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Post by milwsport on Dec 21, 2012 20:51:54 GMT -6
This season is a terrible one. I don't know if we just have the wrong guys or if something is going on behind the scenes that's causing this.
Like all of you, I keep hoping that the ship can be righted but I'm really having doubts that will happen.
At some point the University may decide that having Jeter remain as coach is costing us more than it would cost to bring someone else in for $200,000 or so a year. In other words, would a new coach bring in more revenue that we would pay him.
If they do decide that I think the Rob Jeter era will be over.
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Post by GB BB is Back! on Dec 27, 2012 9:44:37 GMT -6
So Milwaukee fans are finally realizing they deserve better than PMPMCK?
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Post by MD80Pilot on Jan 4, 2013 21:54:39 GMT -6
Fire Jeter
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Post by gman2 on Jan 4, 2013 22:36:56 GMT -6
If it weren't for the three one year extensions Bud gave Jeter, this would be his last year. But we have the burden of $1.2 million hanging over the program and three years remaining. A change will not make enough of a difference from a revenue perspective. I will once again pull out the Boise State example. They made a coaching change, put a better product on the floor, even moved to a better conference, but have not put anymore people in the seats. They could make the move because they profit from football, we don't have that. I just don't see how this program can make a change and eat that contract. We are stuck with what we have.
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Post by PantherU on Jan 5, 2013 9:37:27 GMT -6
So Milwaukee fans are finally realizing they deserve better than PMPMCK? Plenty of people can rag on Jeter, but I've never seen someone squander as much talent as Kowalczyk. Seriously, just counting my time in school - Schachtner, Evanochko, Tillema, Evans, Fletcher, Perine, Cotton, Berry - Kowalczyk had so many strong players and the best he did was second place and flamed out in the first game in the HL Tourney. Say what you want about Jeter, but he's hung an NIT and Horizon League Regular Season title on the wall, both of which are better accomplishments than Kowalczyk has ever had as a head coach. Kick us while we're down, but you can't change history. |
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Post by PantherU on Jan 5, 2013 9:38:44 GMT -6
If it weren't for the three one year extensions Bud gave Jeter, this would be his last year. But we have the burden of $1.2 million hanging over the program and three years remaining. A change will not make enough of a difference from a revenue perspective. I will once again pull out the Boise State example. They made a coaching change, put a better product on the floor, even moved to a better conference, but have not put anymore people in the seats. They could make the move because they profit from football, we don't have that. I just don't see how this program can make a change and eat that contract. We are stuck with what we have. Yes, but it's fair to say that he would have gotten an extension after 2010-11. You never want a coach to be a lame duck, it hurts recruiting. |
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Post by FTA1982 on Jan 5, 2013 9:43:26 GMT -6
So Milwaukee fans are finally realizing they deserve better than PMPMCK? Plenty of people can rag on Jeter, but I've never seen someone squander as much talent as Kowalczyk. ] You could say the same about Jeter squandering program momentum. Unlike Brad Stevens, Shaka Smart, Jim Larranega, Mark Few etc.... |
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Post by gman2 on Jan 5, 2013 11:05:31 GMT -6
If it weren't for the three one year extensions Bud gave Jeter, this would be his last year. But we have the burden of $1.2 million hanging over the program and three years remaining. A change will not make enough of a difference from a revenue perspective. I will once again pull out the Boise State example. They made a coaching change, put a better product on the floor, even moved to a better conference, but have not put anymore people in the seats. They could make the move because they profit from football, we don't have that. I just don't see how this program can make a change and eat that contract. We are stuck with what we have. Yes, but it's fair to say that he would have gotten an extension after 2010-11. You never want a coach to be a lame duck, it hurts recruiting. He didn't get an extension, so how can you make that claim. |
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Post by PantherU on Jan 5, 2013 12:06:32 GMT -6
Yes, but it's fair to say that he would have gotten an extension after 2010-11. You never want a coach to be a lame duck, it hurts recruiting. He didn't get an extension, so how can you make that claim. Think about it. As a fan of the program, the team slowly but surely got better every year, then won a title in 2010-11. Jeter finally seemed to put it together, only to lose to the national runner-up in the title game, played at home because we beat the national runner-up twice in the regular season. Now, think of where the new AD, Costello, would be in that situation if Bud hadn't signed Jeter's three one-year extensions and his contract was up only two years later. Is it so wrong to think that that AD, in that situation, at that point in time, wouldn't just extend the contract? Remember, we today have the gift of hindsight. Two years ago, we didn't know about last year when we starting spinning our wheels, or this year when the mud turned into quicksand and we started sinking. We only knew that patience had paid off with a Horizon League title and an NIT appearance, and it was a team built by Jeter that no previous coach had a part in - even Pearl never could say at Milwaukee that he won championships without players brought in by a previous coach. I'm not saying he wouldn't have, just pointing out that most of us choose to ignore the 2005-06 22-9 team because Jeter had mostly Pearl players (outside of Avo) and in 2011 he had a title all his own. Is it such a foreign idea to think that an AD would want to keep Jeter around in April 2011? |
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Post by PantherU on Jan 5, 2013 12:11:02 GMT -6
Plenty of people can rag on Jeter, but I've never seen someone squander as much talent as Kowalczyk. ] You could say the same about Jeter squandering program momentum. Unlike Brad Stevens, Shaka Smart, Jim Larranega, Mark Few etc.... Well, who are the good players under Jeter who didn't win a title? Ricky Franklin, James Eayrs, who else...? Who didn't win a title under Jeter who was good enough to be mentioned with that list of very good Phoenix? |
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Post by FTA1982 on Jan 5, 2013 13:21:08 GMT -6
You could say the same about Jeter squandering program momentum. Unlike Brad Stevens, Shaka Smart, Jim Larranega, Mark Few etc.... Well, who are the good players under Jeter who didn't win a title? Ricky Franklin, James Eayrs, who else...? Who didn't win a title under Jeter who was good enough to be mentioned with that list of very good Phoenix? You just made the point. Coming off a Sweet 16 and 2nd round appearance, GB had better players than Milwaukee. Jeter took all the momentum of that and flushed it down the toilet. |
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Post by gman2 on Jan 5, 2013 13:42:48 GMT -6
He didn't get an extension, so how can you make that claim. Think about it. As a fan of the program, the team slowly but surely got better every year, then won a title in 2010-11. Jeter finally seemed to put it together, only to lose to the national runner-up in the title game, played at home because we beat the national runner-up twice in the regular season. Now, think of where the new AD, Costello, would be in that situation if Bud hadn't signed Jeter's three one-year extensions and his contract was up only two years later. Is it so wrong to think that that AD, in that situation, at that point in time, wouldn't just extend the contract? Remember, we today have the gift of hindsight. Two years ago, we didn't know about last year when we starting spinning our wheels, or this year when the mud turned into quicksand and we started sinking. We only knew that patience had paid off with a Horizon League title and an NIT appearance, and it was a team built by Jeter that no previous coach had a part in - even Pearl never could say at Milwaukee that he won championships without players brought in by a previous coach. I'm not saying he wouldn't have, just pointing out that most of us choose to ignore the 2005-06 22-9 team because Jeter had mostly Pearl players (outside of Avo) and in 2011 he had a title all his own. Is it such a foreign idea to think that an AD would want to keep Jeter around in April 2011? It's not a foreign idea. He didn't get to the NCAA tourney, so it is also possible that an extension would not have been given. We cannot say what would have happened. |
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Post by ghostofdylan on Jan 10, 2013 10:30:03 GMT -6
"We had another lull of about seven minutes where we didn't score," UWM head coach Rob Jeter said. "It's disturbing because I can't quite figure out why we continue to hit those lulls."
-- Jeter, after an 84-72 loss to Bradley at the Peoria Civic Center, Feb. 23, 2008
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SRT4driver
Junior
We Are MILWAUKEE! And I'm all about accountability, unlike '5th Placer' Jeter apologists.
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Post by SRT4driver on Jan 10, 2013 14:52:04 GMT -6
That quote from 5 seasons ago, and how it still applies perfectly today, says everything we need to know about our problem. And if you know anything at all about college basketball, you know what the problem is. Until something is done about our problem, we had better get used to having this type of team.
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Post by kingsteve on Jan 10, 2013 15:09:28 GMT -6
Like I have said before....next original thought will be the first...same old pablum
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