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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Feb 12, 2012 7:09:37 GMT -6
Cleveland State 20-6 (10-4)
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Milwaukee 15-12 (8-7)
Day: Tuesday
Date: Feb. 14, 2012
Location: U S Cellular Arena
Time: 7:00pm
TV: TWC Sports32
Radio: WISN (AM 1130)
Couples Day- 2 for 1 tickets
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Feb 12, 2012 15:42:40 GMT -6
3rd game in 5 days.
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Post by motowntitan on Feb 12, 2012 16:13:54 GMT -6
Will this game be on HLN?
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Post by mcdadenets50 on Feb 13, 2012 17:27:26 GMT -6
I'd like to see someone on that bench - a player, a coach, someone - get fired up for this game. This team needs some life!
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Post by formerseasonticketholder on Feb 13, 2012 18:10:48 GMT -6
It would be nice for someone to come out with a head of steam tomorrow night McDade.
Remember Tone Boyle on senior night? He would not be denied and practically carried the team to victory through sheer will with one of his better performances as a Panther IMHO.
The team is sitting at 15-12, 8-7 with four regular season games and three league games to play.
Win one of four and they are assured a winning record in the regular season. If that one win comes in league play it will make the team .500 in the conference season.
If they can manage two league wins they'll finish with winning marks for both the regular season and the conference.
As things deteriorate here late in the season those seem to be two very tangible goals the team could still achieve.
They may not seem like such lofty goals, but between mounting injuries, road games, and the siren song of Spring Break they certainly won't be gimmes so a win on Sr night would be huge.
There's a big difference between being winners and losers and this team still has a chance to end up on the right side of the ledger in that regard.
I just hope they have enough left in the tank to show that they know it tomorrow night.
Go Panthers!
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Feb 13, 2012 19:02:42 GMT -6
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Post by JG Panthers on Feb 14, 2012 9:00:22 GMT -6
You're either moving forward, or you're moving backward. In the grand scheme of things, I believe we ARE moving forward. However, at some point you have to get there. For 3 straight years, we've finished with 14 losses. This year looks to be worse. At what point will we get back to the NCAA tournament?
On paper, we were damn close last year, but, if you were so unfortunate as to witness the championship game, you would see how far away we still are.
Rob has experienced some basketball success since he got to Milwaukee, but it's safe to say we can throw out that first season. 22-9 and an NCAA tournament berth was primarily because of the WINNERS that were still on that 2005-06 team. Throw out the 9-22 season that followed due to attrition and Rob getting his own guys in there. So what are we left with? If you assume we will finish with a 18-15 record this year (losses to Cleveland St, Fairfield, and in the 2nd round of the HLT), that means Rob's average record here has been, yep, 18-15 (11-7 conference). If you're content with finishing in the top 4 of the conference every year but never getting over the hump, and I'm not, then you should have no issue with Jeter as coach. But if you're afraid of becoming the Green Bay of the 2000's with pmck as your coach (18-13, 10-7 avg. record sans his first year), then you have every right to be concerned about this program.
Coach Jeter has done a fantastic job of mentoring some of these young men, and has been a great ambassador for the program. He has been a positive role model in the community and has nary a blemish on his NCAA reputation. For that, we are blessed. But, what if we want more? What if we yearn for the basketball glory that is the NCAA tournament? What if some of us want another taste of what it feels to be taken seriously as a university, not just in this state, but nationwide?
The time is now Milwaukee Panthers. The time is now Coach Rob Jeter and staff. Either we band together and make an improbable run, or we peter out and fall flat on our face as another mediocre team with dreams we could not attain. I'm not clamoring for Coach Jeter's head, but I refuse to support a team that rivals pmck's of yesteryear. The upswing begins tonight.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Feb 14, 2012 9:50:54 GMT -6
Please don't throw out the first year entirely, fellas.
261 coaches at 90 non-BCS schools have ever engineered an NCAA tournament victory. Rob is one of them. The tournament is over 70 years old; 182 programs have never won a game.
What was my expectation for the first year? To get back to the Big Dance. That's it. It's really not easy to win games there, in spite of how easy Butler has made it look the last two years.
Even if, as legend has it, Rob bowed to the players and changed his ways after the crushing overtime loss at Butler, he should then get some credit for his willingness to change.
Will he show the same willingness next season when there are dramatic personnel changes?
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Post by JG Panthers on Feb 14, 2012 10:00:04 GMT -6
Please don't throw out the first year entirely, fellas. 261 coaches at 90 non-BCS schools have ever engineered an NCAA tournament victory. Rob is one of them. The tournament is over 70 years old; 182 programs have never won a game. What was my expectation for the first year? To get back to the Big Dance. That's it. It's really not easy to win games there, in spite of how easy Butler has made it look the last two years. Even if, as legend has it, Rob bowed to the players and changed his ways after the crushing overtime loss at Butler, he should then get some credit for his willingness to change. Will he show the same willingness next season when there are dramatic personnel changes? My point was simply that Rob's first year was so successful in large part to his players' ability. True that he was a part in that, but if we are to examine his first season as indicative of the coach he is, then hasn't he suffered a massive regression? I don't believe that to be the case, so for argument's sake, I think it's fair to say that his first and second seasons were outliers in the normal distribution. Shifting my focus to this season, my expectation is for us to go down fighting, whether it's in the semi-finals or in the NCAA tournament. I expect this team and its coaches to leave every ounce of their competitive abilities out on the floor. Hopefully injuries won't impede that path, but of course there will need to be a lot of healing. As for next year, I just can't feel good about another 18-15 season, unless it involves the NCAA tournament. I'll leave it at that. |
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Post by ghostofdylan on Feb 14, 2012 10:04:58 GMT -6
I'll just say this:
I expect the Horizon League to be a ruggedly competitive top-10 conference next season, with strong programs at Butler, Valparaiso, Youngstown State, Green Bay, Cleveland State and Detroit and emerging programs at Wright State and UIC.
It could be a rough year for a team in transition like the Panthers.
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Post by uwm97 on Feb 14, 2012 10:20:12 GMT -6
Jeter was at risk of losing that team in 2006 after the Butler loss. I have no idea what was going on behind the scenes, but the players' frustration was evident by their body language on the floor. It shouldn't take a near-mutiny to let a team play the way that made them successful. Take a look at the scores after the loss at Butler; with the exception to the home loss against UIC, they were blowing teams out and scoring in the 80's and 90's. The sad thing is everybody realized two months before he did that he wasn't coaching that group properly.
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Post by JG Panthers on Feb 14, 2012 16:15:55 GMT -6
I'll just say this: I expect the Horizon League to be a ruggedly competitive top-10 conference next season, with strong programs at Butler, Valparaiso, Youngstown State, Green Bay, Cleveland State and Detroit and emerging programs at Wright State and UIC. It could be a rough year for a team in transition like the Panthers. Totally agree. Next year will be tough, but so is every year. If we are competing for the HL title year in and year out, I'm more than happy. But eventually we need to come through and make it to the NCAA tournament. Playing style be damned. I just want to taste the tournament again... |
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Post by ghostofdylan on Feb 14, 2012 16:28:08 GMT -6
As for tonight, cut it loose and let it rip.
You can't make shots if you don't take shots.
And if you don't make shots (i.e. 18 of 51), you have no chance against Cleveland State.
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Feb 14, 2012 16:46:36 GMT -6
Panthers are a 1 point underdog.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Feb 14, 2012 16:51:49 GMT -6
Better make some shots.
Paging Tony and Paris.
Kaylon can't do it all.
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