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Post by jhart05 on Dec 2, 2011 10:39:39 GMT -6
"Is Aaron Pogue really that daunting that we need Kelm, Meier, and Haarsma out there together?"
That's not the question thou Jimmy. Are Kyle, Tony, and James not three of your best five players? If your answer to that is "no", well, then we just don't see things the same way I guess.
It's not like we're talking about three big slow "Anthony Hill-type" players. (No offense to Anthony there.)
They can all score in the paint. They can all shoot the 3. Obviously you want Tony taking the vast majority of those 3's. Tony is probably the worst defender of the three and he's at least average now.
I just can't see sitting a 6'9" Kyle Kelm in favor of any of our 6' or less guards just to match up with smaller teams. Makes no sense to me at all.
If it's not working against a team like Cleveland, you have plenty of options on the bench to make a change at the 16 minute mark.
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Post by BBFran on Dec 2, 2011 13:34:42 GMT -6
Mismatches work both ways. Wings have a way of getting bigs to foul them. Right now we drop off in a hurry after Kyle, James and Tony. Hags has played some capable minutes, but Demetrius has farther to go.
The point is, there's a risk in playing them all together for extended stretches. Have to weigh the benefits against that.
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Post by jhart05 on Dec 2, 2011 14:05:18 GMT -6
Sure they do.
But like dylan already posted.
Give me Kaylon, Ryan, Tony, James, and Kyle for 150 minutes. I think we can agree those are our best 5 players and should be getting the most playing time. They will all have to be on the court at the same time at some point.
The rest of the 50 minutes can be distributed based upon the matchups in that game and/or who has the hot shooting hand that night.
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Post by thepantherfan on Dec 2, 2011 14:52:24 GMT -6
Sure they do. But like dylan already posted. Give me Kaylon, Ryan, Tony, James, and Kyle for 150 minutes. I think we can agree those are our best 5 players and should be getting the most playing time. They will all have to be on the court at the same time at some point. The rest of the 50 minutes can be distributed based upon the matchups in that game and/or who has the hot shooting hand that night. I agree with Jhart to the extent that we at least need to give that line-up a try. I agree with Fran that there is costs and benefits to having 2 guards vs. 3, but as long as benefits out-weight the costs, I'm on board. Even if we have a mismatch between say Meier and a wing, have him guard the lessor of the wings to avoid a large exploitation. I think the offensive contributions and rebounding we'd get with James, Kyle, and Tony will likely out weigh any exploitation on defense. If we happen to play a team with 3 very quick and talented guards, then maybe we go back to a 3 guard line-up. But I'd venture that in the majority of situations the bigger more productive line-up is optimal. Just my opinion... |
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Post by thepantherfan on Dec 4, 2011 15:23:07 GMT -6
According to statsheet James Haarsma is second in the Horizon League in Offensive Rating (121.5), second in Floor Percentage (60.4, only .1 away from Kyle Marshall who leads the league), second in Rebs and RPG, and first in ORebs and ORPG.
Outstanding! Keep it up James...
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Post by ghostofdylan on Dec 15, 2011 11:59:20 GMT -6
I'm told that Ja' Rob's going to out for quite a while, so let's go with this when Kyle gets back:
PG Kaylon Williams
WG Ryan Allen
SF Tony Meier
PF James Haarsma
C Kyle Kelm
Bench
Evan Richard
Ryan Haggerty
Paris Gulley
Christian Wolf
Shaq Boga
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Post by PANTHERfan on Dec 15, 2011 12:19:57 GMT -6
I wonder if a medical redshirt is possible and, if so, worth considering? To me it would depend on the amount of conference games missed. If he's back in time to contribute to the bulk of the schedule, perhaps it's worth keeping his depth available.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Dec 15, 2011 12:25:25 GMT -6
I wonder if a medical redshirt is possible and, if so, worth considering? Yes, he's played in 18.75 percent of our projected 32 games and the upper threshold to be eligible for a redshirt is 30 percent. |
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Post by uwmplanner on Dec 15, 2011 12:43:11 GMT -6
I thought it was 20 percent but either way he is fine.
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Post by jhart05 on Dec 15, 2011 12:50:07 GMT -6
A medical redshirt is definitely something worth considering for Ja'Rob.
Would help lessen the blow when this current group of Juniors graduate. We had 7 juniors. It's now down to really 6 with Lonnie taking the redshirt.
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Post by jhart05 on Dec 15, 2011 16:44:42 GMT -6
I'm told that Ja' Rob's going to out for quite a while, so let's go with this when Kyle gets back: PG Kaylon Williams WG Ryan Allen SF Tony Meier PF James Haarsma C Kyle Kelm Bench Evan Richard Ryan Haggerty Paris Gulley Christian Wolf Shaq Boga You know I'm on board with that lineup and bench rotation. I would give those top 6 165 to 180 minutes. |
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Post by JG Panthers on Dec 21, 2011 16:25:44 GMT -6
After taking an in depth look at this year's stats (Paris is shooting 17.6% from 2's!), this is what I think the rotation should look like when/if everyone's healthy...
PG - K. Williams
WG - R Allen
F - T. Meier
F - K. Kelm
Post - J. Haarsma
6 - J. McCallum (if healthy)
7 - E. Richard
8 - R. Haggerty
Special Roles
Paris Gulley - Paris should be used as one of the first subs or even as a starter to see if he is having a good shooting day. This could be one reason to play him extended minutes. Also if you need to boost perimeter defense, Gulley should be on the floor. He shouldn't be relied on to finish near the hoop.
Demetrius Harris - Harris is very undisciplined both defensively in the post and in his shot selection, but he can give a boost as a disruptive force around the basket deterring guards from driving to the hoop.
Christian Wolf - Should be used if Haarsma is in foul trouble. Wolf offers smart, physical defense and is a decent rebounder.
Shaquille Boga - Is best when paired on the court with Kaylon, but in most situations he should only be played when Kaylon is tired or in foul trouble. Still not a reliable backup as too many possessions result in him missing a shot or turning the ball over
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