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Post by Big D on Mar 22, 2006 12:16:01 GMT -6
so, what officially happened?....was Jeter offered the job or not? I don't know why Iowa State would spin anything. Saying that Jeter was disappointed when it's not true is not just spin, but it's damaging to Jeter. It sounds like he wanted to leave Milwaukee and is now stuck there...
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Post by PantherLou on Mar 22, 2006 12:17:56 GMT -6
We beat out a BCS school for a coach. That's no small deal. Good point. Just a few years ago, this would have been a no-brainer in favor of ISU. Now, leaving UWM is a tough decision. That's cool. ;D |
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Post by teddyp00 on Mar 22, 2006 12:19:37 GMT -6
No one knows what officially happened between Jeter and ISU besides those two. But following time lines though the papers, it does not quite add up for the ISU story.
Granted trusting the media for anything is suspect in its self.
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Post by dylanrocks on Mar 22, 2006 12:22:04 GMT -6
Bo Ryan leaving Milwaukee when he left made perfect sense. Bruce Pearl leaving Milwaukee at the time that he left was a good career move. Rob Jeter leaving Milwaukee at this time in our program's evolution made very little sense. In short, no thanks, Jamie, we're not buying your spin.
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Post by PantherLou on Mar 22, 2006 12:25:52 GMT -6
so, what officially happened?....was Jeter offered the job or not? I don't know why Iowa State would spin anything. Saying that Jeter was disappointed when it's not true is not just spin, but it's damaging to Jeter. It sounds like he wanted to leave Milwaukee and is now stuck there... Yes, but if that was the case, wouldn't ISU have been better to announce from the beginning that they were interested in both Jeter and McDermott? Then, it's a simple matter of announcing something to the effect of: "We have met with both RJ and GM, and feel that both are excellent coaches and could be very successful here at ISU. During our discussions with RJ, we agreed that it would be best for both parties if we removed his name for the list of potential candidates. We wish Rob well and are excited to announce Greg McDermott as our new head coach." This way, they don't make it look like GM was their 2nd choice. I think that ISU is VERY concerned with the public opinion that they were turned down by a coach from a "lesser" school, and they are doing their best to escape from the perception that something is seriously wrong with their program. |
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Post by Panther 106 on Mar 22, 2006 12:40:21 GMT -6
Following the timeline. GM gets the offer late Monday night. JP calls RJ at 7am Tuesday. Why would he do that if RJ had already turned the job down. Put the giant glass of Kool-aid down fellas, we didn't beat out ISU for a coach. That being said, I think are much closer to beating out a BCS school for a coach than we were for BP. We are making progress, that is for sure.  |
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damasa
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Post by damasa on Mar 22, 2006 12:40:48 GMT -6
so, what officially happened?....was Jeter offered the job or not? I don't know why Iowa State would spin anything. Saying that Jeter was disappointed when it's not true is not just spin, but it's damaging to Jeter. It sounds like he wanted to leave Milwaukee and is now stuck there... It doesn't sound anything like he wanted to leave and was stuck here. ISU expressed interested in him and he decided to see what they had to offer. Being that ISU's AD knew him at Wisconsin, it wouldn't hurt him. They mentioned hardly anything about GM being interviewed for the job on Sunday until after we found out they hired him. ISU was "pounding out" details until sometime late Monday in regards to Jeter. Probably trying to sawy Jeter to leave UWM and come aboard at ISU. In the end Jeter might have felt it was better to stay at UWM and in th end did. Jeter wants to keep what was said between himself and Jamie "private." It's the ISU spin machine which was probably agreed upon by both Jeter and himself. Jeter doesn't want to hurt his friend's image. |
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Post by Panther 106 on Mar 22, 2006 12:43:24 GMT -6
Why would Robbie agree with spin that makes him look bad??
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Post by PantherLou on Mar 22, 2006 12:47:16 GMT -6
Why would Robbie agree with spin that makes him look bad?? Exactly. So why would he publicly state that he has decided to stay? Why not something to the effect that it was a mutual decision? That's a lot more common of a response in these matters. The delay in spinning the story this way certainly makes ISU look bad, so why would they agree to allowing Rob to say he turned them down? It's weird, and I'll probably find out in a few weeks what happened, but hopefully, no one will care by then. |
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Post by damasa on Mar 22, 2006 12:52:22 GMT -6
Why would Robbie agree with spin that makes him look bad?? Nobody knows the convo they had and I don't honestly care really. But what has made Jeter "look bad" up to this point? I'm just confused that we really didn't hear anything about GM and then bam, he's hired as the new coach. In any event he's here in Milwaukee and I doubt he "wanted to get out and feels stuck here." He may have wanted to maybe get to something better but I don't think he feels stuck. |
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Post by Big D on Mar 22, 2006 12:52:26 GMT -6
Sorry guys, even if I were a UWM fan, I'd have to side with 106 here. If my friend was the AD at Iowa State, then I would hope that my friend would not publicly say that I am disappointed in not getting the job if it's untrue. Not only would that be a lie, but it woul dbe a lie which makes me look bad in front of my current team and their fans. it makes me look like I was hoping to get the hell out of here, and now I have no choice but to stay.
Even if Jeter was offered and turned it down, I wouldn't go around beating your chests like you're the king of all mid-majors now. Beating out Iowa State is not a big deal considering the problems they're having.
Where's the modesty people? UWM has gotten much too "big" for you guys to handle. I think a nice losing season will slap you back into reality...
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damasa
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Post by damasa on Mar 22, 2006 12:56:03 GMT -6
Sorry guys, even if I were a UWM fan, I'd have to side with 106 here. If my friend was the AD at Iowa State, then I would hope that my friend would not publicly say that I am disappointed in not getting the job. That makes me look bad to my current team and their fans. it makes me look like I was hoping to get the hell out of here, and now I have no choice but to stay. Even if Jeter was offered and turned it down, I wouldn't go around beating your chests like you're the king of all mid-majors now. Beating out Iowa State is not a big deal considering the problems they're having. Where's the modesty people? UWM has gotten much too "big" for you guys to handle. I think a nice losing season will slap you back into reality... And slide back down to the ranks of UIC? Nah, not interested. I didn't read anything that said JP said Jete Jete was disappointed in not getting the job but if that's the case then something could have been different for sure. Regardless, if you interview for a job without being certain to take it but you don't get offered anyway, doesn't that leave a sour taste in your mouth? That happened to me once and I was kinda upset. Probably wouldn't have taken it but I didn't get the chance to turn it down! |
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Post by Big D on Mar 22, 2006 12:58:28 GMT -6
Isn't that what we're talking about?
"Pollard met with McDermott on Sunday, decided on him over Jeter and offered McDermott the job late Monday night. Pollard called Jeter at 7 a.m. Tuesday to break the news, and said the UW-Milwaukee coach was very disappointed he wasn't offered the job."
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damasa
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Post by damasa on Mar 22, 2006 13:02:21 GMT -6
Isn't that what we're talking about? "Pollard met with McDermott on Sunday, decided on him over Jeter and offered McDermott the job late Monday night. Pollard called Jeter at 7 a.m. Tuesday to break the news, and said the UW-Milwaukee coach was very disappointed he wasn't offered the job." I didn't read that quote, what story did it come from, the JS? That puts a different perspective on it for sure. Disregard what I said earlier. Still don't think Jeter feels he's "stuck here" though. He has a decent gig going. |
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Post by Panther 106 on Mar 22, 2006 13:05:52 GMT -6
No way do I think that Jeter felt stuck in Milwaukee. He was flattered by the offer, this much we know, but in the end got beat out by a more experienced, qualified coach. His dissapointment does not come from the fact that he is going to still coach in Milwaukee, it comes from the fact that an unexpected opportunity came his way and he barely got beat out by a guy that just happened to be a "better fit". Its seems to have been a catalyst for renewed enthusiasm from Jeter, Bud, and Carlos, plus a little extra cash for Jeter.
Big D, I'd rather you not side with me publicly in the future, for the sake of my reputation.. I'll stick with Lou, even if we disagree on minor and unimportant details.
GO PANTHERS!
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