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Post by brewtownbrian on Nov 1, 2006 21:47:41 GMT -6
So, is this a case of just getting used to each other, or a case of "Wow, this is going to be a LOOOOONNNNNNGGGG season!"? Who knows? Prob a little of both, but let's hope they get to know each other quickly or it could be a looooooooonnnnnng (and painful) season.
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Post by uwm97 on Nov 1, 2006 21:56:35 GMT -6
The defense was pitiful - UWP was constantly getting offensive rebounds in the first half. This stat should tell everyone what they need to know about the game:
Fast break points-UWP 10,UWM 7.
This team isn't good enough offensively to not be creating turnovers and fast break opportunities. They're just not.
Here are players who I thought looked good or at least respectable:
1. Skinner. This guy looks very aggressive, especially on the offensive boards. Plays with good energy and has some pretty damn good form on his jumper. So far this is easily the best recruit so far.
2. Avo. He takes the ball to the rack and tries to create. He has toned it down a bit but he can't play much differently because that's what makes him an asset. Made his foul shots down the stretch.
3. McKay. Another guy who showed some initiative on the offensive end. On a team with not a distinguishable star, some of these guys have to play like alpha dogs and McKay has chosen to do so. He'll be a contributor this season.
That's pretty much it for who impressed me. Here's who played mediocre to poorly:
1. Franklin. I'm trying to figure out what he brings to the table, and I'm coming up empty. Couldn't shoot worth a lick. D*cked around on the perimeter and looked content being a spectator. If he doesn't start playing with some urgency I see no reason whatsoever why he should start.
2. Poulsen. He looks the part physically, but that's pretty much it. What drove me nuts is he guarded the inbound on the press and just fvcking stood there. Didn't jump up and down, didn't even raise his arms. Yet Jeter, to my complete amazement, didn't say a word. It was unbelievable. Paulsen put himself in position to score but simply couldn't put the ball in the hole. Inside, outside, it didn't matter. Has some decent post moves, but boy is he soft. He needs to watch some tape on Tigert to figure out how he physically needs to play. This guy pissed me off the whole night.
3. Bendall. There isn't a single reason why he should play in any type of competitive game. None.
4. Hansen and Hanson. They didn't play poorly, but they didn't look for their shot as much as they should have. And since they're probably the two best shooters on the team, that ain't a good thing.
In all, you see some talent on this team but there are no guys who have both the talent AND the will to lead. Avo and McKay were very aggressive which I like, but their games have obvious limitations. There simply is no go-to guy when this team needs a bucket, and that's going to be a big problem going forward. I do think that Skinner has the physical tools to fill this role, and they need to get him the ball a hell of a lot more on offense. This coaching staff has a ton of work to do, gentlemen.
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fan
Sophomore
Don't shoot so much Tone.
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Post by fan on Nov 1, 2006 22:01:55 GMT -6
I was actually going to ask "what happens if we lose?" coming into the game with the thought of it could happen.
we're young. i didn't see a second of it, but I can't say I didn't think it. I'm not shocked at all. Not many of us realistically thought we were gonna win conference. We still could, but clearly its gonna take some growing.
This is a true test of who the fans are and who just rides the bandwagon. Have faith.
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Post by bigcatlover on Nov 1, 2006 22:03:09 GMT -6
Does anyone know why Charlie Swiggett didn't play? I didn't even see him on the bench. Massiah played better than I remembered from last year, and Skinner was a bright spot. I do think that Paulsen improved as the game went on, if that helps. But we had no 3 point shooting at all, and I can't see us winning any games without it. Isn't Paulsen supposed to be a 3-point shooter? I also wondered if there will be a return to the swing offense later, since we didn't have a consistent offense at all tonight. Any inside information on that? It's too early to give up, but it will be harder than I thought it would be this year.
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mwu
Sophomore
I am U-Dub U-M
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Post by mwu on Nov 1, 2006 22:07:25 GMT -6
wow, i am eating my hat. 22 kept using the same move over and over on us and we couldnt stop the simple crossover. i thought we kept settling for outside shots instead of taaking it to the rack. we missed lots of layups. the offense was weak, we werent cutting to the hoop, alot of players just standing around. oh my god and who was it that got rejected by the rim on thata dunk attempt, was it mckay? i think our freethrow shooting is what kept us in the game. i really hope we can shake off this game and find a rhythm, otherwise its gonna be a long season
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Post by milwsport on Nov 1, 2006 22:08:00 GMT -6
According to what I heard on the radio driving home, we were 2 of 15 from beyond the arc and shot 38.2%, while Parkside shot 63%.
In fairness some of the Parkside shots were well defended but far too many weren't or weren't defended at all.
Maudlin hardly played. Paulsen looked almost adequate. Mckay shot 2 of 15. I am not sure why he was out there and the fact that RJ felt the need to give him 22 minutes is scary.
Gentry and Franklin did not look good. Skinner looked good on offense but had no urgency in his defense in the first half. He looked much better on D in the second half.
All in all, it was pretty embarassing.
Let's hope it was abberation
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Post by mfscho on Nov 1, 2006 22:09:04 GMT -6
Yikes.
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Post by bball30 on Nov 1, 2006 22:15:56 GMT -6
It's my understanding Swigget is getting some academia in order. That's what I heard through the grapevine anyway.
I feel I need to comment on McKay... this one really has me baffled, I hope he is not part of this offense next week, or it could be a long season. He played with a very "me first" attitude.
SOMEONE, and I don't care who, needs to step up and attempt to score. UWM's guards need to get the ball in the post, and players who are cutting to the post need to hold the position for longer than one second. Not to mention demand the ball while they are down there.
Box. Out.
Al Hanson looked good to me, I hope he continues to play the way he did all season. I will share more of my thoughts later.
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ArtVandelay
Freshman
I am Art Vandelay, I am an Importer/Exporter
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Post by ArtVandelay on Nov 1, 2006 22:35:44 GMT -6
I thought the game was really a tale of two halves:
The first half was beyond horrible. Our players boxed out yet refused to make an attempt with any urgency to get the ball. The weak side defense gave no help at all, and Parkside consistently used the back door pass to get to the rim. The offense was overall in bad shape. I lost count of how many times the guards refused or were too slow on making the entry pass to the post. McKay often held the ball too long allowing the post defender to get in position. Passing must be faster, and their decision making process must improve. Paulsen, Franklin, Avo, Massiah, and the Hanse(o)n brothers were all invisible during the first half. Only good thing from the half was Skinner.
Second half was a mixed bag. Something lit a fire under Paulsen's behind and he really started going for rebounds. Paulsen will be fine underneath he just needs to be stronger with put backs and actually receive the ball in the post. Since nobody else wanted to score McKay decided to repeatedly try and then try again... not a good thing. Free throw shooting was great. Transition defense sucked. I liked it when Rob had a shorter leash with the players. You mess up then you get pulled. Maybe he did tonight, but he just ran out of guys to put in... who knows? 3 point shot selection was bad, we had very few open looks (give credit to Parkside for their defense).
We really should give Parkside tons of credit. Tyrone Deacon showed why he was so damn good at Bayport and once again ruined my night like he so often did during high school. If they were given any daylight they would shoot it and drain the shot even while contested. Very good performance on their part. This is a good learning experience for the team. They showed poise in battling back, and should be humbled by how well Parkside executed. In the end this is just an exhibition game, and we move forward from here.
Art Vandelay
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Post by bball30 on Nov 1, 2006 22:49:31 GMT -6
I can also speak on Tyrone Deacon. I played my HS ball in New London, and had to repeatedly face Tyrone and his Daddy, only to lose. He was dang good then, and apparently that hasn't changed.
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Post by aknowsense on Nov 1, 2006 22:55:45 GMT -6
The only thing I can say to this is that it's an exhibition game it means nothing basically. I equate this to the US men's soccer team tying Italy in the World Cup, means nothing.
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ArtVandelay
Freshman
I am Art Vandelay, I am an Importer/Exporter
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Post by ArtVandelay on Nov 1, 2006 22:59:38 GMT -6
Anybody hear the attendance figures? The crowd and the size of the student section seemed pretty good. Hopefully this loss doesn't affect the chances of many of those people returning.
Art Vandelay
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Post by nil on Nov 1, 2006 23:06:37 GMT -6
ouch!
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Post by GVD on Nov 1, 2006 23:44:36 GMT -6
I missed the double technical, what happened?
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Post by bball30 on Nov 1, 2006 23:48:42 GMT -6
Just a little trash talking, nothing major.
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