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Post by uwmfan04 on Sept 6, 2011 22:33:11 GMT -6
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Post by PantherU on Sept 7, 2011 6:17:11 GMT -6
Huh. Of course this is Blogging the Bracket, so it's probably not complete.
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Sept 7, 2011 7:23:59 GMT -6
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Post by zvillehaze on Sept 7, 2011 7:58:49 GMT -6
I don't believe that release is correct ... based on other schedules that have been released, there are six teams in the Spartan Classic. Milwaukee will host IUPUI and play at Arkansas Little Rock. Their other two opponents should be MSU and Texas Southern ... no idea where, although I would guess they play at MSU. |
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Post by uwmfan04 on Sept 7, 2011 8:05:39 GMT -6
Huh. Of course this is Blogging the Bracket, so it's probably not complete. We were listed on here a couple of weeks ago under Spartan Invitational. Now, we are no longer listed. I'm confused. |
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Sept 7, 2011 9:12:10 GMT -6
Nov. 5- UW-Parkside (Ex)
Nov. 14- @northern Illlinois
Nov. 18 IUPUI
Nov. 20 Texas Southern
Nov. 23 @michigan State
Nov. 26 @ualr
Dec. 1 Loyola
Dec. 3 UIC
Dec. 5 @depaul
Dec. 10 @ Northern Iowa
Dec. 13 Wisconsin
Dec. 22 @ Marquette
Dec. 29 @ Valpo
Dec. 31 @ Butler
Jan. 3 @western Michigan
Jan. 7 Green Bay
Jan. 12 Wright State
Jan. 14 Detroit
Jan. 20 @ysu
Jan. 22 @csu
Jan. 26 Butler
Jan. 28 Valpo
Jan. 31 YSU
Feb. 4 @gb
Feb. 10 @detroit
Feb. 12 @wright State
Feb. 14 CSU
Feb.18 BracketBuster
Feb. 23 @uic
Feb. 25 @loyola
Two other games left open to fill, schedule to come out this week.
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Post by GoPanthers33 on Sept 7, 2011 9:57:18 GMT -6
Fill those 2 spots with D-1 opponents and I think it looks solid!
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Sept 7, 2011 10:00:59 GMT -6
Fill those 2 spots with D-1 opponents and I think it looks solid! I know they were looking at Nov. 11 and Dec. 15. I would be stunned if they are both filled with D1 schools. I would love Milwaukee to play UWSP for a non-D1 game. |
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Post by GoPanthers33 on Sept 7, 2011 15:12:40 GMT -6
Fill those 2 spots with D-1 opponents and I think it looks solid! I know they were looking at Nov. 11 and Dec. 15. I would be stunned if they are both filled with D1 schools. I would love Milwaukee to play UWSP for a non-D1 game. I know its unlikely but its what I'm hoping for. I just see no point in playing D-2 teams. They don't count for your record so it does nothing if your trying for an at-large some day. We have the schedule to pull down an at-large this year however it would require winning a lot of games were not expected to win. But beating Wisconsin, Marquette, or Michigan St. gets you that one signature win a mid-major needs. Then winning the games your supposed to win can put you squarely on the bubble. Hopefully we just win the HLT and return to the NCAA's ourselves, no questions asked. |
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Post by BBFran on Sept 7, 2011 15:49:07 GMT -6
Scheduling always seems easy to us fans. Hey, just get Duke and Kansas to come to the Cell. Problem solved!
Of course, it doesn't work that way. The truth is, there is a VERY limited universe of D1 teams available and WILLING to play home games against us. Among low major teams, many of them are no better than D2 teams competitively anyway, but they want guarantees, and that prices some of them out for us. Among mid-major and high major teams, we have to do home and homes or worse (see our deals with MU and Wisconsin). And many good teams, whether mid or high, that have aspirations of the tournament, think of us as a dangerous opponent -- we are good enough to beat good teams on a good night, especially at home, but our reputation and RPI generally are not so high as to provide a huge boost if they beat us, which of course everyone expects them to do.
Use Marquette last year as an example. If DJO doesn't go crazy from three that's a win for us. Marquette went to the Sweet 16 last year -- great year -- but there's a legitimate argument that if they had lost that game they might have been a bubble team just to make the tournament. So if you are some middle of the conference high major, you look at that and think "No thanks -- I think I'll check to see if Toledo has an opening."
That's the problem in getting good teams to come to the Cell.
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Sept 7, 2011 16:07:58 GMT -6
I know they were looking at Nov. 11 and Dec. 15. I would be stunned if they are both filled with D1 schools. I would love Milwaukee to play UWSP for a non-D1 game. I know its unlikely but its what I'm hoping for. I just see no point in playing D-2 teams. They don't count for your record so it does nothing if your trying for an at-large some day. We have the schedule to pull down an at-large this year however it would require winning a lot of games were not expected to win. But beating Wisconsin, Marquette, or Michigan St. gets you that one signature win a mid-major needs. Then winning the games your supposed to win can put you squarely on the bubble. Hopefully we just win the HLT and return to the NCAA's ourselves, no questions asked. Your correct, D2's don't count on the record. So why don't we play a UWSP than a H/H versus SIU-Edwardsville, that is in the 300's in the RPI and hurts our RPI. Milwaukee has to do a H/H or a 2 for 1 deal. They can't pay for schools to come to the Cell. |
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Post by ghostofdylan on Sept 7, 2011 17:42:54 GMT -6
Completely agree with all of what Fran said.
"I think I'll check to see if Toledo has an opening."
The problem is that Toledo won't return the call. The Rockets are too busy with Texas State-San Marcos, USC-Upstate, Victory University, Texas-Pan American, IU-Northwest, Norfolk State, Florida Gulf Coast and every other hyphenated low-major and non-D1 they can find.
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Post by GoPanthers33 on Sept 7, 2011 17:55:39 GMT -6
I wasn't implying scheduling was easy if you were talking to me Fran. I know we can't get good teams to come here and we have a hard time getting even a 2 for 1. Why would a to team play us when they can play a worse team and get just about he same credit for us since they will get an RPI boost from their own conference play. To a team like Kentucky playing an RPI 150 or 300 doesn't matter because their conference schedule will balance it out. (Although lately the SEC has sucked in Basketball) I know scheduling is extremely difficult which is why as it stands, I am happy with our schedule this year.  |
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Post by Pantherholic on Sept 7, 2011 19:03:39 GMT -6
I'm eyeing up a roadtrip to the CSU/YSU games...
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Post by BBFran on Sept 7, 2011 19:35:24 GMT -6
I wasn't implying scheduling was easy if you were talking to me Fran. I know we can't get good teams to come here and we have a hard time getting even a 2 for 1. Why would a to team play us when they can play a worse team and get just about he same credit for us since they will get an RPI boost from their own conference play. To a team like Kentucky playing an RPI 150 or 300 doesn't matter because their conference schedule will balance it out. (Although lately the SEC has sucked in Basketball) I know scheduling is extremely difficult which is why as it stands, I am happy with our schedule this year. No, I was just musing generally jerm. I'm as frustrated as anyone that we always end up with a couple crummy teams on our schedule, but I understand why it happens. Overall, as you said, we have a pretty fair schedule this year. I'm not crazy about that 1 month stretch through most of December where we have 1 home game, however. And that's against Wisconsin. Yikes. That will be a month when we'll really need senior leadership to keep the ship afloat. |
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