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Post by formerseasonticketholder on Mar 29, 2012 16:58:48 GMT -6
So adding Paige would bring JG's list to nine.
Avery Smith was a Rob Jeter recruit wasn't he? Could we show Avery some love to round out a top 10? Or maybe Kevin Massiah?
I was just thinkng of your favorite player, but it's fun to think of the top ten as well.
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Post by JG Panthers on Mar 29, 2012 17:08:58 GMT -6
Yes, Avo is another guy that should be on that list. I'd slot him just ahead of Ryan Allen despite the fact that I'd rather have Ryan on my team. Avo was certainly a dynamic scorer... As another board member and I were discussing, it's troubling to see so few successfully developed players on this list.
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Post by JG Panthers on Mar 29, 2012 17:16:19 GMT -6
One man's opinion
1. Ricky Franklin 2. Anthony Hill 3. Kaylon Williams 4. Tony Meier 5. James Eayrs 6. Avery Smith 7. Ryan Allen 8. Paige Paulsen 9. Tone Boyle 10. Marcus Skinner
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Post by The Green Gull on Mar 29, 2012 17:25:09 GMT -6
In terms of pure recruits how about Tim Flowers and Kevin Johnson? Both Flowers and Johnson were top 150 recruits in the 2007 class according to ESPN.com.
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Post by Super King on Mar 29, 2012 17:38:54 GMT -6
"So few successfully developed players"
How about Ricky, who couldn't shoot worth his life when he showed up? Anthony Hill who developed from a scrawny non-factor into one of the most dominant post threats perhaps in the nation (Marquette certainly could do nothing to stop him)? Tony Meier who learned how to be a forward, then re-learned how to be a shooting guard, then re-learned how to be a forward? Ryan Haggerty, a walkon who developed into a smart defender at the least and a true X-factor at the best? Marcus Skinner? Even Shaq Boga, whose development during his Freshman year was really pretty jaw-dropping? Ryan Allen, who hasn't turned into the primary scorer we'd have hoped but became the best glue guy I can remember in Jeter's tenure. (And hey, we stopped missing dunks.)
And Avery Smith could even be considered "developed;" Jeter really forced him to mature quite a bit, and made him earn his way back onto the team for which he was at one point the primary threat.
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Post by Super King on Mar 29, 2012 17:40:41 GMT -6
As for biggest "gets," the list would include Kelm, Kaylon, Boga, Johnson #1, Johnson #2, Flowers, Gentry (Remember him? Player of the year in his playing class in Iowa), and now Aaron. One could even make a case for Leek. The staff was convinced Leek was going to be a hall-of-fame quality player.
There was a point where Jeter was (and maybe still is) legitimately capable of landing top-tier talent. It's just that a disciplinarian like Rob isn't liable to put up with (or encourage) a lot of the sh*t that players like Flowers & Johnson were likely to get away with at major programs, which is why you saw them A) not put up the numbers they were physically capable of, and B) leave. We've discussed before how Rob's discipline make his program look more out-of-control than it is; if Jeter had put up with prima donna bullsh*t, all those players wouldn't have quit on him and our team would look superficially "clean."
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Post by FTA1982 on Mar 29, 2012 18:17:04 GMT -6
One could even make a case for Leek. The staff was convinced Leek was going to be a hall-of-fame quality player. I can see it now. Clay Tucker, Von McDade, Adrian Tigert, Leek Leek Your class of 2015 UWM Hall of Famers. This makes me seriously doubt our coaching staff's ability to evaluate players.
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Post by PantherU on Mar 29, 2012 18:17:13 GMT -6
Injuries are a big problem. How many of these guys had injuries? A lot. Maybe things like the Hill and grueling practices need to be toned down to limit these problems.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Mar 29, 2012 18:46:38 GMT -6
Wait a sec.
You guys do know who recruited Leek, right?
His name started with a George and ended with a Koonce.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Mar 29, 2012 18:56:01 GMT -6
Go with JG's list.
Slide Avo and Paige between Ryan and Tone and you've got it.
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Post by Super King on Mar 29, 2012 19:08:56 GMT -6
Leek was an exceptionally fast, exceptionally long scoring machine who had bad grades. And the grades weren't his fault, really. Given his brother's rapid rise in the recruiting world after Leek graduated, I think if people had known about him a couple years sooner he would have had a bigger target on his back.
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Post by JG Panthers on Mar 29, 2012 19:13:21 GMT -6
Leek was an exceptionally fast, exceptionally long scoring machine who had bad grades. And the grades weren't his fault, really. Given his brother's rapid rise in the recruiting world after Leek graduated, I think if people had known about him a couple years sooner he would have had a bigger target on his back. This "scoring machine" averaged 8 points per game on 37% shooting as a sophomore at Tallahassee CC. Future Hall of Famer indeed...
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Post by ghostofdylan on Mar 29, 2012 19:14:04 GMT -6
I never realized the coaches had such a high opinion of Leek Leek.
In reality, I thought those perceptions were the property of a certain former administrator.
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Post by PantherU on Mar 29, 2012 19:37:57 GMT -6
One could even make a case for Leek. The staff was convinced Leek was going to be a hall-of-fame quality player. I can see it now. Clay Tucker, Von McDade, Adrian Tigert, Leek Leek Your class of 2015 UWM Hall of Famers. This makes me seriously doubt our coaching staff's ability to evaluate players. Well, you'd first have to believe that what SuperKing says about the coaching staff is true.
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Post by bulldogger on Mar 30, 2012 6:04:14 GMT -6
THIS JUST IN!......UWM is the only team to have injuries!
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