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Post by Super King on Nov 23, 2010 21:35:04 GMT -6
The refs were terrible. But they were terrible for both teams.
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Rawls
Junior
Everyone's Entitled To My Opinion
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Post by Rawls on Nov 23, 2010 21:45:17 GMT -6
Exactly.
Those jerseys were good (warmups were even cooler), and auctioning them off is going to bring in some $ to the AD. The retro night idea was fun. From the music to seeing Victor E. again. I'd like to see it back again regularly. If it was better scheduled, it could have seen more respectable attendance.
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Post by Super King on Nov 23, 2010 21:47:46 GMT -6
Like I said, they should have Retro Night and Alumni Night on the same day.
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Post by FTA1982 on Nov 23, 2010 21:51:49 GMT -6
Embarrassing. What a waste of 2 hours tonight.
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Nov 23, 2010 21:53:13 GMT -6
Where was the sell-out, students, team. This was bad...............
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2010 21:53:48 GMT -6
And I couldn't agree with you more Super, this was a failure on ALL fronts --- coaching, players, athletic department, etc... what an embarrassment. I am one of the BIGGEST die hard student fans and I absolutely agree with everything said here. That was one of the most embarrassing games I have ever been to. That plan to show off the team and program to new fans, students and maybe eventually moving back to campus FAILED tonight. Their should be a lot of soul searching tonight...
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Post by Super King on Nov 23, 2010 21:54:25 GMT -6
Ryan Allen should be playing 34 minutes a game, and that's that. How he's not starting at this point is beyond me. He, Williams, and Boyle might be our only defensive 3-guard set who can match Marquette's intensity.
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Post by buppie05 on Nov 23, 2010 22:05:49 GMT -6
The following panthers performed well tonight; Victor E Panther, Ryan Allen, Evan Richard during warm-ups and Tone and Ant during junk time after the game was decided.
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Post by Super King on Nov 23, 2010 22:09:17 GMT -6
I'll say this about Ant: For a time midway through the second half he took the team on his shoulders. But then the triple-teams came. And he continues to facilitate exceptionally well; he finished with 3 assists tonight after putting up 4 against UNI. He just needs to learn how to start the game. AND NOT TO LOAF.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2010 22:18:22 GMT -6
Did that... just... happen? Bizzaro land on campus at the KC tonight for sure. A 'real'* home court advantage would have helped by a few points maybe.. but not enough to win. Our shooting was just abysmal start to finish. And most of the misses weren't off by a whole lot. Just strange..
As bad as this slow-mo car wreck just was, if we shoot just 10% better, we win. Western Michigan was not that good- it was almost as if they were giving us as many opportunities as possible to get back in the game.
I think this was an anomaly. Maybe they looked past this game. Maybe they got overconfident after Northern Iowa. But you can't say this is a terrible team that will struggle to make 4th or 5th in the Horizon this season. We'll bounce back. I still think we can beat the best of the best with our talent- we just aren't consistent. This just wasn't our night. I really wish it would have been... my thoughts of a sellout for the MU game are dashed. I hope we see 8,000.
*in the students defense' no one will blindly support a team (except me, and a few dozen others here) unless they start winning- a lot- and against teams people don't think they should win against.
I know I never did (until Alabama '05). Truth be told I only went to about 10 home games in 4 years as an undergrad. And 3 of them were Horizon League Tournement games. It's not as easy as you think to convince students (or anyone else) that you are the best game in town.... unless you actually are.
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Post by flipper clark on Nov 23, 2010 22:30:40 GMT -6
Where was the sell-out, students, team. This was bad............... saw this coming at the N. Iowa game... I went to the Marquette/South Dakota game first, then the Milwaukee?Northern Iowa game later.... Talk about 2 different worlds!! they call themselves the "Klotsche Crazies" ? what a bunch of lack of respect, know nothing about what good basketball IDIOTS. This Milwaukee team is average at best... the coaching staff is below average(yet the highest paid in the HL), and the student fans(all 12 of them) think their team is actually good... what a joke! It starts at the top... and there is no leadership in that Athletic Department(literally) and no one is being held accountable. Wake up Jimmy and the boys... it is only going to get worse!!!
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Post by buppie05 on Nov 23, 2010 22:37:58 GMT -6
Enough people are going to rip the team, say how this one game could cost us a much needed on campus arena and set us back with our fans a few years, so I'll stay away from that. I would like to defend a couple of players however, who probably don't deserve all of the criticism they are getting.
To say that Kaylon is garbage on the court isn't true. The offense flows better with him, defense is more effective with him on the court and he is good at getting Ant the ball in the post. He isn't a scorer and we knew this from the beginning, the onus was on Rob to put shooters and scorers around him and that's sadly not the case.
To call Tone a chucker is absolutely correct, but its not his fault. When I see Tone take bad shots what I don't see is Rob getting upset. If Tone had another shooter around him and could be more selective with his shots, he could shoot 40-45 % from 3 over the course of a season. Just look at our guards. Who's the next best shooter? Ja'rob? We don't have anyone else we can rely on for a constant perimeter threat. We get upset when Tony shoots a lot of 3's, and rightfully so, but when Tony actually did post up on the other teams pg, we couldn't get him the ball.
Too bad one of our best shooters (if not the best) is riding pine with a redshirt. I said at the beginning of the season that I didn't know how Jeter could afford to redshirt one of our top shooters, if not the top shooter, and get enough offense. Tonight kind of answered that question. I understand that Evan might need some more time on defense, and that he will be a stud as a 5th year senior, I just hope Jeter is still around then to enjoy his play.
By far the biggest criticism of the night should go to the fans. Pathetic attendance for students and all others. I'm at the point where I would like to donate my time to show whoever is marketing these games how to do their job correctly. Obviously it doesn't help attendance when you get run out of the gym by a middle of the pack MAC program. It was a true retro night. Not retro like the many seasons we've been good, but more like the 9 win season we had 4 years ago.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Nov 23, 2010 22:40:53 GMT -6
I'll just say this (and I don't think my opinion will change after I regain my bearings):
Everyone inside this athletics program owes it to themselves and their fiercely loyal fans to spend the next 72 hours doing some serious soul-searching after tonight's abomination.
Were there even 1,200 people in the building? Talk about no energy. Wow!
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Post by uwmfutbol on Nov 23, 2010 23:10:55 GMT -6
Wow I'm glad I couldn't make it to this game tonight. If I had to drive back to GB after that performance I probably would have killed someone.
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Post by Hack on Nov 23, 2010 23:18:22 GMT -6
Embarrassing. What a waste of 2 hours tonight. 5 hours for some who drove down from the Fox Valley, thinking they were going to see spirited basketball played in front of a packed house on campus for the first time in almost 8 years. In keeping with the retro theme ... As Richard Marx said, "should've known better."
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