McD became available, and Jeter was still in it for another couple days". The timeline was this: Wayne Morgan was fired by ISU in a meeting with ISU President Gregory Geoffroy and AD Jamie Pollard on Thursday, March 16, 2006 that occurred around 10pm that evening. Greg McDermott was hired just before midnight on Monday, March 20th. usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/big12/2006-03-21-iowa-state-mcdermott_x.htmTherefore, the total time that elapsed from Morgan's firing to McDermott's hiring was almost exactly 4 days. That 4 day time period included all the salary negotiations with McD that led up to his hiring. That being the case, how could Jeter have been the #1 guy for 3 days and still in it for another couple of days, when the entire process (including McD's salary negotiations) took only 4 days from start to finish? Also not sure what you mean when you state "then McD became available." McD was never actually "available." He was technically UNI's coach until he accepted Pollard's offer Monday night and resigned his position at UNI. I am a UWM alum but I also have very close ties to ISU. I was very close to the situation at the time. I realize that Pollard, being from Wisconsin, and Jeter are close. For that reason, Jamie may have wanted it to appear as if Jeter had a real shot. I still believe the only shot Jeter had would have been if McD had declined. Even then, the salary buyout may have may have been a "deal breaker" IMHO, There is no way this thing could have come together so quickly (4 days and 2 hours) if Jeter were ever really a serious consideration. With all due respect, I stand by my earlier statement that Jeter was at best a backup plan and that Bud had no reason to panic. |
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Post by Hack on Feb 22, 2013 20:02:11 GMT -6
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Post by The Pink Panther on Feb 22, 2013 20:09:23 GMT -6
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Post by Hack on Feb 22, 2013 20:37:54 GMT -6
Bottom line: This program is solid, intact and nowhere near sliding back to mediocrity. Simply connect the dots of all the heralded prospects that are redshirting, have signed letters of intent and have reportedly committed. I'm speechless. I have no speech. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2013 20:51:55 GMT -6
To be fair, if you look hard enough there should be a brief "Just Say No To Jeter" campaign when he was first rumored for the job. ;D
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Post by Hack on Feb 22, 2013 21:03:30 GMT -6
To be fair, if you look hard enough there should be a brief "Just Say No To Jeter" campaign when he was first rumored for the job. ;D Very true. I personally think Rob Jeter should be at or near the end of our list. Does he strike you as a leader? PANTHERLOU... I agree. Say no to Drugs and No to Jeter. -UWMfreak And then there's this: As much as I hate being considered the "little brother" to Madison, I think Jeter will take our school to new heights. His recruitment is going to be so valuable for the 2006 roster. IN JETER WE TRUST! ;D Later, UWMfreak  To be fair, we could cherry pick everyone's posts and find something that makes us go "Huh." |
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