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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Apr 30, 2011 13:59:07 GMT -6
Many of you are putting your eggs with Gulley and Harris. I hope it's not the Michael Tyler kool-aid. I never saw Michael Tyler before he played for Milwaukee. I saw these two in person. I hope they play in the pro-am this summer. |
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Post by ghostofdylan on Apr 30, 2011 21:16:53 GMT -6
Any early bets on starting lineups? Here is my first attempt: BKaylon Williams Paris Gulley Tony Meier James Haarsma Demetrius Harris That's what I've got. Two seniors and three juniors. I think sometimes you just have to go with trends ... and the staff's recruiting efforts have been on a definite upswing since 2008-09. |
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Post by PantherU on May 2, 2011 1:23:32 GMT -6
I never saw Michael Tyler before he played for Milwaukee. I saw these two in person. I hope they play in the pro-am this summer. Speaking of, you're going to LOVE the rosters this summer. |
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Post by kaygee on May 2, 2011 21:19:22 GMT -6
May of you are putting your eggs with Gulley and Harris. I hope it's not the Michael Tyler kool-aid. I never saw Michael Tyler before he played for Milwaukee. I saw these two in person. Did you see them play in an open gym when they were in town for their visit, or did you actually get to see them play for their JUCO teams? Just curious. Any other observations seeing them play? |
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Post by Super King on May 3, 2011 1:12:43 GMT -6
I doubt we'll go with a three-forward lineup. And I wouldn't be shocked to see Ryan Allen starting at the 3.
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Post by ghostofdylan on May 3, 2011 6:52:59 GMT -6
Truth be told, I could see practically any combination of the following players starting for us in the coming year:
Kaylon Williams
Paris Gulley
Tony Meier
James Haarsma
Demetrius Harris
Ryan Allen
Ja' Rob McCallum
Evan Richard
In my opinion, the only two sure-fire starters are Kaylon and Tony. After that, it's a grab-bag, something open for debate between now and October.
The problem with starting Ryan at the wing is that the opponent doesn't need to defend him beyond six feet away from the basket. This severely limits your offensive spacing.
Also, different players wear "6-foot-7, 230 pounds" much differently. Demetrius wears it like Ben Wallace; James is a tough kid, but in reality measures 6-5, 220 pounds.
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Post by JG Panthers on May 3, 2011 7:19:24 GMT -6
Also, different players wear "6-foot-7, 230 pounds" much differently. Demetrius wears it like Ben Wallace; James is a tough kid, but in reality measures 6-5, 220 pounds. To god's point, with James being a tough 6'5" I could see him guarding the 3. As far as I know (and I've never actually watched him in person so FWIW) he has quicker lateral movement than Tony, so I could see him starting at the 3 but playing the 4 and even the 5 in spells if necessary. This gives our rotation so much flexibility with Ryan being the immediate backup at the 3 and Evan also backing up this position. That gives us the following basic depth chart (with obvious room for changes): PG: Kaylon Williams, Shaq Boga, Paris GulleySG: Paris Gulley, Ja'Rob McCallum, Evan Richard, Shaq BogaWF/WG: James Haarsma, Ryan Allen, Evan Richard/Lonnie BogaSF/PF: Tony Meier, Kyle Kelm, James HaarsmaC: Demetrius Harris, James Haarsma, Kyle Kelm |
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Post by panthersteve on May 3, 2011 10:38:35 GMT -6
We sure have a nice mix of players and depth now don't we?? This could be a very very interesting year!!!!!!
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Post by Super King on May 3, 2011 10:54:10 GMT -6
The problem with starting Ryan at the wing is that the opponent doesn't need to defend him beyond six feet away from the basket. This severely limits your offensive spacing. Which could be said for any given time he was on the floor last year, but we were undeniably better with him out there. |
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Post by ghostofdylan on May 3, 2011 11:08:49 GMT -6
The problem with starting Ryan at the wing is that the opponent doesn't need to defend him beyond six feet away from the basket. This severely limits your offensive spacing. Which could be said for any given time he was on the floor last year, but we were undeniably better with him out there. All I'll say in response is that I'm a big believer in starting the game with your most well-rounded lineup and that I really like the energy that players like Ryan and Ja' Rob bring off the bench. These are players with limitations in defense (McCallum) and shooting (Allen) and ball-handling in the case of both. |
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Post by Super King on May 3, 2011 16:15:48 GMT -6
But having a game-changing energy player on the floor to start the game can also have a tremendous impact. Remember Haggerty two years ago. The situation will obviously be fluid, but Ryan Allen's presence makes us better and I wouldn't be shocked to see him out there. We've got enough perimeter shooters to maintain a decent amount of spacing -- I doubt Meier will see a tremendous amount of time in the paint -- and Allen's ability to post up smaller guards can be a secret weapon.
I do agree that Harris may very well start, if not Kyle Kelm to begin the year. Winning the opening tip is more important that people realize -- it's a free extra possession -- and we did it all the time last year with Ant, a trend that we undoubtedly want to continue. Haarsma not being the tallest player in the universe, Harris and Kelm give us the best opportunity. If not even Ryan Allen, which I can't be sure I'm kidding about.
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Post by ghostofdylan on May 10, 2011 11:17:59 GMT -6
Edited to include Ron Patten, a 6-6, 215-pound small forward from Whitefish Bay High School.
Here's a look at the Panthers roster for the coming year (with perhaps an addition or two on the way):
By Class
Seniors
Ryan Allen
Tony Meier
Kaylon Williams
Juniors
Lonnie Boga
Paris Gulley
James Haarsma
Ryan Haggerty
Demetrius Harris
Ja' Rob McCallum
Christian Wolf (walk-on)
Sophomores
Kyle Kelm
Quinton Gustavson (walk-on)
Mitch Roelke (walk-on)
Freshmen
Shaquille Boga
J.J. Panoske
Evan Richard
Ron Patten (walk-on)
By position
Point guard
Kaylon Williams
Shaquille Boga
Paris Gulley
Shooting/wing guard
Paris Gulley
Ryan Allen
Ja' Rob McCallum
Evan Richard
Lonnie Boga
Mitch Roelke
Forwards
Tony Meier
James Haarsma
Kyle Kelm
Demetrius Harris
Ryan Haggerty
Ron Patten
Quinton Gustavson
J.J. Panoske
Christian Wolf
Pivot
Demetrius Harris
J.J. Panoske
Christian Wolf
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Post by ghostofdylan on May 10, 2011 18:10:21 GMT -6
A fun exercise. Consider how many players from the 2008-09 roster, which finished 11-7 in the H League and 17-14 overall, would make next season's team. See how your selections compare with the rest of the board.
Avery Smith, fifth-year senior
Charlie Swiggett, junior
Deonte Roberts, sophomore
Riley Walker, freshman
Ricky Franklin, fourth-year junior
Deion James, fifth-year senior
Zach Holt, junior
Tone Boyle, junior
Patrick Souter, freshman redshirt
James Dean, freshman
Tony Meier, freshman
Kaylan Anderson, fourth-year junior
Anthony Hill, sophomore
Jerard Ajami, sophomore redshirt
Burleigh Porte, junior
Ryan Haggerty, freshman redshirt
Jason Averkamp, junior
James Eayrs, junior
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Post by BBFran on May 10, 2011 18:13:08 GMT -6
Don't get too far ahead of yourself, dr. There are too many guys on next year's roster who have never played one minute of D1 basketball. There's much to prove before we start ranking players.
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Post by PantherNation on May 10, 2011 21:16:56 GMT -6
I've been hearing that Lonnie's foot is not getting much better and that he might be a medical redshirt this season. Anyone else have any info on this possible scenario?
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